[Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread CharlesW
Since it was around the first of April, I actually thought all the posts about fuel gauges were related to April Fools Day. So you rig up some sort of contraption that tells you that 1 of fuel remains in your tank. (Just an example) What does that do for you? How far can you ride on that 1 of

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kyle Munz
The bike in that picture didn't have a speedo. I'm with you on the tripodometer though. My fuel gauge isn't very accurate anyways so I always keep on eye on the trip. Around 90-100 miles I start looking for a gas station. -Kyle On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM, CharlesW charlesw_1...@yahoo.com

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread paul annen
and what happens when you only put $3 in the tank? what i would do with the sight glass is drain the tank, and fill it 1/2 gal at a time marking the gal and half gal... 1 inch at the bottom of the tank is not the same volume of fuel as 1 inch at the top of the tank. thats where you get your vital

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread paul annen
and i would mark where the reserve cut off is in red too... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:13 AM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: and what happens when you only put $3 in the tank? what i would do with the sight glass is drain the tank, and fill it 1/2 gal at a time marking the gal and half

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
I would love a fuel gauge simply because I have only one trip odometer. I like to use it for things other than tank mileage, such as route distances for work or one leg of a trip to help me know when my next turn is. Keeping track of a five digit number for a full week of work and school sucks,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
Paul, which model do you have? Javier. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote: *Kurt, that's where installing a GPS mount on your bike comes in handy. My Garmin can keep track of all kinds of useful info INCLUDING telling you how close you are to the nearest gas

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
Paul, how long does your Garmin last on a single charge? Or do you connect it to the battery? I thought about doing this with an iPhone / Android mounted device which would also let me know if a call came in (so I could pull over or bluetooth if I needed to take it), but GPS eats up battery,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
I've given serious thoughts to installing a 12v-5v DC/DC converter somewhere, so I can plug in the phone while following the truck this summer. Not so much because I plan on calling or being called, just so I know it's charged! -Kurt On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Lie Njie

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
Kurt, You can get a cheap standard 12V lighter adapter (like this one, although I'm sure there are cheaper options: http://www.roadtrucker.com/roadpro/roadpro-12-volt-accessories.htm). Connect that to the battery, and then get a 12V lighter charger for your phone. This also allows other

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
Lie: I have a couple of those laying around, actually; I added one to my Quantum (coupe) under the dash, with plans to permanently install a GPS power wire under the A-pillar trim. I like the GPS units high up, so I don't have to look down and away and it isn't messing up my sightlines with the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
I have one of those 12V ligther adapters attached next to my battery with a tape-rap, and it is indeed very useful. Not only for phones and GPS, but even runs my little pump to put air on the tires. However, I am thinking in installing an USB adapter for the newer devices. No all things come with

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
Kurt, Awesome to meet a fellow electrical geek. ;) Since we're freestyling on what you could do, instead of just a connection, you could semi-permanently install a USB charge-through with battery backup solution like this one:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
Lie, wouldn't that be a bit like killing a fly with a missile? Here is the how-to I was talking about: http://cbrforum.com/forum/how-mechanical-40/how-install-charging-usb-port-your-bike-zomg-96467/ Javier. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Lie Njie nighthawk-lov...@kismetworldwide.com wrote:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
Electrogeeks of the list, unite! That's a pretty neat solution to the issue, too; since I'm planning to install a fairing/windscreen combo, probably wouldn't be that hard to find a fairly weather-safe location for it to live. A little modification, some brackets and bam, solution! I have a couple

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
Analogy of the day award so far goes to Javier... -Kurt On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Lie, wouldn't that be a bit like killing a fly with a missile? Here is the how-to I was talking about:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
wouldn't that be a bit like killing a fly with a missile? Here is the how-to I was talking about: http://cbrforum.com/forum/how-mechanical-40/how-install-charging-usb-port-your-bike-zomg-96467/ Cool solution! And no, my idea wasn't like killing a fly with a missile, although a task

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
Well, I see your point Lie. However, when I have used my gps plugged to the 12V lighter adapter, that is connected directly to the battery. I haven't had any issue. If I leave the bike I will be taking the gps with me (for security, clearly). Otherwise the gps is always connected, but most likely

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
True, on the topic of not drawing much power; most USB chargers are rated in the milli-amp range, so you're talking 5w or less really. Your (relatively) big battery isn't going to notice that too quickly, I guess. But electrical geeking is so much fun! -Kurt On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:52 PM,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
GPS *burns* through batteries when there's a LCD screen displaying (my iPhone will die in less than an hour, my Android even quicker), although my 750's 14AH battery should power it for a while before you'll no longer be able to start your bike. But maybe not long enough to power through a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
Oooh, I forgot about GPS. I was thinking cell phones, they're listed at some pretty low amperages. Big, bright LCD screens will draw a lot of power, but the real killer is indeed that satellite connection. I keep GPS off on my phone (Android Eris) whenever it isn't plugged in for that reason.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
I don't think you can compare the phone batteries with the one on your bike. Also, most gps that I know have a nice power on/off button you can press ;-). Javier. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Lie Njie nighthawk-lov...@kismetworldwide.com wrote: GPS *burns* through batteries when there's a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
Stop raining sweet reason on my geekfest parade. :( :p -Kurt On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you can compare the phone batteries with the one on your bike. Also, most gps that I know have a nice power on/off button you can press ;-).

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
I don't think you can compare the phone batteries with the one on your bike. The point is that GPS eats batteries (because of receiving multiple satellite feeds, as Kurt pointed out). Also, most gps that I know have a nice power on/off button you can press ;-). Most people I know

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Joey Kelley
Better late than never (can't miss an electrical party - I get all juiced up!) Might I suggest sticking with a standard 12 volt power socket and then using one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Micro-Auto-Charger-5VOLT/dp/B002F0200Q/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8qid=1301946203sr=8-16 or

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread paul annen
ok guys.. sorry i was working, but i could smell this thread burning up my in box. my dad is an EE for NASA and therefore had me reciting ohms law before i went to kindergarten... but credentials aside... why have the load based on the alt? why not have it on a relay from the ignition

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Lie Njie
why have the load based on the alt? why not have it on a relay from the ignition circuit? i know that i very rarely leave my keys in the switch, much less in the on position... For me it would be to avoid draining while the alt wasn't producing enough power to charge the battery (to avoid

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Kurt Nolte
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: why have the load based on the alt? why not have it on a relay from the ignition circuit? i know that i very rarely leave my keys in the switch, much less in the on position... Because I can? And it's geekery and cool

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread paul annen
understood.. but you have to be at that low rpm for at least 45 min before the bike will die.. and are you really using the GPS for daily commute? if your using it to keep the phone charged then your using less power then a USB will put out and the max power from a USB is 1w. putting that into 12v

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Paul
*I have two Garmins. The 205W and the 255W.* * * * Paul LeBoutillier http://www.facebook.com/paul.lebout * On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, which model do you have? Javier. -- * * -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Paul
*I installed a 12 volt power outlet (i.e. cigarette lighter adapter) to my bike last year so when I go for a ride I plug it in. GPS batteries will only go for a couple hours before petering out.* * * *Paul* * * * Paul LeBoutillier http://www.facebook.com/paul.lebout * * * On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Paul
*By the way...MOST of the Garmin GPS units rate themselves as to whether they are motorcycle friendly/capable. IGNORE THIS RATING. Both the units I own say they should not be used on a motorcycle and I've used both of them and they work perfectly.* * * ***I bought a third-party mount for my

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread James O'Gorman
I will be doing this at some point this summer - a USB and a 12v socket. I've been having problems finding a good waterproof socket - does anyone have any leads? On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: Lie, wouldn't that be a bit like killing a fly with a missile? Here is the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread Javier Garcia
I good place to put it is right next the battery, so it is cover and protected against water and other stuff. If you put it with the hole looking up, you only need the take the seat of to plug your device. If looking in another direction (like mine), you need to take the side cover off. This is

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread James O'Gorman
Paul, (or someone else who has done this) Can you post a pic of the final product? I want to see where you ended up mounting the outlet and/or how it was waterproofed. Thanks! - JO On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Paul wrote: I installed a 12 volt power outlet (i.e. cigarette lighter adapter)

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why?

2011-04-04 Thread greenzer...@gmail.com
west marine -Original Message- Date: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:10:12 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fuel Gauge, why? I will be doing this at some point this summer - a USB and a 12v socket. I've been