[nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
Hey guys, I have a spanking new CentOS desktop install in front of me that is playing silly with networking. The install process from DVD seems to have gone according to plan. Yet its network configuration is not working. I've reviewed the following: /etc/resolv.confas

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Chris McQuistion
Are you using an onboard NIC? Is it a Marvell chipset? I've noticed a couple weird things like this with very particular Marvell chips. (instance where things would looks correct and it wouldn't necessarily report problems, but it would not get a gateway or wouldn't pick up an IP from DHCP.) My

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
Chris McQuistion wrote: Are you using an onboard NIC? Is it a Marvell chipset? I've noticed a couple weird things like this with very particular Marvell chips. (instance where things would looks correct and it wouldn't necessarily report problems, but it would not get a gateway or wouldn't

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread David R. Wilson
Hello Howard, Check /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. I have been using CentOS on some stuff for a while, but not the desktop version. If I was guessing I would not be surprised if they are using something in the way of NetworkManager, which I have found to be a very

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard Coles
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:02 PM, David R. Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Hello Howard, Check /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. I have been using CentOS on some stuff for a while, but not the desktop version.  If I was guessing I would not be surprised if they are

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:02:52PM -0600, David R. Wilson wrote: Hello Howard, Check /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. Seconded. NetworkMangler does bad things to the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ethX interface definition files at

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
John R. Dennison wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:02:52PM -0600, David R. Wilson wrote: Hello Howard, Check /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. Seconded. NetworkMangler does bad things to the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ethX interface definition files

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread ./aal
just 2 cents here (oops) isnt the 169.254.x.x zeroconf addressing? I know M$ puts in the same when dhcp fails -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 05:20:18PM -0600, Howard wrote: Many thanks for the responses. Allow me to reiterate that the /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 files are correct. I did as John Dennison suggests and yum erase NetworkManager to no net change in

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
./aal wrote: just 2 cents here (oops) isnt the 169.254.x.x zeroconf addressing? I know M$ puts in the same when dhcp fails That is part of the weirdness that caused me to bring this issue to the list. I am seeing similar behavior on another CentOS 5.4 install that I'm working with. M$

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
John R. Dennison wrote: /etc/sysconfig/network is not correct if you have to manually add a default route :) Are you sure you have a GATEWAY=a.b.c.d statement in there? John Well let's restate my premise a

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Ken Barber
On Jan 19, 2010, at 5:29 PM, ./aal wrote: isnt the 169.254.x.x zeroconf addressing? It's a default that is used if no other address is given to the card. I know M$ puts in the same when dhcp fails No, they don't. It's the card's firmware that puts it in. This happens regardless of the OS.

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Ken Barber
On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Howard wrote: GATEWAY=198.168.1.1 WRONG NETWORK! The card is on 192.whatever, not 198 (see below) ifcfg-eth0: # Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=192.168.1.255 HWADDR=00:08:74:4F:3E:8A

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 06:10:50PM -0600, Howard wrote: Well let's restate my premise a bit. My /etc/sysconfig/network reads correctly to me but not to some process in the system. NETWORKING=yes NETWORKING_IPV6=yes HOSTNAME=host.domain.tld GATEWAY=198.168.1.1 Yep, looks sane.

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 06:14:59PM -0600, Ken Barber wrote: If you're seeing this, it means that your card isn't being configured on startup. Not by DHCP, not by /etc/sysconfig/whatever, not by anything. Umm, not necessarily. RHEL and respins add a route for 169.254.0.0/16

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 06:18:52PM -0600, Ken Barber wrote: On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Howard wrote: GATEWAY=198.168.1.1 WRONG NETWORK! The card is on 192.whatever, not 198 (see below) Opps. You are, sir, indeed correct. I think it's time I went to have my eyes

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Ken Barber
On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:31 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: I specifically exclude NetworkMangler as I'm pretty sure it's installed by default in a gui install (network-manager-gnome gets installed in a Gnome environment I don't install or use the abomination known as Gnome, which

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Jonathan Sheehan
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:31 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: RHEL and respins add a route for 169.254.0.0/16 to the primary interface. If you wish to prevent this behavior add NOZEROCONF=yes to the definition file

Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread David R. Wilson
I have not poked around with IPV6 much, but if your not using it and your on an IPV4 network with bits of IPV6 enabled that might cause some interesting ugliness. How about: NETWORKING IPV6=NO ? Dave On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 18:10 -0600, Howard wrote: John R. Dennison wrote:

FIXED!!! Re: [nlug] CentOS 5.4 weirdness

2010-01-19 Thread Howard
Ken Barber wrote: On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Howard wrote: GATEWAY=198.168.1.1 WRONG NETWORK! The card is on 192.whatever, not 198 (see below) ifcfg-eth0: # Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=192.168.1.255