[ NNSquad ] Re: FCC paths to Internet network management? ( from IP )

2008-03-02 Thread Roy J. Tellason
[ I really don't want to start another round of tit-for-tat arguments regarding the portion of the message text below that we've discussed earlier. But toward the end of this message a new topic is broached that I don't believe we've talked about directly on this list yet.

[ NNSquad ] Re: FCC paths to Internet network management? (from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Brett Glass
At 10:41 AM 3/2/2008, Seth Johnson wrote: Despite the fact that Vint works for them. I'd like to see someone explain how differentiation based on types of applications would not end net neutrality. I will explain this for you, and I will try to put it very simply. Network Neutrality simply

[ NNSquad ] Re: FCC paths to Internet network management? ( from IP )

2008-03-02 Thread Brett Glass
At 02:53 PM 3/2/2008, Roy J. Tellason wrote: They're running something that looks at the content of my emails and bounces it if it doesn't like _some URLs_ that I have in it? WTF? This is quite common, actually. RHSBLs are generally very good ways of detecting spam zombies -- better than, for

[ NNSquad ] Re: FCC paths to Internet network management? ( from IP )

2008-03-02 Thread John Meissen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Verizon, for some reason, decided that it didn't like one of them You're misreading the error message: Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:   Recipient address: (Snipped for privacy)   Reason: SMTP transmission failure has occurred  

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Fred Reimer
Hmm. I have to agree with Brett on most of his comments. QoS is definitely part of the IETF RFC's. And QoS is definitely required for VoIP, in any network, for it to work properly. The problem is that there is no common global, or for that matter national, agreement as to how classifications

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2008-03-02 Thread Fred Reimer
Well, it seems that I have predictive abilities... See this article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080227-eu-may-begin-treating-net-censorship-as-a-trade-barrier.html The European Parliament recently passed a proposal to treat Internet censorship by repressive regimes as a trade

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Kevin McArthur
Fred, I have to take exception to your suggestion that QoS is definitely required for proper VoIP operation. Most VoIP today operates without any specific QoS support -- even ISPs that offer this 'thinly veiled VoIP tax' have carried VoIP successfully without traffic management for years. I

[ NNSquad ] Re: INTELLIGENT network management? (far from IP)

2008-03-02 Thread Fred Reimer
My specialty is not voice, but I do know QoS and the company I work for is one of the top technically as far as VoIP capabilities. However, I am not a spokesperson for my company and anything I contribute to NNSquad is my personal opinion and does not reflect the opinion of my company. With