Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-02-04 Thread Graham Christensen
At this point I think we should not make any changes in how we support i686. Graham On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:37 AM Graham Christensen wrote: > > As far as I know, Nix has no way to gather statistics on how many people > are using different architectures. This makes

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-02-04 Thread Tilo Schwarz
Please don't drop it yet :-) % uname -a Linux schleppa 4.4.40 #1-NixOS SMP Fri Jan 6 10:16:31 UTC 2017 i686 GNU/Linux Thank you, Tilo -- Best regards / Viele Grüße, Tilo Schwarz ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-02-03 Thread Yarny
Am 26.01.2017 um 14:37 schrieb graham at grahamc.com (Graham Christensen): > anyone on this list know anyone > using NixOS on i686? Hi, we're currently moving from openSUSE to NixOS. More than half of the machines I'm administering are i686 architecture, and 32 bit support is is one of many

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-28 Thread Maarten Hoogendoorn
2017-01-27 14:13 GMT+01:00 Eelco Dolstra : > > I think it's more an issue of build time, especially if we want Hydra to > build > PRs (which could trigger a full rebuild in the worst case). > > I think we could/should use a GitHub bot like the @bors used by the Rust

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-27 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 01/27/2017 02:13 PM, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > Another possibility is to reduce the number of packages that get built for > i686, > but it would be tricky to decide which packages to keep. I had thought of building i686 packages "less often", but I couldn't see an easy way to do that, except

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-27 Thread Marco Maggesi
I use nixos i686 on virtualbox, xen and on some old hardware. For some applications, i686 binaries require less memory and are slightly faster. From my personal use, the dismiss of support of i686 would be a loss. Marco 2017-01-26 16:46 GMT+01:00 Ryan Trinkle : > I provide

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-27 Thread Lukas Epple
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 08:37:06AM -0500, Graham Christensen wrote: > One person on IRC said they think they may have used it once. Does > anyone on this list use NixOS on i686? anyone on this list know anyone > using NixOS on i686? I use a IBM ThinkPad T43 with NixOS.

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-27 Thread Graham Christensen
Vladimír Čunát writes: > When creating a new stable, I think the month between branch-off and > release should be enough to fix any important i686-specific issues, as > they tend to be relatively rare. However then, in the worst case, we're left to git-bisect 6 months of

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Vladimír Čunát
I think the main resource cost for us is the build farm and binary cache. Idea: what about building full i686-linux set only on stable branches? Note: obviously, callPackage_i686 will still use i686 even if "evaluated for x86_64", which is what we want for wine, skype, etc. When creating a new

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Ertugrul Söylemez
> As far as I know, Nix has no way to gather statistics on how many people > are using different architectures. This makes questions like this a bit > awkward. > > One person on IRC said they think they may have used it once. Does > anyone on this list use NixOS on i686? anyone on this list know

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Ryan Trinkle
I provide i686 binaries for users of reflex-platform, a nix-based environment for developing GUI applications in Haskell. I have only a few confirmed users of i686, but since their machines are correspondingly older and less powerful than most of my other users', the benefit of nix's binary

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Profpatsch
On 17-01-26 08:37am, Graham Christensen wrote: > One person on IRC said they think they may have used it once. Does > anyone on this list use NixOS on i686? anyone on this list know anyone > using NixOS on i686? I’m using it for one old machine running the audio server of our hackerspace. --

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Nathan Bijnens
It would be a pity if we didn't support i686 anymore. I use NixOS on a NAS, which only supports i686. This question has been asked before (about 6 months ago). On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 15:02 Benno Fünfstück wrote: > There's still a few packages in nixpkgs that

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Benno Fünfstück
There's still a few packages in nixpkgs that require i686, like Skype, even on x86_64. Benno Graham Christensen schrieb am Do., 26. Jan. 2017, 14:37: > > As far as I know, Nix has no way to gather statistics on how many people > are using different architectures. This makes

Re: [Nix-dev] Arch is dropping i686. Should we?

2017-01-26 Thread Robert Helgesson
> Does anyone on this list use NixOS on i686? Besides some VirtualBox image laying around I have one physical machine: $ uname -a Linux kappa 4.4.31 #1-NixOS SMP Thu Nov 10 15:37:00 UTC 2016 i686 GNU/Linux $ grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo model name: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III