Understanding the "replied" tag
Dear Suvayu and Austin, Thank you for your attempts to understand my goals. I apologize for the lack in the clarity of my previous messages. Thank you kindly for your persistence and thank you to Suvayu for suggestions on adding more information. I am indeed using mutt-kz, along with offlineimap, on Ubuntu 15.04. I have written the following information the other email thread I started (perhaps I should have added it as a reply here, but I thought it might be sufficiently a different topic). I will copy the information I gave there on my goal here: My goal is to do something like the following: notmuch search tag:reply-required and not tag:replied which was discussed here: http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/2010/002558.html However, instead of conditioning on tag:reply-required, I would like to look at this for a specific message. For example, if I write an important message, I can do the following: save the message id, and then in 5 days set a cron script to check whether my message was responded to. If it was not responded to I will take some action to notify myself (haven't decided what yet). It is the "If it was not responded to" part that this email thread is about. I am now realizing that I cannot use mutt's tag "replied" because I often send and read email from gmail or other IMap clients (e.g. phone). Because of this (I believe), the reply tag does not get set when it should (well not "should" but rather "when I want it to"). For example, I often have abc ->def -> ghi where the message def does not have the "replied" tag, even though it was replied to (ghi replied to it). I think the reason is what I suggested above. Yes, indeed Austin was correct about where my misunderstanding was. I do indeed want to see if *any* reply was to a certain message id, but the "replied" tag is apparently for my own replying. Because I cannot use the "replied" tag (unless I have misunderstood), I thought I could just check using the message id with 'notmuch search repliedto:', but Suvayu points out that searching for this is not supported. Kind regards, Xu On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Austin Clements wrote: > Hi Xu. I may be misunderstanding your email, but it sounds like you want to > know if a message has *any* reply message. That's not what the replied tag > indicates. The replied tag indicates that *you* have sent a reply to a > message. Mechanically, when you hit, say, r to start a reply and then send > that message, notmuch tags the message you hit r on as "replied". That's the > only time notmuch automatically sets this tag. > > On June 11, 2015 10:25:44 AM PDT, Xu Wang wrote: >>Dear all, >> >>First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >>has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >>it and to help others to know how to use it. >> >>I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >>using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >>for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >>there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >>display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >>sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >> >>I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >>no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >> >>The following returns true: >>notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >> >>So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >>saying "replied" thread is correct. >> >>What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >>misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >>correctly? >> >>Kind regards, >> >>Xu >>___ >>notmuch mailing list >>notmuch at notmuchmail.org >>http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch >
Understanding the "replied" tag
Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 02:44:46PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > Thank you. The problem in the end is that I would like 'notmuch new' > to not only schronize the 'reply' tag but to master handle the reply > tag because notmuch knows which messages have been replied to (because > it is aware of threads). Sorry, I have no idea what you are saying. It would help a lot if you explicitly state what you tried, what you expected, and what you saw. For example, you still haven't mentioned that you are using mutt-kz as your MUA. I know that because we had an earlier discussion on mutt-users. It is very hard to suggest something without knowing precisely what you tried. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
Dear Suvayu and Austin, Thank you for your attempts to understand my goals. I apologize for the lack in the clarity of my previous messages. Thank you kindly for your persistence and thank you to Suvayu for suggestions on adding more information. I am indeed using mutt-kz, along with offlineimap, on Ubuntu 15.04. I have written the following information the other email thread I started (perhaps I should have added it as a reply here, but I thought it might be sufficiently a different topic). I will copy the information I gave there on my goal here: My goal is to do something like the following: notmuch search tag:reply-required and not tag:replied which was discussed here: http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/2010/002558.html However, instead of conditioning on tag:reply-required, I would like to look at this for a specific message. For example, if I write an important message, I can do the following: save the message id, and then in 5 days set a cron script to check whether my message was responded to. If it was not responded to I will take some action to notify myself (haven't decided what yet). It is the "If it was not responded to" part that this email thread is about. I am now realizing that I cannot use mutt's tag "replied" because I often send and read email from gmail or other IMap clients (e.g. phone). Because of this (I believe), the reply tag does not get set when it should (well not "should" but rather "when I want it to"). For example, I often have abc ->def -> ghi where the message def does not have the "replied" tag, even though it was replied to (ghi replied to it). I think the reason is what I suggested above. Yes, indeed Austin was correct about where my misunderstanding was. I do indeed want to see if *any* reply was to a certain message id, but the "replied" tag is apparently for my own replying. Because I cannot use the "replied" tag (unless I have misunderstood), I thought I could just check using the message id with 'notmuch search repliedto:', but Suvayu points out that searching for this is not supported. Kind regards, Xu On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Austin Clements wrote: > Hi Xu. I may be misunderstanding your email, but it sounds like you want to > know if a message has *any* reply message. That's not what the replied tag > indicates. The replied tag indicates that *you* have sent a reply to a > message. Mechanically, when you hit, say, r to start a reply and then send > that message, notmuch tags the message you hit r on as "replied". That's the > only time notmuch automatically sets this tag. > > On June 11, 2015 10:25:44 AM PDT, Xu Wang wrote: >>Dear all, >> >>First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >>has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >>it and to help others to know how to use it. >> >>I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >>using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >>for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >>there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >>display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >>sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >> >>I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >>no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >> >>The following returns true: >>notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >> >>So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >>saying "replied" thread is correct. >> >>What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >>misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >>correctly? >> >>Kind regards, >> >>Xu >>___ >>notmuch mailing list >>notmuch@notmuchmail.org >>http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch > ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
Hi Xu. I may be misunderstanding your email, but it sounds like you want to know if a message has *any* reply message. That's not what the replied tag indicates. The replied tag indicates that *you* have sent a reply to a message. Mechanically, when you hit, say, r to start a reply and then send that message, notmuch tags the message you hit r on as "replied". That's the only time notmuch automatically sets this tag. On June 11, 2015 10:25:44 AM PDT, Xu Wang wrote: >Dear all, > >First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >it and to help others to know how to use it. > >I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). > >I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. > >The following returns true: >notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags > >So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >saying "replied" thread is correct. > >What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >correctly? > >Kind regards, > >Xu >___ >notmuch mailing list >notmuch@notmuchmail.org >http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
Hi Xu. I may be misunderstanding your email, but it sounds like you want to know if a message has *any* reply message. That's not what the replied tag indicates. The replied tag indicates that *you* have sent a reply to a message. Mechanically, when you hit, say, r to start a reply and then send that message, notmuch tags the message you hit r on as "replied". That's the only time notmuch automatically sets this tag. On June 11, 2015 10:25:44 AM PDT, Xu Wang wrote: >Dear all, > >First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >it and to help others to know how to use it. > >I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). > >I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. > >The following returns true: >notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags > >So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >saying "replied" thread is correct. > >What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >correctly? > >Kind regards, > >Xu >___ >notmuch mailing list >notmuch at notmuchmail.org >http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Xu Wang wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >>> has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >>> it and to help others to know how to use it. >>> >>> I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >>> using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >>> for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >>> there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >>> display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >>> sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >>> >>> I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >>> no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >>> >>> The following returns true: >>> notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >>> >>> So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >>> saying "replied" thread is correct. >>> >>> What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >>> misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >>> correctly? >> >> Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. >> >> First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This >> is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. >> >> Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending >> the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets >> synchronized to maildir flags. >> >> If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to >> add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. >> >> You might also find [2] relevant. >> >> BR, >> Jani. >> >> >> [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html >> [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ > > Thank you so much, Jani. This is very informative to me. I think I > have a good understanding now of what is going on. > > My question then is this: > > I trust notmuch more than mutt, because notmuch is aware of threads > and all mail boxes. Also note that I often use gmail web interface to > reply emails. > > Am I correct in the following: if notmuch wanted to, when I run > "notmuch new", notmuch has the information that it could > (theoretically) update and correct all of the "replied" tags. Is that > correct? If so, my next question is: why doesn't it do that? > > I think I'm close to getting notmuch intution on its goals. > > Kind regards, The following message is in response to Suvayu (I am now finally subscribed to the list so I will have no future problem): Thank you. The problem in the end is that I would like 'notmuch new' to not only schronize the 'reply' tag but to master handle the reply tag because notmuch knows which messages have been replied to (because it is aware of threads). Kind regards, Xu
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 02:44:46PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > Thank you. The problem in the end is that I would like 'notmuch new' > to not only schronize the 'reply' tag but to master handle the reply > tag because notmuch knows which messages have been replied to (because > it is aware of threads). Sorry, I have no idea what you are saying. It would help a lot if you explicitly state what you tried, what you expected, and what you saw. For example, you still haven't mentioned that you are using mutt-kz as your MUA. I know that because we had an earlier discussion on mutt-users. It is very hard to suggest something without knowing precisely what you tried. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Xu Wang wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >>> has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >>> it and to help others to know how to use it. >>> >>> I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >>> using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >>> for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >>> there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >>> display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >>> sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >>> >>> I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >>> no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >>> >>> The following returns true: >>> notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >>> >>> So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >>> saying "replied" thread is correct. >>> >>> What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >>> misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >>> correctly? >> >> Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. >> >> First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This >> is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. >> >> Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending >> the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets >> synchronized to maildir flags. >> >> If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to >> add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. >> >> You might also find [2] relevant. >> >> BR, >> Jani. >> >> >> [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html >> [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ > > Thank you so much, Jani. This is very informative to me. I think I > have a good understanding now of what is going on. > > My question then is this: > > I trust notmuch more than mutt, because notmuch is aware of threads > and all mail boxes. Also note that I often use gmail web interface to > reply emails. > > Am I correct in the following: if notmuch wanted to, when I run > "notmuch new", notmuch has the information that it could > (theoretically) update and correct all of the "replied" tags. Is that > correct? If so, my next question is: why doesn't it do that? > > I think I'm close to getting notmuch intution on its goals. > > Kind regards, The following message is in response to Suvayu (I am now finally subscribed to the list so I will have no future problem): Thank you. The problem in the end is that I would like 'notmuch new' to not only schronize the 'reply' tag but to master handle the reply tag because notmuch knows which messages have been replied to (because it is aware of threads). Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >> has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >> it and to help others to know how to use it. >> >> I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >> using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >> for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >> there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >> display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >> sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >> >> I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >> no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >> >> The following returns true: >> notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >> >> So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >> saying "replied" thread is correct. >> >> What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >> misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >> correctly? > > Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. > > First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This > is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. > > Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending > the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets > synchronized to maildir flags. > > If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to > add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. > > You might also find [2] relevant. > > BR, > Jani. > > > [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html > [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ Thank you so much, Jani. This is very informative to me. I think I have a good understanding now of what is going on. My question then is this: I trust notmuch more than mutt, because notmuch is aware of threads and all mail boxes. Also note that I often use gmail web interface to reply emails. Am I correct in the following: if notmuch wanted to, when I run "notmuch new", notmuch has the information that it could (theoretically) update and correct all of the "replied" tags. Is that correct? If so, my next question is: why doesn't it do that? I think I'm close to getting notmuch intution on its goals. Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:25:44PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. > using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check > for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when > there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread > display and checking the message that replied to the message to make > sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). You do not give enough details, but I would guess you are probably reading and replying emails from real maildirs in mutt-kz. The synchronising of notmuch tags and maildir flags happen correctly only when you read and reply from virtual folders. Of course they are synchronised again when `notmuch new' is run the next time. But until such time, the tags and flags will not be in sync, if you are using real folders instead of virtual folders. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: > Dear all, > > First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch > has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve > it and to help others to know how to use it. > > I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. > using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check > for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when > there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread > display and checking the message that replied to the message to make > sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). > > I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is > no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. > > The following returns true: > notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags > > So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not > saying "replied" thread is correct. > > What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I > misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags > correctly? Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets synchronized to maildir flags. If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. You might also find [2] relevant. BR, Jani. [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ > > Kind regards, > > Xu > ___ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch at notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch >> has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve >> it and to help others to know how to use it. >> >> I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. >> using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check >> for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when >> there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread >> display and checking the message that replied to the message to make >> sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). >> >> I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is >> no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. >> >> The following returns true: >> notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags >> >> So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not >> saying "replied" thread is correct. >> >> What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I >> misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags >> correctly? > > Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. > > First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This > is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. > > Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending > the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets > synchronized to maildir flags. > > If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to > add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. > > You might also find [2] relevant. > > BR, > Jani. > > > [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html > [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ Thank you so much, Jani. This is very informative to me. I think I have a good understanding now of what is going on. My question then is this: I trust notmuch more than mutt, because notmuch is aware of threads and all mail boxes. Also note that I often use gmail web interface to reply emails. Am I correct in the following: if notmuch wanted to, when I run "notmuch new", notmuch has the information that it could (theoretically) update and correct all of the "replied" tags. Is that correct? If so, my next question is: why doesn't it do that? I think I'm close to getting notmuch intution on its goals. Kind regards, Xu
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:25:44PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. > using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check > for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when > there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread > display and checking the message that replied to the message to make > sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). You do not give enough details, but I would guess you are probably reading and replying emails from real maildirs in mutt-kz. The synchronising of notmuch tags and maildir flags happen correctly only when you read and reply from virtual folders. Of course they are synchronised again when `notmuch new' is run the next time. But until such time, the tags and flags will not be in sync, if you are using real folders instead of virtual folders. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
Dear all, First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve it and to help others to know how to use it. I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread display and checking the message that replied to the message to make sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. The following returns true: notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not saying "replied" thread is correct. What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags correctly? Kind regards, Xu
Re: Understanding the "replied" tag
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Xu Wang wrote: > Dear all, > > First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch > has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve > it and to help others to know how to use it. > > I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. > using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check > for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when > there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread > display and checking the message that replied to the message to make > sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). > > I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is > no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. > > The following returns true: > notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags > > So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not > saying "replied" thread is correct. > > What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I > misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags > correctly? Notmuch deals with the "replied" tag in two ways. First, the tag is synchronized with the maildir flag R, both ways. This is the "R" in the filename after ":2,". See [1] for details. Second, the notmuch-emacs interface adds the "replied" tag upon sending the reply. You can customize this tag, but note that only "replied" gets synchronized to maildir flags. If you use a MUA that doesn't either add the R flag or call notmuch to add the "replied" tag, you'll lose this bit of information. You might also find [2] relevant. BR, Jani. [1] http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html [2] http://notmuchmail.org/special-tags/ > > Kind regards, > > Xu > ___ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Understanding the "replied" tag
Dear all, First, I am extremely excited to be a part of this list now. notmuch has really helped me. Thank you go all individuals working to improve it and to help others to know how to use it. I would really like to know if a message has been replied to (e.g. using a certain message id). It seems that all I need to do is check for the "replied" tag. But often this tag is not there, even when there has been a reply (I have confirmed this through the thread display and checking the message that replied to the message to make sure it indeed has header "replied-to:"). I have looked in mutt, and also I see many situations where there is no 'r' flag, especially for emails sent from me. The following returns true: notmuch config get maildir.synchronize_flags So at least both are giving same answer, but I'm not sure why not saying "replied" thread is correct. What is incorrect for my way of thinking about "replied"? Do I misunderstand what it is supposed to do or am I not updating the flags correctly? Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
