Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
On Mon, Sep 13 2021, Charles-André Roy wrote: > Hello David, > > I have removed and purged the notmuch-emacs package. > > elpa-notmuch/stable,now 0.31.4-2 was already installed. > > On the notmuchmail.org Web site, I looked at the pages "Notmuch Emacs > Interface" and "Tips and Tricks". The only configuration file mentioned > on these pages is ~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el > > And I agree with you that the backtrace reports a Lisp reading error. I > created an empty ~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el, tried to start Notmuch > and it WORKED. I could see the beautiful notmuch-hello screen again. > > I wanted to make sure it was a steady fix. I closed all my opened Emacs > and started them again. On the first try I got the same *Backtrace*. > On the second try it worked. So the fix does not seem too stable. > > In one session, does Notmuch en Emacs first try to look at the file in > ~/. On another try, does it skip that step and go directly to the > programme ? That would also explain why some time ago a small > change in the file made a difference. The change in the file would not have > made the difference but > the second try would. I wonder ? > > I am wondering also how come I did not have a the > ~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el Notmuch is trying to read. > > In trying to solve the problem I deleted the ~/.notmuch-config file. > Notmuch produced the message that it was not setup. I did the command > "notmuch setup" in a terminal. It created again the config file that > starts with the character # and placed it in ~/. > > C-h a did not show any setup command inside Emacs, how is the > notmuch-config.el file created and what goes in it ? Is it what I put > about Notmuch in my .emacs file ? The notmuch-config.el file is created by user; if it exists, notmuch emacs mua loads it. The following defines it (no notmuch.el) (defcustom notmuch-init-file (locate-user-emacs-file "notmuch-config") ...) In this case (locate-user-emacs-file new-file) tries to look notmuch-config files in user-emacs-directory (being ~/.emacs.d by default). As an example: when I tried: (locate-user-emacs-file ".zshrc") emacs printed "~/.emacs.d/.zshrc". ... anyway, whatever the user-emacs-directory is defined the combination of it and "notmuch-config" cannot resolve to ~/.notmuch-config... (I tried: (setq user-emacs-directory ".") (locate-user-emacs-file "zshrc") output was "~/zshrc" -- no . there) At the end of notmuch.el notmuch-config.el is attempted to be read with (when init-file-user ; don't load init file if the -q option was used. (load notmuch-init-file t t nil t)) load defined as: (load FILE NOERROR NOMESSAGE NOSUFFIX MUST-SUFFIX) which, if I understand(*) correctly, wants the .el or .elc suffix (*) and understood correctly, 2014-03-29 when I added this feature The purpose of notmuch-config.el is to put notmuch emacs configuration so that only those instances of emacs that load notmuch will configure. Also, notmuch-config.el is loaded *after* notmuch is loaded (so one can e.g. overwrite functions (which I have done...)). Tomi > > Thank you ! > > > Charles ___ notmuch mailing list -- notmuch@notmuchmail.org To unsubscribe send an email to notmuch-le...@notmuchmail.org
Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
Hello David,
I have removed and purged the notmuch-emacs package.
elpa-notmuch/stable,now 0.31.4-2 was already installed.
On the notmuchmail.org Web site, I looked at the pages "Notmuch Emacs
Interface" and "Tips and Tricks". The only configuration file mentioned
on these pages is ~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el
And I agree with you that the backtrace reports a Lisp reading error. I
created an empty ~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el, tried to start Notmuch
and it WORKED. I could see the beautiful notmuch-hello screen again.
I wanted to make sure it was a steady fix. I closed all my opened Emacs
and started them again. On the first try I got the same *Backtrace*.
On the second try it worked. So the fix does not seem too stable.
In one session, does Notmuch en Emacs first try to look at the file in
~/. On another try, does it skip that step and go directly to the
programme ? That would also explain why some time ago a small
change in the file made a difference. The change in the file would not have
made the difference but
the second try would. I wonder ?
I am wondering also how come I did not have a the
~/.emacs.d/notmuch-config.el Notmuch is trying to read.
In trying to solve the problem I deleted the ~/.notmuch-config file.
Notmuch produced the message that it was not setup. I did the command
"notmuch setup" in a terminal. It created again the config file that
starts with the character # and placed it in ~/.
C-h a did not show any setup command inside Emacs, how is the
notmuch-config.el file created and what goes in it ? Is it what I put
about Notmuch in my .emacs file ?
Thank you !
Charles
David Bremner (Today 12:50) (inbox unread)
Subject: Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
From: David Bremner
To: Charles-André Roy
Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 13:50:22 -0300
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Charles-André Roy writes:
> Hello David,
>
> Thank you for your responses !
>
> 1. I looked at the load-path variable and the $HOME directory per se is
> not in it. There are many directories in $HOME/.emacs.d leading to
> packages I have installed.
>
> 2. I installed notmuch-emacs through the Debian packages
> apt list gives notmuch-emacs/now 0.28.4-1 all [installé, local]
That is quite old (from buster I guess?). Can you try elpa-notmuch 0.31.4-2
from bullseye? That version you have of notmuch-emacs should be a dummy package
depending on elpa-notmuch, so safe to remove.
> apt list also gives notmuch/stable,now 0.31.4-2 amd64 [installé]
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Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
Charles-André Roy writes: > Hello David, > > Thank you for your responses ! > > 1. I looked at the load-path variable and the $HOME directory per se is > not in it. There are many directories in $HOME/.emacs.d leading to > packages I have installed. > > 2. I installed notmuch-emacs through the Debian packages > apt list gives notmuch-emacs/now 0.28.4-1 all [installé, local] That is quite old (from buster I guess?). Can you try elpa-notmuch 0.31.4-2 from bullseye? That version you have of notmuch-emacs should be a dummy package depending on elpa-notmuch, so safe to remove. > apt list also gives notmuch/stable,now 0.31.4-2 amd64 [installé] ___ notmuch mailing list -- notmuch@notmuchmail.org To unsubscribe send an email to notmuch-le...@notmuchmail.org
Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
Hello David,
Thank you for your responses !
1. I looked at the load-path variable and the $HOME directory per se is
not in it. There are many directories in $HOME/.emacs.d leading to
packages I have installed.
2. I installed notmuch-emacs through the Debian packages
apt list gives notmuch-emacs/now 0.28.4-1 all [installé, local]
apt list also gives notmuch/stable,now 0.31.4-2 amd64 [installé]
3. After an updatedb I did a locate command and there is no
.notmuch-config.el file on my system.
4. Here is the backtrace of the M-notmuch command with smex turned off.
It is shorter.
==
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
read(#)
eval-buffer(# nil "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" nil t) ;
Reading at buffer position 2
load-with-code-conversion("/home/charles/.notmuch-config"
"/home/charles/.notmuch-config" t t)
load("~/.notmuch-config" t t nil t)
byte-code("\303\20\304\305!\210\11\203\22\0\306\n\307\211\310\307%\210\310\207"
[mail-user-agent init-file-user notmuch-init-file notmuch-user-agent provide
notmuch load t nil] 6)
autoload-do-load((autoload "notmuch" "notmuch mail" t nil) notmuch)
command-execute(notmuch record)
execute-extended-command(nil "notmuch" "notmuch")
funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "notmuch" "notmuch")
call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
command-execute(execute-extended-command)
==
Regards,
Charles
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:51:04 -0300
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David Bremner writes:
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
>> read(#)
>> eval-buffer(# nil "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" nil t)
>> ; Reading at buffer position 2
>> load-with-code-conversion("/home/charles/.notmuch-config"
>> "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" t t)
>> load("~/.notmuch-config" t t nil t)
>
> The emacs function load is for lisp files. $HOME/.notmuch-config is an
> INI style config file, which does indeed have many '#' in it by
> default. Why emacs is trying to run .notmuch-config as lisp is currently
> a mystery to me.
Oh, I might know what is happening. notmuch-emacs is trying to load
.notmuch-config.el, and you (maybe?) have $HOME in your emacs load-path.
I guess I would pretty strongly recommmend not having $HOME in your
emacs load-path (at least I just end up with random files in my $HOME).
If it's important to you to have $HOME in your load-path, you can use
the XDG location for your config file: put it in
$HOME/.config/notmuch/default/config.
d
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Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
David Bremner writes:
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
>> read(#)
>> eval-buffer(# nil "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" nil t)
>> ; Reading at buffer position 2
>> load-with-code-conversion("/home/charles/.notmuch-config"
>> "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" t t)
>> load("~/.notmuch-config" t t nil t)
>
> The emacs function load is for lisp files. $HOME/.notmuch-config is an
> INI style config file, which does indeed have many '#' in it by
> default. Why emacs is trying to run .notmuch-config as lisp is currently
> a mystery to me.
Oh, I might know what is happening. notmuch-emacs is trying to load
.notmuch-config.el, and you (maybe?) have $HOME in your emacs load-path.
I guess I would pretty strongly recommmend not having $HOME in your
emacs load-path (at least I just end up with random files in my $HOME).
If it's important to you to have $HOME in your load-path, you can use
the XDG location for your config file: put it in
$HOME/.config/notmuch/default/config.
d
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Re: Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
Charles-André Roy writes:
> I am using Debian. I recently installed Bullseye with Emacs 27.1. Now
> I cannot start Notmuch in emacs anymore. I can download my mail and
> send them. The commands in the terminal work as usual.
How is notmuch installed? Have you installed both CLI and emacs
front-end from source?
> I also have a problem with "cl library deprecated" but judging from my
> searches on the Web this would be a different issue.
I don't think those messages are notmuch related, since (current)
notmuch uses cl the "modern" way by requiring cl-lib. One possibility is
old .elc files.
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
> read(#)
> eval-buffer(# nil "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" nil t) ;
> Reading at buffer position 2
> load-with-code-conversion("/home/charles/.notmuch-config"
> "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" t t)
> load("~/.notmuch-config" t t nil t)
The emacs function load is for lisp files. $HOME/.notmuch-config is an
INI style config file, which does indeed have many '#' in it by
default. Why emacs is trying to run .notmuch-config as lisp is currently
a mystery to me.
>
> byte-code("\303\20\304\305!\210\11\203\22\0\306\n\307\211\310\307%\210\310\207"
> [mail-user-agent init-file-user notmuch-init-file notmuch-user-agent provide
> notmuch load t nil] 6)
> autoload-do-load((autoload "notmuch" "notmuch mail" t nil) notmuch)
> command-execute(notmuch record)
> execute-extended-command(nil "notmuch")
> smex-read-and-run(("notmuch" "byte-compile-file" "package-delete"
> "list-packages" "man" "shell" "package-list-packages" "eshell" "nomPrenom"
> "spam" "battery" "olivetti-mode" "lbdb" "locate" "widen" "replace-string"
> "info" "emojify-mode" "count-matches" "séparateur" "eww" "calendar"
> "query-replace" "emms" "Info-menu" "now" "org-sort" "goto-char"
> "lisp-interaction-mode" "car--nettoyerFicheCarnetAdresses" "abbrev-mode"
> "sunrise-sunset" "insert-kbd-macro" "tramp-unload-tramp"
> "pdf-tools-customize" "org-element-update-syntax" "customize" "suiviPortions"
> "package-autoremove" "transient-mark-mode" "variable-pitch-mode" "term"
> "dired" "compile" "bookmark-set" "lunar-phases" "bookmark-save"
> "epa-list-keys" "2C-two-columns" "pdf-tools-help" ...))
> smex()
> funcall-interactively(smex)
> call-interactively(smex nil nil)
> command-execute(smex)
To narrow things down, can you try without smex? It's probably not the
issue, but it might simplify the backtrace.
David
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Cannot Start Notmuch (invalid-read-syntax "#")
Hi,
I am using Debian. I recently installed Bullseye with Emacs 27.1. Now
I cannot start Notmuch in emacs anymore. I can download my mail and
send them. The commands in the terminal work as usual.
At first I would open the .notmuch-config file and make a little change
in the buffer than cancel that change and save the file and Notmuch
would start. Now it does not start anymore.
I also have a problem with "cl library deprecated" but judging from my
searches on the Web this would be a different issue.
I tried changing the coding system of .notmuch-config but that did not
change the situation.
In my .emacs file I moved up the line
(autoload 'notmuch "notmuch" "notmuch mail" t)
close to the beginning but there was no change.
Any suggestions ?
Charles
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
read(#)
eval-buffer(# nil "/home/charles/.notmuch-config" nil t) ;
Reading at buffer position 2
load-with-code-conversion("/home/charles/.notmuch-config"
"/home/charles/.notmuch-config" t t)
load("~/.notmuch-config" t t nil t)
byte-code("\303\20\304\305!\210\11\203\22\0\306\n\307\211\310\307%\210\310\207"
[mail-user-agent init-file-user notmuch-init-file notmuch-user-agent provide
notmuch load t nil] 6)
autoload-do-load((autoload "notmuch" "notmuch mail" t nil) notmuch)
command-execute(notmuch record)
execute-extended-command(nil "notmuch")
smex-read-and-run(("notmuch" "byte-compile-file" "package-delete"
"list-packages" "man" "shell" "package-list-packages" "eshell" "nomPrenom"
"spam" "battery" "olivetti-mode" "lbdb" "locate" "widen" "replace-string"
"info" "emojify-mode" "count-matches" "séparateur" "eww" "calendar"
"query-replace" "emms" "Info-menu" "now" "org-sort" "goto-char"
"lisp-interaction-mode" "car--nettoyerFicheCarnetAdresses" "abbrev-mode"
"sunrise-sunset" "insert-kbd-macro" "tramp-unload-tramp" "pdf-tools-customize"
"org-element-update-syntax" "customize" "suiviPortions" "package-autoremove"
"transient-mark-mode" "variable-pitch-mode" "term" "dired" "compile"
"bookmark-set" "lunar-phases" "bookmark-save" "epa-list-keys" "2C-two-columns"
"pdf-tools-help" ...))
smex()
funcall-interactively(smex)
call-interactively(smex nil nil)
command-execute(smex)
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