Re: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-04 Thread Wim van Dam
Yes, that sounds right. (Marshall Iliff emailed me as well and he agrees
with you.)

Where I live (Santa Barbara County, CA) we don't have groups of feral
Greater White-fronted and in the winter we have only a few of them, which
is way I did not consider GWf. It turns out, though, that in fall Santa
Barbara is fly-over county for them as they are making their way to their
wintering ground further south.

Thanks again for helping to resolve this ID.

Wim

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:48 PM David Irons  wrote:

> These sound like Greater White-fronteds, perhaps some feral Anser geese
> that are non-native. They are definitely not Cackling Geese.
>
> Dave Irons
> Beaverton, OR
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Wim van Dam  wrote:
>
> Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks
> of geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would
> expect these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too
> high, no honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling
> Goose, which would be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my
> best recording:
>
> https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably
> (hopefully) we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The
> original .WAV file is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those
> interested.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wim van Dam
> Solvang, CA (USA)
> --
> *NFC-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
> 
> *Archives:*
> The Mail Archive
> 
> Surfbirds 
> Birding.ABA.Org 
> *Please submit your observations to eBird
> !*
> --
>
> --
> *NFC-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
> 
> *Archives:*
> The Mail Archive
> 
> Surfbirds 
> Birding.ABA.Org 
> *Please submit your observations to eBird
> !*
> --
>

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--

Re: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-04 Thread Wim van Dam
Yes, that sounds right. (Marshall Iliff emailed me as well and he agrees
with you.)

Where I live (Santa Barbara County, CA) we don't have groups of feral
Greater White-fronted and in the winter we have only a few of them, which
is way I did not consider GWf. It turns out, though, that in fall Santa
Barbara is fly-over county for them as they are making their way to their
wintering ground further south.

Thanks again for helping to resolve this ID.

Wim

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:48 PM David Irons  wrote:

> These sound like Greater White-fronteds, perhaps some feral Anser geese
> that are non-native. They are definitely not Cackling Geese.
>
> Dave Irons
> Beaverton, OR
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Wim van Dam  wrote:
>
> Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks
> of geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would
> expect these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too
> high, no honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling
> Goose, which would be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my
> best recording:
>
> https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably
> (hopefully) we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The
> original .WAV file is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those
> interested.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wim van Dam
> Solvang, CA (USA)
> --
> *NFC-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
> 
> *Archives:*
> The Mail Archive
> 
> Surfbirds 
> Birding.ABA.Org 
> *Please submit your observations to eBird
> !*
> --
>
> --
> *NFC-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
> 
> *Archives:*
> The Mail Archive
> 
> Surfbirds 
> Birding.ABA.Org 
> *Please submit your observations to eBird
> !*
> --
>

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--

Re: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-03 Thread David Irons
These sound like Greater White-fronteds, perhaps some feral Anser geese that 
are non-native. They are definitely not Cackling Geese.

Dave Irons
Beaverton, OR

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Wim van Dam 
mailto:wim.van@gmail.com>> wrote:

Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of 
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect 
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no 
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose, which would 
be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably (hopefully) 
we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The original .WAV file 
is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)
--
NFC-L List Info:
Welcome and Basics
Rules and Information
Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave
Archives:
The Mail Archive
Surfbirds
Birding.ABA.Org
Please submit your observations to eBird!
--

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--


Re: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-03 Thread David Irons
These sound like Greater White-fronteds, perhaps some feral Anser geese that 
are non-native. They are definitely not Cackling Geese.

Dave Irons
Beaverton, OR

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Wim van Dam 
mailto:wim.van@gmail.com>> wrote:

Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of 
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect 
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no 
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose, which would 
be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably (hopefully) 
we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The original .WAV file 
is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)
--
NFC-L List Info:
Welcome and Basics
Rules and Information
Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave
Archives:
The Mail Archive
Surfbirds
Birding.ABA.Org
Please submit your observations to eBird!
--

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--


RE: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-02 Thread Gary Allport
Hi

They sound more like white-fronts to me

Gary

From: bounce-2809245-56897...@mm.list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Wim van Dam
Sent: 03 October 2019 06:54
To: Night Flight Call Discussions 
Subject: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of 
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect 
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no 
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose, which would 
be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506<https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506>

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably (hopefully) 
we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The original .WAV file 
is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)
--
NFC-L List Info:
Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME>
Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES>
Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm>
Archives:
The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html>
Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L>
Birding.ABA.Org<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC>
Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!
--

Please consider biodiversity and the environment before deciding whether to 
print this message and any attachments.
The content of this e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or 
entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received 
this communication in error, be aware that forwarding it, copying it, or in any 
way disclosing its content to any other person, is 
strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please 
notify the author by replying to this e-mail immediately.
The BirdLife International Partnership is a Partnership of over 110 
conservation organizations around the world. BirdLife International 
the Secretariat to the Partnership is a UK registered company no. 2985746, 
registered Charity no. 1042125, registered address: David Attenborough Building,
Pembroke Street, Cambridge, CB2 3QZ, UK. BirdLife International Secretariat 
Regional Offices: Amman, Brussels, Nairobi, Quito, Suva, Singapore, Tokyo. 

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--


RE: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-02 Thread Gary Allport
Hi

They sound more like white-fronts to me

Gary

From: bounce-2809245-56897...@mm.list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Wim van Dam
Sent: 03 October 2019 06:54
To: Night Flight Call Discussions 
Subject: [nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of 
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect 
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no 
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose, which would 
be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506<https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506>

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably (hopefully) 
we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The original .WAV file 
is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)
--
NFC-L List Info:
Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME>
Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES>
Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm>
Archives:
The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html>
Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L>
Birding.ABA.Org<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC>
Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!
--

Please consider biodiversity and the environment before deciding whether to 
print this message and any attachments.
The content of this e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or 
entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received 
this communication in error, be aware that forwarding it, copying it, or in any 
way disclosing its content to any other person, is 
strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please 
notify the author by replying to this e-mail immediately.
The BirdLife International Partnership is a Partnership of over 110 
conservation organizations around the world. BirdLife International 
the Secretariat to the Partnership is a UK registered company no. 2985746, 
registered Charity no. 1042125, registered address: David Attenborough Building,
Pembroke Street, Cambridge, CB2 3QZ, UK. BirdLife International Secretariat 
Regional Offices: Amman, Brussels, Nairobi, Quito, Suva, Singapore, Tokyo. 

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--


[nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-02 Thread Wim van Dam
Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose,
which would be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best
recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably
(hopefully) we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The
original .WAV file is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those
interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--

[nfc-l] Canada/Cackling Goose ID request, Solvang, CA (USA)

2019-10-02 Thread Wim van Dam
Last Saturday night (2019-09-28, at about 1AM) I recorded several flocks of
geese flying over my backyard in Solvang, California (USA). I would expect
these to be Canada Goose, but they don't sound right for that (too high, no
honking). So now I'm wondering if these are in fact Cackling Goose,
which would be interesting given the size of the flock. Here is my best
recording:

https://www.xeno-canto.org/500506

Does anybody have any suggestions what these are, and why? Probably
(hopefully) we have to get to the subspecies level to sort this out. The
original .WAV file is 7MB and I'll be happy to email it to those
interested.

Thanks

Wim van Dam
Solvang, CA (USA)

--
NFC-L List Info:

Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME
Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES
Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � 
http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

Archives:
The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L
Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC

Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
--