Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-07-03 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Yes, I did and sorry for not mention this earlier. There is no frame screw with ground near the rectifier so I pulled out the green sockets from the RR connector to fit them outside and bridged them over to the minus battery port directly. But it didn‘t help either which did not surprise me

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-07-03 Thread Jim Frazer
Have you tried running an extra ground wire from engine (at the starter) to the frame (battery “door” bolt ? The battery ground goes directly to the engine, not to the frame. Engine mounts are rubber. It’s worked for me before. Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Frank

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-07-03 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Hey Guys, took a while to get forward and work through all possible traps by checking again every connector, switch, cable, fuse box, panel, ignition switch, green ground connection underneath tank at the coils etc. and following the diagram all the way back to the rear lights. Even both, RR

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-07-03 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Hi Dennis, took a while to get forward and work through all possible traps by checking again every connector, switch, cable, fuse box, panel, ignition switch, green ground connection underneath tank at the coils etc. and following the diagram all the way back to the rear lights. Even both, RR

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-21 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Thanks for your inputs which actually both sound reasonable in general. Plucking the diagram along the harness up to the starter switch and further to the ignition switch in the meter panel would definitely make sense if I had a noticable voltage drop or resistance between the left and right

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-21 Thread Ian Chames
Oops, meant to say that I paid $180 for a new Stator... and Well worth the price! Aloha, Ian On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 10:35 PM Ian Chames wrote: > When I bought my 83 Nighthawk 650 last year, right away I had charging > issues. The battery was a closed cell, supposedly in good condition. >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-21 Thread Ian Chames
When I bought my 83 Nighthawk 650 last year, right away I had charging issues. The battery was a closed cell, supposedly in good condition. Changed the rectifier first (as it was the cheapest replacement item), charging output at 3000+ rpm was putting out only about 11.8 volts. Bit the bullet,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-20 Thread Drew Gormley
It sounds like you might have a connection causing a drain of voltage somewhere. While my bike discharges a little each ride, I top it off every few days with the trickle, I've never stalled or lost power. Check all your shinies and connectors aren't corroded or loose. Shiny = Volts. On Tue, Jun

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-20 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
One step ahead, I received a new aftermarket R/R to replace the old one but both passed voltage measures and diode tests outside. No surprise it didn't make a difference and the load capacity still doesn't reach 13V @5000 after checking these things: - battery fine and fully charged giving 12.8V

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-17 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Kyle, thanks for confirming the idle caveat again which at least complies with the Clymer. It just makes me wonder whether the Nighthawk was far ahead that time with CDI, hydraulic valves and final drive for highway trips only while it sucks the battery in city traffic. However, it all doesn't

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-17 Thread Kyle Munz
One thing I learned back when I had my 650 was that Mr Clymer will absolutely lie to you and won't feel bad about it. I can't say if he's right or not about the charging system, it's been too many years, I think the biggest lie I found was with wiring diagram had some wire colors mixed up. That

[Nighthawk Lovers] The Clymer myth of testing the charging system

2022-06-17 Thread Frank Hawkwarts
Dear Hawkies, proudly owning an US 83‘ Nighthawk 650 for many years now, I much appreciate Paul's valuable site leading me to this group. Currently I‘m also fighting the famous charging issues and struggle with a misleading information in the Clymer CB550 & 650 Nighthawk 1983-1985 chapters 4