Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
No, at least I haven't planned it. Also, IMHO we'd need to patch nixpkgs with [1] to be able to do this (then you can interactively view parameters of packages etc. interactively with nix-repl with a few nice functions). Part of this has been proposed here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/13890, I will wait until this is decided to maybe think about it. btw @Roger Qiu: did you manage to get the demo working in the meantime? [1] https://github.com/fkz/nixos-homepage/blob/master/nixpkgs/packages.json-generation/nixpkgs.patch On 03/21/2016 01:30 PM, Roger Qiu wrote: > Just wanted to ask, is this package search enhanced with showing package > parameters planned to be added to the standard command line Nix query > tools? Or if it's already available and I haven't found it. > > On 9/03/2016 2:46 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: >> I've added a few features: >> >> - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 >> - Search in parameters >> - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now >> shows parameters >> - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine >> what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is >> >> As before, demo can be foud here: >> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to >> official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might need >> to clear your cache to see the new version. >> >> I've also added a pull request: >> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment >> either on the list or on github. >> >> Have a great day! >> >> Fabian >> >> On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the >>> nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: >>> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. >>> >>> When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses >>> a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and >>> thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes >>> roughly as follows: >>> >>> - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - >>> by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list >>> or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed >>> - Otherwise, it's displayed >>> >>> I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I >>> couldn't find it. >>> >>> Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate >>> version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that >>> aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix >>> because this info is currently not available, we only know if the >>> argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. >>> >>> Source code can be found on >>> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master >>> Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the >>> override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original >>> function. >>> Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching >>> errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more >>> generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). >>> >>> Fabian >>> >> ___ >> nix-dev mailing list >> nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl >> http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
The demo works great now. On 22/03/2016 1:14 AM, "Fabian Schmitthenner" wrote: > No, at least I haven't planned it. Also, IMHO we'd need to patch nixpkgs > with [1] to be able to do this (then you can interactively view > parameters of packages etc. interactively with nix-repl with a few nice > functions). Part of this has been proposed here: > https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/13890, I will wait until this is > decided to maybe think about it. > > btw @Roger Qiu: did you manage to get the demo working in the meantime? > > [1] > > https://github.com/fkz/nixos-homepage/blob/master/nixpkgs/packages.json-generation/nixpkgs.patch > > On 03/21/2016 01:30 PM, Roger Qiu wrote: > > Just wanted to ask, is this package search enhanced with showing package > > parameters planned to be added to the standard command line Nix query > > tools? Or if it's already available and I haven't found it. > > > > On 9/03/2016 2:46 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > >> I've added a few features: > >> > >> - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 > >> - Search in parameters > >> - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now > >> shows parameters > >> - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine > >> what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is > >> > >> As before, demo can be foud here: > >> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to > >> official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might > need > >> to clear your cache to see the new version. > >> > >> I've also added a pull request: > >> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment > >> either on the list or on github. > >> > >> Have a great day! > >> > >> Fabian > >> > >> On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on > the > >>> nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > >>> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > >>> > >>> When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses > >>> a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and > >>> thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes > >>> roughly as follows: > >>> > >>> - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - > >>> by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a > list > >>> or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed > >>> - Otherwise, it's displayed > >>> > >>> I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I > >>> couldn't find it. > >>> > >>> Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more > elaborate > >>> version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that > >>> aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix > >>> because this info is currently not available, we only know if the > >>> argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. > >>> > >>> Source code can be found on > >>> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master > >>> Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the > >>> override... functions, but also the original parameters and the > original > >>> function. > >>> Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching > >>> errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more > >>> generally (when polished) (see > https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). > >>> > >>> Fabian > >>> > >> ___ > >> nix-dev mailing list > >> nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl > >> http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev > > > ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
No, at least I haven't planned it. Also, IMHO we'd need to patch nixpkgs with [1] to be able to do this (then you can interactively view parameters of packages etc. interactively with nix-repl with a few nice functions). Part of this has been proposed here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/13890, I will wait until this is decided to maybe think about it. btw @Roger Qiu: did you manage to get the demo working in the meantime? [1] https://github.com/fkz/nixos-homepage/blob/master/nixpkgs/packages.json-generation/nixpkgs.patch On 03/21/2016 01:30 PM, Roger Qiu wrote: > Just wanted to ask, is this package search enhanced with showing package > parameters planned to be added to the standard command line Nix query > tools? Or if it's already available and I haven't found it. > > On 9/03/2016 2:46 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: >> I've added a few features: >> >> - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 >> - Search in parameters >> - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now >> shows parameters >> - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine >> what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is >> >> As before, demo can be foud here: >> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to >> official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might need >> to clear your cache to see the new version. >> >> I've also added a pull request: >> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment >> either on the list or on github. >> >> Have a great day! >> >> Fabian >> >> On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the >>> nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: >>> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. >>> >>> When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses >>> a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and >>> thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes >>> roughly as follows: >>> >>> - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - >>> by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list >>> or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed >>> - Otherwise, it's displayed >>> >>> I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I >>> couldn't find it. >>> >>> Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate >>> version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that >>> aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix >>> because this info is currently not available, we only know if the >>> argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. >>> >>> Source code can be found on >>> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master >>> Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the >>> override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original >>> function. >>> Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching >>> errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more >>> generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). >>> >>> Fabian >>> >> ___ >> nix-dev mailing list >> nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl >> http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
On 03/21/2016 02:30 PM, Roger Qiu wrote: > Just wanted to ask, is this package search enhanced with showing package > parameters planned to be added to the standard command line Nix query > tools? Or if it's already available and I haven't found it. I know of no such plans, and I don't think it was mentioned during discussing the CLI overhaul https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/779 --Vladimir smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
Just wanted to ask, is this package search enhanced with showing package parameters planned to be added to the standard command line Nix query tools? Or if it's already available and I haven't found it. On 9/03/2016 2:46 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > I've added a few features: > > - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 > - Search in parameters > - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now > shows parameters > - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine > what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is > > As before, demo can be foud here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to > official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might need > to clear your cache to see the new version. > > I've also added a pull request: > https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment > either on the list or on github. > > Have a great day! > > Fabian > > On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the >> nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: >> http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. >> >> When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses >> a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and >> thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes >> roughly as follows: >> >> - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - >> by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list >> or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed >> - Otherwise, it's displayed >> >> I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I >> couldn't find it. >> >> Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate >> version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that >> aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix >> because this info is currently not available, we only know if the >> argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. >> >> Source code can be found on >> https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master >> Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the >> override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original >> function. >> Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching >> errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more >> generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). >> >> Fabian >> > ___ > nix-dev mailing list > nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl > http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev -- Founder of Matrix AI https://matrix.ai/ +61420925975 ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
I've added a few features: - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 - Search in parameters - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now shows parameters - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is As before, demo can be foud here: http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might need to clear your cache to see the new version. I've also added a pull request: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment either on the list or on github. Have a great day! Fabian On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > Hi! > > I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the > nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > > When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses > a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and > thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes > roughly as follows: > > - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - > by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list > or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed > - Otherwise, it's displayed > > I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I > couldn't find it. > > Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate > version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that > aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix > because this info is currently not available, we only know if the > argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. > > Source code can be found on > https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master > Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the > override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original > function. > Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching > errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more > generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). > > Fabian > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
I've added a few features: - Search in 15.09 as well as 16.03 - Search in parameters - A few more packages with parameters are recognized, e. g. firefox now shows parameters - Better error handling: If a parameter fails while trying to determine what kind it is, it's simply not displayed, but anything else is As before, demo can be foud here: http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. (compare to official version: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html). You might need to clear your cache to see the new version. I've also added a pull request: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/78. Feel free to comment either on the list or on github. Have a great day! Fabian On 02/29/2016 03:59 AM, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > Hi! > > I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the > nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > > When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses > a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and > thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes > roughly as follows: > > - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - > by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list > or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed > - Otherwise, it's displayed > > I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I > couldn't find it. > > Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate > version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that > aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix > because this info is currently not available, we only know if the > argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. > > Source code can be found on > https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master > Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the > override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original > function. > Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching > errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more > generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). > > Fabian > ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
On 29-02-2016 03:59:58, Fabian Schmitthenner wrote: > Hi! > > I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the > nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > +1! I love it. It even shows opitonal package parameters! AWESOME! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Kind regards, Matthias Beyer Proudly sent with mutt. Happily signed with gnupg. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
I think it's great! I bookmarked your copy because I plan on using it while I look forward to its integration on nixos.org. :-) On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 9:00 PM Fabian Schmitthenner < nix-...@schmitthenner.eu> wrote: > Hi! > > I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the > nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > > When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses > a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and > thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes > roughly as follows: > > - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - > by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list > or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed > - Otherwise, it's displayed > > I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I > couldn't find it. > > Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate > version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that > aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix > because this info is currently not available, we only know if the > argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. > > Source code can be found on > https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master > Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the > override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original > function. > Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching > errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more > generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw > ). > > Fabian > ___ > nix-dev mailing list > nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl > http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev > ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
Re: [Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
Nice, I like that! Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Feb 2016, at 04:59, Fabian Schmitthenner > wrote: > > Hi! > > I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the > nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: > http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. > > When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses > a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and > thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes > roughly as follows: > > - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - > by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list > or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed > - Otherwise, it's displayed > > I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I > couldn't find it. > > Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate > version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that > aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix > because this info is currently not available, we only know if the > argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. > > Source code can be found on > https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master > Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the > override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original > function. > Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching > errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more > generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). > > Fabian > ___ > nix-dev mailing list > nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl > http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
[Nix-dev] Displaying package parameters
Hi! I just wanted to share that I tried displaying package parameters on the nixos homepage and the current result can be seen here: http://schmitthenner.eu/nixos-homepage/nixos/packages.html. When you click on a package, you hopefully see its parameter. This uses a heruristic to try to figure out which parameters are packages (and thus not displayed) and which are not (and thus displayed) that goes roughly as follows: - If the parameter is instantiated - either implicitly or explicitly - by callPackage, we look at the value and if it's a derivation, or a list or attrset set of derivations, or a function it's not displayed - Otherwise, it's displayed I think there was a discussion about this a short while ago, but I couldn't find it. Please let me know what you think and if we might want a (more elaborate version, e. g. also displaying the value of default arguments that aren't changed by callPackage, which requires an other change to nix because this info is currently not available, we only know if the argument is optional or not afaik) of this on our official website. Source code can be found on https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/compare/master...fkz:master Technically, I patched nixpkgs customization, so we not only get the override... functions, but also the original parameters and the original function. Furthermore, this uses a patched version of nix which allows catching errors inside nix (added a primop __catch) that also seems useful more generally (when polished) (see https://github.com/fkz/nix/tree/catch-throw). Fabian ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev
