Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes: - Jerry Peek, this is for you, assuming you're still around. The MH/nmh book is a great resource, but it hasn't been updated in a while. Would you be interested in updating some stuff for some of the newer nmh features? I'm thinking specifically of the

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-06 Thread Michael Richardson
Ken == Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com writes: Ken - I think we have enough new stuff that a new release based on Ken the tip of master is worthwhile. Let's call it 1.5, since it Ken doesn't feel fresh enough to me to make it a 2.0. I'd rather Ken invest my energy in doing that

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-03, at 9:42 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I propose we have a new .mh_profile entry that is used as the default From: when one isn't supplied in a draft. Objections? I would rather we use the existing components framework to do this. Growing a new option is just bloat, IMO. Thus my

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Paul Vixie
On 2/3/2012 6:49 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 2012-02-03, at 9:42 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I propose we have a new .mh_profile entry that is used as the default From: when one isn't supplied in a draft. Objections? I would rather we use the existing components framework to do this.

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
I propose we have a new .mh_profile entry that is used as the default From: when one isn't supplied in a draft. Objections? I would rather we use the existing components framework to do this. Growing a new option is just bloat, IMO. Thus my comments a few weeks back about having the installer

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
i think that we should not emit a From: without an @FQDN, or fail to emit a From:. if the components file did not give us a From: then we should autogenerate From: `whoami`@`hostname` and let the gods sort it out. So that's what we _used_ to do. I kinda punted on that a bit. Turns out that

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-03, at 10:59 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I thought about this ... but that would mean we ditch the installed system components files completely, and it's not clear what we do for existing users. I would use the system-side components as the template to populate the user's components

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
I was under the vague impression that ORA gave Jerry back the book and Indeed, its now GPL: http://rand-mh.sourceforge.net/book/ ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
On 2012-02-03, at 10:59 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: I thought about this ... but that would mean we ditch the installed system components files completely, and it's not clear what we do for existing users. I would use the system-side components as the template to populate the user's components

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Paul Vixie
On 2/3/2012 7:19 PM, Ken Hornstein wrote: Now that I've thought about it some more and used the current code, I think the precedence should be (in order of higher precedence to lower precedence): 1) From: line in draft 2) Setting in .mh_profile 3) `whoami`@`hostname` The alternative was

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
Alright let me see if I've captured the consensus: - Make the default email address be (in decreasing precedence order) - A knob in .mh_profile (Local-Mailbox ?) - `whoami`@mts.localname - `whoami`@`hostname` - All drafts get run through mh-format - All default component files now

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
- If there is a draft without a From that is fed to post, it will error erp? What sort from From is it going to require? I currently use From: me And it DWIM, while giving me the ability to quickly change it in a draft to another of my identities

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
- If there is a draft without a From that is fed to post, it will error erp? What sort from From is it going to require? I currently use From: me No requirements other than it exists and is parsable by nmh (any From: line that exists today has to be parsable by nmh). If you just have that,

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread epg
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Ken Hornstein k...@pobox.com wrote:  realized that we should deal better with this.  I propose we have  a new .mh_profile entry that is used as the default From: when one  isn't supplied in a draft.  Objections? Isn't that what the (now poorly named) Signature

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.5 release, minor nits, and an open call to Jerry Peek

2012-02-03 Thread Ken Hornstein
Isn't that what the (now poorly named) Signature mh_profile entry does? I used to use it for this purpose, anyway. All that Signature does is serve as a replacement for the GCOS field from /etc/passwd. mh-profile(5) specifically says to not put an address in there. So we need something else.