Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
Tomas Nordin writes: > > I wonder if it is due to the w3m package or something else? > notmuch does not know anything about w3m, so I'm reasonably sure this is not a notmuch problem aside from the doc problem I already mentioned: we should probably say "if you don't use shr, you're on your own", in some slightly more friendly way. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
Andreas Kloeckner writes: > David Bremner writes: > >> Andreas Kloeckner writes: >> >>> Thanks for getting back to me! It turns out that your idea with the HTML >>> viewer (`mm-text-html-renderer`) was spot-on. I had that set to 'w3m', >>> and reverting it to the default (`shr`) not only renders faster and more >>> nicely, it also removes the undesired privacy problem of fetching remote >>> images. >>> >> >> Great. >> >> Dear Notmuch people, should we document this issue somehow? Maybe even >> try to detect it with customize? > > One thing I wanted to emphasize is that this issue, as far as I can > tell, is a regression. I don't quite know what versions, but I do know > that previously remote content was not fetched when viewing a message. I can join in that. I use w3m and it has a setting for this itself, `w3m-default-display-inline-images`, being nil by default, meaning do not show images. This is what I have. Still, after a rebuild of emacs I have the same issue (as OP) when rendering html inline using notmuch, images are downloaded and displayed. I /think/ it started after the rebuild of emacs, but I am not 100% sure this is the point of "regression", because I have also upgraded the w3m package at some point. However, the not showing of images work as expected during normal browsing of the internet with w3m. I wonder if it is due to the w3m package or something else? Best regards -- Tomas ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
Hi David, David Bremner writes: > Your interpretation of that variable sounds about right (fwiw, '.' > should work as well as '.*'). On the other hand when I view that message > with the default settings I don't see any images. You can duplicate my > experiment with > > 1) emacs -q > 2) M-x package-initialize > 3) M-x notmuch > > s subject:galerkin > > I suspect the outcome depends on the setting of html viewer, but please > let us know what you discover. Thanks for getting back to me! It turns out that your idea with the HTML viewer (`mm-text-html-renderer`) was spot-on. I had that set to 'w3m', and reverting it to the default (`shr`) not only renders faster and more nicely, it also removes the undesired privacy problem of fetching remote images. When the image loading happened, I had w3m 0.5.3-37 and w3m-el-snapshot 1.4.632+0.20190731-1 (both via Debian packages) installed. Thank you for your help! Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
David Bremner writes: > Andreas Kloeckner writes: > >> Thanks for getting back to me! It turns out that your idea with the HTML >> viewer (`mm-text-html-renderer`) was spot-on. I had that set to 'w3m', >> and reverting it to the default (`shr`) not only renders faster and more >> nicely, it also removes the undesired privacy problem of fetching remote >> images. >> > > Great. > > Dear Notmuch people, should we document this issue somehow? Maybe even > try to detect it with customize? One thing I wanted to emphasize is that this issue, as far as I can tell, is a regression. I don't quite know what versions, but I do know that previously remote content was not fetched when viewing a message. Once again thanks for your help, Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
On Thu 2019-08-08 09:45:06 -0300, David Bremner wrote: > I meant more specifically, the issue that this variable is only > effective if your html converter is the default shr Yes, this should be clearly documented, presumably in the documentation text about the variable. It would be even nicer if there was some way to alert the user that they have this set to a non-default value *and* they are not using shr, but i haven't thought through the emacs interface well enough to understand how one could offer such a warning in a usable, safe, non-annoying, and actionable fashion. --dkg signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
"Rollins, Jameson" writes: > On Wed, Aug 07 2019, David Bremner wrote: >> Dear Notmuch people, should we document this issue somehow? Maybe even >> try to detect it with customize? > > I would certainly appreciate some guarantee that my mail viewer was not > contacting the internet when I view mail. I'm not sure how that could > be accomplished though, without simply auditing all the relevant > components. I meant more specifically, the issue that this variable is only effective if your html converter is the default shr d ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
On Wed, Aug 07 2019, David Bremner wrote: > Dear Notmuch people, should we document this issue somehow? Maybe even > try to detect it with customize? I would certainly appreciate some guarantee that my mail viewer was not contacting the internet when I view mail. I'm not sure how that could be accomplished though, without simply auditing all the relevant components. jamie. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
Andreas Kloeckner writes: > Thanks for getting back to me! It turns out that your idea with the HTML > viewer (`mm-text-html-renderer`) was spot-on. I had that set to 'w3m', > and reverting it to the default (`shr`) not only renders faster and more > nicely, it also removes the undesired privacy problem of fetching remote > images. > Great. Dear Notmuch people, should we document this issue somehow? Maybe even try to detect it with customize? David ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Bug#934082: elpa-notmuch: Shows remote images even when requested not to
Andreas Kloeckner writes: > Package: elpa-notmuch > Version: 0.29.1-2 > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > With the specified version of the package, and emacs of the following > version: > > Versions of packages emacs25 depends on: > ii emacs-gtk 1:26.1+1-3.2 > > when I view the message given in this file: > > https://ssl.tiker.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/QyBrSP6Etn8rmGn > > notmuch requests and shows remote images (in this case, the Facebook and > Twitter icons) even despite the fact that I have the following > 'customize' setting active: > > Hide Notmuch Show Text/Html Blocked Images: Value Menu Regexp: .* > State : SAVED and set. >Remote images that have URLs matching this regexp will be blocked. > > which I understand as "no remote images should ever be loaded". > > I'd be much obliged for any help. Thanks! > > Andreas > Your interpretation of that variable sounds about right (fwiw, '.' should work as well as '.*'). On the other hand when I view that message with the default settings I don't see any images. You can duplicate my experiment with 1) emacs -q 2) M-x package-initialize 3) M-x notmuch s subject:galerkin I suspect the outcome depends on the setting of html viewer, but please let us know what you discover. All the best, David P.S. In case the URL is not durable, I'm attaching the message in question raw-msg.txt:2,S Description: Binary data ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
