[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-03 Thread Daniel Owen
This discussion came up on one of the SANS lists recently and unfortunately I didn't save the thread for the references but there is research showing that if you have a well funded advisory you are better off wiping the drive once than physical damage to a level less than than total shredding.

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Drew cothar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Like the subject says, this pertains to data security, but not just on linux/bsd/*nix. What I'd like to know is if anyone has a tool they prefer for wiping hard drives in workstations. As we grow/upgrade systems, we

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Jack Coats
I agree with Sky. There used to be 'low level format' available on cheap IDE controllers that worked pretty well. The best I remember seeing that kept the drive useable was an old dos/windows program that did a 'distructive disk test' that I used several times on different disks that were

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Jim Peterson
I use DBAN (Darik's Boot And Nuke) for all my wipes. It uses the same algorithms that the DoD uses, as well as some other standards that are more thorough, though probably less useful as they take much, much longer to run. I trust DBAN enough to take care of our retired drives that have the

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Jim Peterson
My kids (the 12-yr-old boy 8-yr old girl) like to try and take turns with the sledgehammer. Of course, I usually end up doing the deed, but like Jack's idea, it is very satisfying and actually provides a great workout too! I also sight in my deer rifle with them, and use them for target practice

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Chris McQuistion
I'll chime in with another vote for DBAN. The only thing I have to add is that DBAN (stable) supports most, but not all controllers. I have a second CD with DBAN beta that seems to support other (AHCI) controllers. Between the two of those CD's, I don't have any problem wiping drives. I

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
Interesting... I didn't know IDE did hot swap. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.eduwrote: I'll chime in with another vote for DBAN. The only thing I have to add is that DBAN (stable) supports most, but not all controllers. I have a second CD with DBAN

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... I didn't know IDE did hot swap. I don't know if that was originally intended to do it, but there are commands in hdparm for spinning down drives and such. Also commands for rescanning the IDE bus. Of course you have to have a

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Chris McQuistion
I probably shouldn't have called it hot-swap. It is just a removable drive bay and I always shut down to swap the drives around, although I think there are some commands to do it, hot, I just don't really trust them. Chris On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com

[nlug] Re: Data security?

2009-04-02 Thread Drew
Great information, great discussion. I agree that destroying the drive (the fire arm method is one I've used personally) is the surest form of data security, however our retired workstations tend to be better than many people's (especially our employees) home computers, so we first tend to sell