Re: [Nmh-workers] Message-IDs and Content-IDs

2012-07-18 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
"Host part" is pseudo, it's after the @ and can include most ASCII printable characters. Just read, say, 64 bytes from /dev/random and base64 encode it. ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-

Re: [Nmh-workers] Message-IDs and Content-IDs

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Lane
David Levine writes: > I've been thinking more about Message-IDs. The way nmh, > sendmail, and Fedora configure things by default, the host > part is worthless, but I expect that's common in these > halcyon days of NAT. Agreed ... that's a problem ... but > So I'm thinking of generating a Messa

[Nmh-workers] Message-IDs and Content-IDs

2012-07-18 Thread David Levine
I've been thinking more about Message-IDs. The way nmh, sendmail, and Fedora configure things by default, the host part is worthless, but I expect that's common in these halcyon days of NAT. And on some hosts, I want the real hostname to be masked, esp. when using a masqueraded From: address. (I

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Ken Hornstein writes: Your draft file does not contain a From: header; this version of nmh requires that all draft messages contain one. See the default component templates for examples and insure that your draft contains a valid From: header. s/insure/ensure/ Insurance ensures you will recei

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Tethys
Ken Hornstein writes: >Your draft file does not contain a From: header; this version of nmh >requires that all draft messages contain one. See the default >component templates for examples and insure that your draft contains >a valid From: header. s/insure/ensure/ Tet

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Well, I agree that it's long, but this isn't a transient error, it's an >upgrade issue and that's a place where at least one person (me) doesn't >expect things to break. So giving explicit instructions seems OK to me >even if they're long. Fair enough. Although technically the issue is more wit

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
Ken Hornstein writes: > >A more user-friendly diagnostic might be: > > > > Your components files are not compatible with this version of nmh. > > You have modified them so we were unable to automatically update them. > > You need to go to /etc/nmh and merge in the changes to the compone

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Hornstein
>A more user-friendly diagnostic might be: > > Your components files are not compatible with this version of nmh. > You have modified them so we were unable to automatically update them. > You need to go to /etc/nmh and merge in the changes to the components, > forwcomps, re

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
Ken Hornstein writes: > >I have a slightly modified version that removes the default Fcc stuff that > >was > >added some time ago and drives me crazy as I don't want that. > > So, yeah, that's the reason. I don't think there was ever a chance we > could ever hope to modify user's components file

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Hornstein
>I have a slightly modified version that removes the default Fcc stuff that was >added some time ago and drives me crazy as I don't want that. So, yeah, that's the reason. I don't think there was ever a chance we could ever hope to modify user's components files in a sane manner. The default one

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
David Levine writes: > Jon wrote: > > > Well, no. I did a "yum update" and things stopped working. I did > > not install from source. I would be unable to get any work done if > > I had to read the release notes on every package upgrade. > > I sympathize, but the diagnostic message that you go

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread David Levine
Jon wrote: > Well, no. I did a "yum update" and things stopped working. I did > not install from source. I would be unable to get any work done if > I had to read the release notes on every package upgrade. I sympathize, but the diagnostic message that you got seems sufficient to me. /usr/sha

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
Ken Hornstein writes: > >Jerrad Pierce writes: > >> It's not broken, read the diagnostics and follow the directions provided. > >> You have to supply a From now > > > >I would have expected the upgrade to install the appropriate components > >to not break things. > > That should have happened, act

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Jerrad Pierce writes: >> It's not broken, read the diagnostics and follow the directions provided. >> You have to supply a From now > >I would have expected the upgrade to install the appropriate components >to not break things. That should have happened, actually (and as far as I know, it does).

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
Ken Hornstein writes: > >When I try to send it from whatnow I get: > > > > post: message has no From: header > > post: See default components files for examples > > So ... you read the release notes, right? > > --Ken Well, no. I did a "yum update" and things stopped working. I did not

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Jerrad Pierce
>I would have expected the upgrade to install the appropriate components >to not break things. In which case it would likely break things in other ways, or not do the right thing for some individuals. Making specific changes to a template of unknown content is fraught with peril.

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread jon
Jerrad Pierce writes: > It's not broken, read the diagnostics and follow the directions provided. > You have to supply a From now I would have expected the upgrade to install the appropriate components to not break things. Jon ___ Nmh-workers mailing l

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Hornstein
>When I try to send it from whatnow I get: > > post: message has no From: header > post: See default components files for examples So ... you read the release notes, right? --Ken ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://l

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Jerrad Pierce
It's not broken, read the diagnostics and follow the directions provided. You have to supply a From now ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread David Levine
Jon wrote: > Just upgraded. Have a message that looks like this: > > To: gumby, djb > cc: > Fcc: ssc > Subject: Mucho Chango > X-MH-Attachment: /home/jon/cb/ssc/e2/embedded/io_board/ioboard.c > > OK, this still needs some inspection and testing

[Nmh-workers] new nmh broken?

2012-07-18 Thread Jon Steinhart
Just upgraded. Have a message that looks like this: To: gumby, djb cc: Fcc: ssc Subject: Mucho Chango X-MH-Attachment: /home/jon/cb/ssc/e2/embedded/io_board/ioboard.c OK, this still needs some inspection and testing but to use those