Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
If I understand your question correctly, you are looking for something that can be used to test whether or not a given password is valid for a given account, and you don't want to actually attempt to log in. Forgive me if I am misinterpreting the situation, but it sounds rather like you are

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread Curt Lundgren
Thanks, John - but what I'm trying to do is determine whether the user has entered the right password - and since they don't have shells, I need something that doesn't attempt an actual login. As to the written authorization, being root on the system, I'd have to authorize myself (in writing,

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
The only way that I know is to calculate the password hash, using the same algorithm as the login program, and check whether the resulting hash matches what is in /etc/shadow (on newer systems) or /etc/passwd (on older systems). -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 03:57:18PM -0600, Curt Lundgren wrote: Right, and that seems to be the direction I'll head in. User password authentication on this particular system is via LDAP and I'm learning enough about it that I can probably take that route. I was hoping for an already built

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread Curt Lundgren
Really, I'd rather not be involved in a flamefest - John's original reply was not uncalled for. I could have been more complete in my first message - so blame me if you like. I'm not sure if PAM is going to work, since the only way these users are known to the system is via LDAP (I've never

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- Michael Chaney mdcha...@michaelchaney.com wrote: John, may I suggest decaf for a week? Not beating the dead horse, but it I'm sure this comes from the presentation Randal Schwartz gave some time back about his encounter at Intel over a security audit.

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
Yes, that is the case I was thinking of. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Steven S. Critchfield cri...@basesys.com Date: Mon, 7 Dec

Re: [nlug] Testing Linux user authentication with no shell

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Chaney
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steven S. Critchfield cri...@basesys.com wrote: - Michael Chaney mdcha...@michaelchaney.com wrote: John, may I suggest decaf for a week? Not beating the dead horse, but it I'm sure this comes from the presentation Randal Schwartz gave some time back about

[nlug] Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Boniol
MRB-III, room 1220 has been confirmed for our use on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, 6 pm to 7:55 pm, from January 12, 2009 through July 13, 2009. This is the space we met in a few years ago. Tables that go the width of the room with wired connections in table, seats 110. Paul Boniol -- You

Re: [nlug] Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread Curt Lundgren
Woo hoo - awesome!!! (By the way, since I was not a member a few years ago, would you be so kind as to share the address with us?) Curt On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Paul Boniol paul.bon...@gmail.com wrote: MRB-III, room 1220 has been confirmed for our use on the 2nd Tuesday of each month,

Re: [nlug] Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Boniol
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Curt Lundgren verif...@gmail.com wrote: Woo hoo - awesome!!! (By the way, since I was not a member a few years ago, would you be so kind as to share the address with us?) Curt On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Paul Boniol paul.bon...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: [nlug] Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread William Turner
This response was funnier than mine... Bill -Original Message- From: nlug-talk+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Barber Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:25 PM To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nlug] Confirmation of Room

Re: [nlug] Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Boniol
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Ken Barber ken.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Paul Boniol wrote: MRB-III, room 1220 has been confirmed for our use on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, 6 pm to 7:55 pm, from January 12, 2009 through July 13, 2009. Nice to know that it has

Re: [nlug] map to tomorrow night's meeting place

2009-12-07 Thread Chris McQuistion
According to all I've heard, we are NOT having a regular Tuesday meeting this month. We are having a Linux Fest at Watkins this Saturday from 10 to 4, but no regular meeting this month. (This has been posted to the NLUG site.) There is some conflicting information on the mailing list,

Re: [nlug] map to tomorrow night's meeting place

2009-12-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am an NLUG officer (the secretary), but I apparently mistook the proposal of St. Edward's School as a meeting place for an announcement that this month's meeting would be at St. Edward's. I apologize to everyone for the mixup. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to

[nlug] NLUG Meeting December 8 changed to informal meeting at Pizza Perfect and InstallFest Information

2009-12-07 Thread Kevin Eldridge
Hello Nashville Linux User's Group, Tomorrow on Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 we are not going to have our normal meeting at the Biostatistics department (Room D2221) at 6:00pm. This is due to the meeting space for our InstallFest being unavailable for December 19th. It is available on Saturday,

[nlug] Re: Confirmation of Room Scheduling

2009-12-07 Thread Matt Latsha
I've been to it once for a meeting way back in 2007. The best way to describe its location is to go up the steps just across from the University School of Nashville, but instead of turning around to go across the bridge, go straight and then left. Here's a pic of the stairs I mean