[Nmh-workers] Revert utmpx change?

2012-04-24 Thread anthonyjbentley
Hi, When I was upgrading the OpenBSD nmh package from 1.4 to 1.5rc1, the build errored out, because OpenBSD does not have utmpx.h. Speaking with other devs implies that this is unlikely to ever be supported on OpenBSD. Reverting 7ba29497ff3f164e2a507eda35e81f1cb0658c74 lets nmh build again on

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes: There are a large number of changes in this release; the release notes (see the NEWS file in the distribution) I got tired just reading the NEW FEATURES section. Norman Shapiro ___ Nmh-workers mailing list

Re: [Nmh-workers] Revert utmpx change?

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
When I was upgrading the OpenBSD nmh package from 1.4 to 1.5rc1, the build errored out, because OpenBSD does not have utmpx.h. Speaking with other devs implies that this is unlikely to ever be supported on OpenBSD. Seriously? What the hell? utmpx is part of POSIX; utmp is not. There was a

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes: Greetings all, I am pleased to announce the first release candidate (RC1) of nmh 1.5 is now available. You can find it for download here: INSTLLL says: For routine installation on popular platforms, the shell script in docs/contrib/build_nmh can be used

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
For routine installation on popular platforms, the shell script in docs/contrib/build_nmh can be used to guide you through configuration. It will then build and optionally (with -i) install in the configured location. I can't find a file named build_nmh anywhwere in the distribution.

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
I am pleased to announce the first release candidate (RC1) of nmh 1.5 is now available. Are requests for new feature, sans code. in order yet? Sure, go for it. Obviously no new features will be in 1.5, but I can't think of a reason to not talk about what comes next. --Ken

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread David Levine
Oliver wrote: I tried compiling and installing on Solaris. It all builds fine but I get the following message repeated a number of times: ./man/mh-chart-gen.sh: !: not found ! is not available in pure Bourne shell and should be avoided. There are several options, we could use: echo $i |

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
! is not available in pure Bourne shell and should be avoided. Minor nit: ! is in POSIX; the problem here is Solaris has an ancient sh implementation (isn't there a POSIX one in something like /usr/xpg4/bin ?). Same with -E for grep. I'm fine with workarounds for Solaris, but I'm wondering if we

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread David Levine
Ken wrote: Minor nit: ! is in POSIX; the problem here is Solaris has an ancient sh implementation (isn't there a POSIX one in something like /usr/xpg4/bin?). Same with -E for grep. I'm fine with workarounds for Solaris, but I'm wondering if we want to tackle this in a different way.

Re: [Nmh-workers] Revert utmpx change?

2012-04-24 Thread paul vixie
On 4/24/2012 2:13 PM, Ken Hornstein wrote: ... Googling utmpx OpenBSD ... yeah, okay, I guess I don't need to say anything more. Reverting 7ba29497ff3f164e2a507eda35e81f1cb0658c74 lets nmh build again on OpenBSD. Can this change be applied? I am reluctant to bring this code back, as it was

Re: [Nmh-workers] Feature Request: Comments in $HOME/.mh_profile

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
I and at least one other user -- and probably many others, have .mh_profile entries that we added years ago, for reasons now obscure and not remembered. There ought to be an easy way to incorporate comments in that file. As I read the man page, there is none provided. Yeah let me speak on

Re: [Nmh-workers] Feature Request: Comments in $HOME/.mh_profile

2012-04-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
My long standing work around for this, is to use the profile entry # As in #:# #: System wide variables Aliasfile: aliases Draft-Folder: drafts editor: emacs #:# #: Program defaults ... Works like a charm ___ Nmh-workers mailing list

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-04-24, at 9:21 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: Minor nit: ! is in POSIX; the problem here is Solaris has an ancient sh implementation (isn't there a POSIX one in something like /usr/xpg4/bin ?). Same with -E for grep. You cannot sanely use a Solaris system without putting /usr/xpg4/bin at

Re: [Nmh-workers] First release candidate for 1.5 now available

2012-04-24 Thread Ken Hornstein
You cannot sanely use a Solaris system without putting /usr/xpg4/bin at the front of your $PATH. If the auto* tools can arrange for this to happen in the appropriate places, they should. There is some stuff to do that already in Autotools. I know it will search /usr/xpg4/bin for the right grep

Re: [Nmh-workers] comp.mail.mh gateway?

2012-04-24 Thread Bill Wohler
Thanks, Jerry! My FAQ posts are on auto-pilot. I actually don't read Usenet any more either, but I do use Gnus to read gmane mailing lists (including gmane.mail.nmh.devel). JerryHeyman heym...@bellsouth.net writes: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:56:22 -0500, Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com wrote: I've

Re: [Nmh-workers] Feature Request: Comments in $HOME/.mh_profile

2012-04-24 Thread Bill Wohler
Me too: #: Variable Settings ... Maybe we should simply reserve # as a profile component and document #: as the .mh_profile comment character(s) rather than leave it as a puzzle. Earl Hood e...@earlhood.com writes: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:23 AM, norm wrote: I and at least one other

Re: [Nmh-workers] Feature Request: Comments in $HOME/.mh_profile

2012-04-24 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Maybe we should simply reserve # as a profile component and document #: as the .mh_profile comment character(s) rather than leave it as a puzzle. Makes sense to me. If documenting, point out that you cannot have blank lines, hence my use of #:# To separate blocks, although if someone were so

[Nmh-workers] Locking In Scripts and nmh Locking

2012-04-24 Thread norm
Is there a way that scripts can use locking compatibly with the locking used by the local nmh installation. If not there should be. If so, is it documented, if not it should be. Norman Shapiro 798 Barron Avenue Palo Alto CA 94306-3109 (650) 565-8215 n...@dad.org

Re: [Nmh-workers] Revert utmpx change?

2012-04-24 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Hi Ken, Ken Hornstein writes: I am reluctant to bring this code back, as it was messy. But ... let me offer a compromise. The code is only needed by rcvtty (will output a message to your terminal) and slocal (actually, looking at slocal ... that usage seems to be undocumented; anyone know what