[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-06 Thread Richard Bennett
It's not clear how the endpoint influences control over routing unless it's doing some form of source routing, which is certainly not commonplace. It appears to me that the ITXC system chooses routes from some place upstream from the actual endpoint, and thus is actually an enrichment of the

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-05 Thread Tom Evslin
: The Interpreter's Tale -Original Message- From: Bob Frankston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:40 PM To: 'Fred Reimer'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Cc: Tom Evslin Subject: RE: [ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP) I'm cc'ing Tom Evslin so he can

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Frankston
'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP) Hi: Without belaboring the point, our experience at ITXC was that the necessary QoS for VoIP could be provided from the edge. We didn't need MPLS or the like but we did need to have the kind of influence

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Fred Reimer
Glass Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:04 PM To: Bob Frankston; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP) At 12:28 PM 2/29/2008, Bob Frankston wrote: If you require QoS for VoIP then you have the PSTN not the Internet. Period. QoS was (and is) part

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Kevin McArthur
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Glass Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:04 PM To: Bob Frankston; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP) At 12:28 PM 2/29/2008, Bob Frankston wrote: If you require QoS for VoIP

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Fred Reimer
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Glass Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:04 PM To: Bob Frankston; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP) At 12:28 PM 2/29/2008, Bob Frankston wrote: If you require QoS for VoIP

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-02-29 Thread Brett Glass
At 12:28 PM 2/29/2008, Bob Frankston wrote: If you require QoS for VoIP then you have the PSTN not the Internet. Period. QoS was (and is) part of the original design of the Internet. Note the Type of Service fields in both IPv4 and IPv6, as well as the push bit. (Interestingly, there's no shove