Re: [Nix-dev] Gutenprint cups drivers
Hi Marc, (and others), Thanks for the mails you sent me in reply to my support request [1] in February, I tried to follow them as good as I could. But, since there was a pull request, which allegedly would enable me to use the new gutenprint necessary for my Canon PIXMA MG5200 printer, I had settled for waiting until it was to be merged. Well, it seems that's not going to happen anytime soon. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/1120/ So I tried to build cups/gutenprint from that pull request on my own. but, when I merge it into a current channel-nixos branch of mine, nix doesn't finish the building the system configuration... step and instead just hogs more and more memory, slowing the system to a grind. I tried cherry-picking the important commits over to another branch, but the commit history has so many cross-merges, that I can't make heads nor tails of it. What are you using at the moment? Thanks, Jonas Footnotes: [1] http://lists.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2014-February/012478.html ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] New website
Hi Wout, On 01/06/14 09:58, Wout Mertens wrote: * Nixpkgs should be more visible Actually, a major goal in the redesign was to *get rid* of all the non-NixOS stuff. It's the NixOS homepage, after all, not the Nixpkgs homepage. Confronting visitors with a lot of other projects is just confusing. I actually considered removing the Projects menu in the navbar, since it's not really useful. (E.g. if you want the patchelf page, you can just google for it.) It would be nice to have a Packages link in the navbar though, like on archlinux.org, linking to a easily browseable list of available packages. Also, the front page could have a blurb about the number of packages available in NixOS, which could link to Nixpkgs. * The front page is serving new visitors and active users, it should pick one. I considered removing all the news from the homepage, but 1) it seems useful to show activity on the homepage, just to convey that the project is alive; 2) visitors don't have to read it, it's easy to mentally filter it, so I felt it doesn't hurt much to have it there. o Front page mostly for active users: https://www.archlinux.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/ o Front page mostly for discovery/downloads: http://videolan.org Videolan.org actually has a pretty similar layout to nixos.org: a description + big download button, followed by news/blogs. -- Eelco Dolstra | LogicBlox, Inc. | http://nixos.org/~eelco/ ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] New website
Eelco Dolstra eelco.dols...@logicblox.com wrote: Actually, a major goal in the redesign was to *get rid* of all the non-NixOS stuff. It's the NixOS homepage, after all, not the Nixpkgs homepage. Confronting visitors with a lot of other projects is just confusing. While non-NixOS stuff belongs into the wiki, nixpkgs itself is not quite non-NixOS. I very much like the structure of the Arch Linux homepage with its small introduction (no large fonts), news as the primary content and recent activity in the package database. On the right hand side you find links to documentation and other stuff. NixOS differs from other distributions in that it is actually a collection of projects that work together. As such a projects menu should appear somewhere on the page and you should not have to unroll it first. It should include at least (here in alphabetical order): * Hydra, * Nixops, * NixOS, * nixpkgs. I agree that helper packages like PatchELF do not belong there. It would be nice to have a Packages link in the navbar though, like on archlinux.org, linking to a easily browseable list of available packages. Also, the front page could have a blurb about the number of packages available in NixOS, which could link to Nixpkgs. This should be easy enough by using nix-env's XML output together with a suitable XSLT stylesheet. Hydra could take care of maintaining it. * The front page is serving new visitors and active users, it should pick one. I considered removing all the news from the homepage, but 1) it seems useful to show activity on the homepage, just to convey that the project is alive; 2) visitors don't have to read it, it's easy to mentally filter it, so I felt it doesn't hurt much to have it there. News are fine. They are useful both to newcomers and to active users. Videolan.org actually has a pretty similar layout to nixos.org: a description + big download button, followed by news/blogs. I would compare VideoLAN less to a distribution and more to a monolithic software package similar to Firefox or LibreOffice. Also I wouldn't like people to mistake NixOS as just another distro. It is, among other things, a development and (continuous) deployment platform. The homepage should make this clear. Greets, Ertugrul -- Ertugrul Söylemez ert...@gmx.de Key-ID: F9B5212A Fingerprint: 8D89 7AC9 21CF F868 F074 9058 30CB D56F F9B5 212A pgpU5_7dQ32YB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] KDE 4.13.1?
Hi Wout, On 01/06/14 18:45, Wout Mertens wrote: what is the procedure for upgrading KDE? Is it simply creating a new kde-4.13 tree with the new source versions or is it more involved? A bit more: * Copy kde-4.12 to kde-4.13. * Download all of KDE locally, via wget -r http://download.kde.org/stable/4.13.1; or something like that. * Run kde-package/kde-manifest.sh and l10n/l10n-manifest.sh to update all the version numbers and tarball hashes. -- Eelco Dolstra | LogicBlox, Inc. | http://nixos.org/~eelco/ ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] New website
Hi Eelco! On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Eelco Dolstra eelco.dols...@logicblox.com wrote: On 01/06/14 09:58, Wout Mertens wrote: * Nixpkgs should be more visible Actually, a major goal in the redesign was to *get rid* of all the non-NixOS stuff. It's the NixOS homepage, after all, not the Nixpkgs homepage. Confronting visitors with a lot of other projects is just confusing. Ok, I get that... but on the other hand Nixpkgs is a *major* thing. I can see it supplanting Homebrew on the Mac once it has more packages, and it allows deploying newer versions of services on older distributions, safely. I agree that Nix is not that interesting to end-users. Likewise, NixOps is very interesting but probably only to a small subset of potential NixOS users. So how about making the discover/download section of the homepage more visually separate from the news section, and splitting it vertically: |NixOS is Awesome! | NixPkgs installs anywhere! | | * declarative * instant rollback * ... | * Debian * RedHat * Suse * OS X * ... | | [Download] [Learn More]|(6500 pkgs) [Download] [Learn More]| News Blogs News - News Twitter News - News Commits It would be nice to have a Packages link in the navbar though, like on archlinux.org, linking to a easily browseable list of available packages. Also, the front page could have a blurb about the number of packages available in NixOS, which could link to Nixpkgs. Yes a package list would be great. How do you count the packages btw? nix-env lists 24k :) * The front page is serving new visitors and active users, it should pick one. I considered removing all the news from the homepage, but 1) it seems useful to show activity on the homepage, just to convey that the project is alive; 2) visitors don't have to read it, it's easy to mentally filter it, so I felt it doesn't hurt much to have it there. Yeah... although right now I think it is visually too much like the learn about nixos part, and a layout with more spacing and clear sectioning would help. Wout. ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
