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   1. Copy+Paste Encoding Bug ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   2. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Auto-scrolling when
      saving... Why? (SourceForge.net)
   3. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Auto-scrolling when
      saving... Why? (SourceForge.net)
   4. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Auto-update from        4.8.5 --> current,
      soon? (SourceForge.net)
   5. [notepad-plus - Help] Switch back to last active tab
      (SourceForge.net)
   6. [notepad-plus - Help] Notepad++ Search    capabilities
      (SourceForge.net)
   7. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Feature      request : Copy
      All. (SourceForge.net)
   8. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: [Feature     Request]Project
      (SourceForge.net)
   9. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: [4.8.2/XP] Crash        recovery; CTRL-F4
      (SourceForge.net)
  10. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: [4.8.2/XP] Crash        recovery; CTRL-F4
      (SourceForge.net)
  11. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: simple but very important features
      missin (SourceForge.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:34:04 +0800
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] Copy+Paste Encoding Bug
To: notepad-plus-plus@lists.sourceforge.net
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Hi,

Wanted to report a bug with copy+paste.  When copying utf-8 to Notepad++ where 
I have specified the encoding of the Notepad++ document to be utf-8, the text 
is pasted in as my local encoding (cp950/big5) instead and does not display 
correctly.

To replicate this bug, set a document to utf-8.  You may copy and paste from 
here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

All Chinese characters are shown with their cp950/big5 encodings instead of as 
characters.  Just to be sure, I did check to make sure my font is capable of 
displaying Chinese, though the fact that the big5 encoding is shown in a utf-8 
document is a giveaway that it isn't a font problem.

I did see a rich text copy+paste bug, but don't know if it's related.

I tested to make sure it isn't a Firefox 3 bug.  Copy and paste works correctly 
in both MS Word 2007 and Notepad2.

Thanks for a great open source program.

Best,
James



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 02:54:05 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Auto-scrolling when saving... Why?
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By: donho

It doesn't do it to me with v4.9.2.
Are you sure it's not your installed plugins which do that?

Don

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 03:09:59 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Auto-scrolling when saving... Why?
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By: dv__

Oops, you are right. It was caused by a test version of new plugin which was
placed some time ago in my just updated Notepad++'s folder. I've myself 
forgotten
about the principle of clear installation of new version... Sorry.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 03:42:25 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Auto-update
        from    4.8.5 --> current, soon?
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By: sjowhan

Well, why is there an autoupdate-option when we have to use the manually 
download?
Afaik is the autoupdate a great option, but it has to work before we can use
it :).

If Don get this working, i'll be happy too.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 03:52:29 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] Switch back to last
        active tab
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By: thedutchjewel

I usually have about ten files opened in NPP, so I have 10 tabs open. When 
working
in say the third tabbed file and switch to another Windows task, and back again
to NPP with Atl+Tab, NPP default shows the last opened tab (my tenth in this
example), instead of the last active one (the third). Can this behaviour be
changed?

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 04:49:22 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] Notepad++ Search
        capabilities
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By: dekela

Hi.

First of all I would like to say that the application is one of the best I have
used and I really appreciated your hard work on it.

My primary use of Notepadd++ is for Log files investigation.
As such, I am looking for a way to search for a word/pattern and get all the
results in the search results window. This enables an easy view of the results
and a simple double click takes me to the line.

This feature exists in when selecting search in all open documents.
Do you think there is a way to add this for every search? even in a single 
document
or per document?

Maybe this feature already exists but I couldn't find a way to enable it.

Thanks,

Dekel

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 05:39:26 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Feature request : Copy All.
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By: im2crazy4u

That would be a non-standard method to achieve an already available goal.

>From the menus:
1. Edit -> Select All
2. Edit -> Copy

Or

Keyboard shortcuts:
1. CTRL+A and CTRL+C

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 05:42:12 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        [Feature        Request]Project
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By: im2crazy4u

To be blunt, use Visual Studio if you want this.

It has been said before and will be said again, NotePad++ is a text editor and
not a development environment. IDE's server this type of purpose, while text
editors are useful for editing text.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 05:45:31 -0700
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: [4.8.2/XP]
        Crash   recovery; CTRL-F4
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By: harrybharry

1. You may be interested in an autosave plugin:
http://fstellari.googlepages.com/npp_plugins
It probably doesnt work on "new ##" tabs though. Right now Notepad++ doesnt
recover well from crashes

2. Close current document is currently mapped to Ctrl-W, use the shortcutmapper
if you want it to be Ctrl-F4

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 06:17:03 -0700
From: "SourceForge.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: [4.8.2/XP]
        Crash   recovery; CTRL-F4
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By: fartinguncle

> 2. Close current document is currently mapped to Ctrl-W, 
> use the shortcutmapper if you want it to be Ctrl-F4

The Microsoft keyboard guidelines [1] specify Ctrl-F4 for this functionality.
Ctrl-W is a very common alternative, but this is not part of the recommendation.
If it can only be one of the two then Ctrl-F4 would be a better default, but
ideally it would be mapped to both keys.

- Mark

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms971323.aspx#atg_keyboardshortcuts_
windows_shortcut_keys

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 06:32:57 -0700
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: simple but very
        important features missin
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>>>> but certainly the impression given is that the NPP devs are pretty
intolerant
>>>> of any requests for help, or suggestions for improvements.  
>>> 
>>> As the main developer and project manager of this open source project,  
>>> I try to get some funs from this project, but it doesn't mean that I don't
>>> consider the users' needs - if the feature request is reasonable.  
>>
>> Hi Don - I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way, but that point wasn't aimed
>> at you. I wasn't saying that the problem lay in the developer's attitude.
> 
> What I saw is this phrase :
> "NPP devs are pretty intolerant of any requests for help, or suggestions for
> improvements."
> That makes me take this way.

OK, but what I actually said was it '*the impression given* is that the NPP
devs are...' meaning that these kind of posts reflect badly on the developers,
as they appear (particularly the anonymous ones) to be 'official' responses.
If you choose to take umbrage at this comment that was not aimed as a criticism
of you then that's your prerogative, but that wasn't the intent.


>> The problem is rather that the people who respond negatively to the support
>> requests (particularly from new users) tend to speak authoritatively and 
>> anonymously and so no-one has any idea whether it is a dev speaking, or just
>> an ordinary member of the community.
> 
> I ensure you that I (and the Notepad++ members) don't bother to answer if I
> don't want to. I could be rude sometimes, but only to the rude posts.
>
>> And that, I think, is the problem. It seems like some of the 'other
volunteers'
>> are responding very negatively to postings, and this does not show the 
>> product
>> in a good light. I have been involved in many similar communities, and
certainly
>> the impression I get after having been on this mailing list for about 10
months
>> is that this is the rudest community I have ever been a part of, which is
a shame.
>> I'm not sure about the best way of dealing with this,
>> except to request a bit more civility and perhaps asking people to login
rather
>> than to post anonymously.
> 
> I have noticed that, and I tried to correct this unfriendly attitude
(by removing
> the rude and unconstructive answer).
> Sourceforge's forum system does not allow to banner specific user, otherwise
> I'll apply it.
> What I can do is remove all such unfriendly answer, and if necessary, banner
> the specific user manually if such post comes from the same user.

That sounds like a very sensible approach.

>> Therefore, my suggestions to volunteers who provide help on this forum: 
>> * It is better to not reply than to reply in an unfriendly and unhelpful way
>> (as Don has said himself before now).
>> * It is even better to point the poster to a useful resource - and this
should
>> be the wiki!
> 
> Agree.
> 
>> Don - the one thing you could do to make this a lot easier is to make the
>> wiki a lot more prominent.
>> This is the first time I've known about it's existence and I've been quietly
>> involved in this forum for quite a while!
> 
> The wiki page is pointed from Notepad++ web page FAQ->General. I'll make it
> accessible from the Links page.
> 

Cool.  It might also be worth linking from the main page somewhere.  Also -
are there any plans to move the current FAQ to the wiki?  Some of the FAQ pages
are there, but others point to static pages on the NP++ site.

- Mark


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