Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013, Jesse Rosenthal wrote: > The current behavior can be annoying, but the old behavior could make > the MUA quite unusable in a number of circumstances. (And yes, an MUA > that fails on reading mail from senders with bad emailing practices is > unusable for me.) I wouldn't have

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> > I think there should be a w

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jesse Rosenthal wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: >> I think it's actually worse than what your example demonstrates. It's >> the subject of the newest/oldest *matching* message that gets used. In >> your example, the first/last messages in the thread apparently match >

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jesse Rosenthal
Jani Nikula writes: > I think it's actually worse than what your example demonstrates. It's > the subject of the newest/oldest *matching* message that gets used. In > your example, the first/last messages in the thread apparently match > your query. The behavior is there because subjects frequent

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 11/02/2013 09:08 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Either way this doesn't make any sense to me. Each thread has a single origin > mail, why would anybody would like to show a message other than that while > displaying the summary of the tread? Even more, why isn't there an option to > fetch that in

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 11/02/2013 09:08 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> Either way this doesn't make any sense to me. Each thread has a single >> origin >> mail, why would anybody would like to show a message other than that while >> displaying the summar

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, irrespective of t

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jesse Rosenthal wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: >> I think it's actually worse than what your example demonstrates. It's >> the subject of the newest/oldest *matching* message that gets used. In >> your example, the first/last messages in the thread apparently match >

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013, Jesse Rosenthal wrote: > The current behavior can be annoying, but the old behavior could make > the MUA quite unusable in a number of circumstances. (And yes, an MUA > that fails on reading mail from senders with bad emailing practices is > unusable for me.) I wouldn't have

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jesse Rosenthal
Jani Nikula writes: > I think it's actually worse than what your example demonstrates. It's > the subject of the newest/oldest *matching* message that gets used. In > your example, the first/last messages in the thread apparently match > your query. The behavior is there because subjects frequent

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> > I think there should be a way to

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 11/02/2013 09:08 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> Either way this doesn't make any sense to me. Each thread has a single >> origin >> mail, why would anybody would like to show a message other than that while >> displaying the summar

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, irrespective of t

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-03 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 11/02/2013 09:08 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: Either way this doesn't make any sense to me. Each thread has a single origin mail, why would anybody would like to show a message other than that while displaying the summary of the tread? Even more, why isn't there an option to fetch that informat

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >>> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, >>> irrespective of the search order. >> >> Largely agreed. It's just that nobod

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > I often wondered why when browsing threads, I often see a message that doesn't > describe at all the thread, for example: > > notmuch search ... > thread:826a 18 mins. ago [45/45] Felipe Contreras; [PATCH/TEST > 44/44] > > I can rever

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, >> irrespective of the search order. > > Largely agreed. It's just that nobody's gotten around to doing this > yet. At the cli leve

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >>> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, >>> irrespective of the search order. >> >> Largely agreed. It's just that nobod

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> I think there should be a way to get the root mail of a thread, >> irrespective of the search order. > > Largely agreed. It's just that nobody's gotten around to doing this > yet. At the cli leve

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, I often wondered why when browsing threads, I often see a message that doesn't describe at all the thread, for example: notmuch search ... thread:826a 18 mins. ago [45/45] Felipe Contreras; [PATCH/TEST 44/44] I can reverse the order of the search: notmuch search --sort=ol

Re: Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > I often wondered why when browsing threads, I often see a message that doesn't > describe at all the thread, for example: > > notmuch search ... > thread:826a 18 mins. ago [45/45] Felipe Contreras; [PATCH/TEST > 44/44] > > I can rever

Getting the right root mail of the thread

2013-11-02 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, I often wondered why when browsing threads, I often see a message that doesn't describe at all the thread, for example: notmuch search ... thread:826a 18 mins. ago [45/45] Felipe Contreras; [PATCH/TEST 44/44] I can reverse the order of the search: notmuch search --sort=ol