[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Quoting Kazuo Teramoto (2011-12-16 12:37:37)
>On 2011-12-16T08:28:37, Patrick Totzke wrote:
>>
>>Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?  Or can anybody
>>suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch installation
>>in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
>>
>
>I'm using Arch and I have debugging log. I'm using the 'testing' (a
>place where packages is put before entering the official repo).

Justus just confirmed that this logging issue also occurs on debian wheezy.
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156#issuecomment-3176618
I'm running ubuntu 11.04 (and see debug logs).

>But neither python2 or twisted is on it, so I have the usual packages.
I don't understand what you mean here.

>Patrick if you need help on installing Arch on a VM poke me on irc. I
>can create a virtualbox image for you.
Thanks. I will come back to this if i need to actually run Arch for debugging.
much appreciated.

/p



[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 11:28:37)
>Quoting Mark Foxwell (2011-12-16 10:05:12)
>>Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
>>>Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the 
>>>problems Philipp has?
>>>In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
>>>https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
>>>Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
>>>difficult..
>>
>>I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
>>space but no file created. 
>
>Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?
>Or can anybody suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch 
>installation in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
>/p

Maybe the easiest way is a live-CD, a normal Arch installation may take
a little if you do it the first time.
Live-CD versions for Arch come and go, so it's not that easy to find 
them, however, I dug some up:
http://archbang.org/
https://godane.wordpress.com/ ?

I hope you can just run the iso in some virtual machine. It's likely not
as up-to-date as the average arch users system, but I guess you could
update it.





[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On 2011-12-16T08:28:37, Patrick Totzke wrote:
>
>Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?  Or can anybody
>suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch installation
>in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
>

I'm using Arch and I have debugging log. I'm using the 'testing' (a
place where packages is put before entering the official repo).

But neither python2 or twisted is on it, so I have the usual packages.

Patrick if you need help on installing Arch on a VM poke me on irc. I
can create a virtualbox image for you.



[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Quoting Mark Foxwell (2011-12-16 10:05:12)
>Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
>>Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the 
>>problems Philipp has?
>>In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
>>https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
>>Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
>>difficult..
>
>I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
>space but no file created. 

Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?
Or can anybody suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch 
installation in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
/p



[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Foxwell
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
>Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the problems 
>Philipp has?
>In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
>https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
>Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
>difficult..

I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
space but no file created. 

However, I don't get any error messages when exiting.

My slight difference is that I'm running parabola (completely libre arch
linux) so my python2 package comes from parabola rather than arch. I
will investigate what the differences are.

>I'm totally surprised by Arch not shipping a default mailcap at all..

A default arch installation doesn't contain X let alone any programs for
viewing images, pdf etc. So shipping a default mailcap would not make
any sense nor could ever be workable. Arch isn't really a distro for
people who want things to 'just work' but more for tinkerers and those
that know what they want and how to do it. 

--
Mark



[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Hi Philipp,

Quoting Philipp ?berbacher (2011-12-14 22:30:22)
>I run Arch Linux. Here's some information for fellow Archers:
>PKGBUILD for alot-git: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54955
>Should work just fine. If you want to help debug alot, change
>_gitname=master to the name of the branch, build and install as usual.

Great! Thanks for this.
Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the problems 
Philipp has?
In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
difficult..

>Another little trap:
>Arch doesn't supply a mailcap file, alot needs it for all those funky
>html mails. As a solution until alot handles those mails better:

Well, it also makes sense to define some handlers for pdf/images and so on to 
be able to
easily open attachments. I consider mailcap the right way to do this (until 
someone comes
and shows me a better solution), so I don't plan on removing the necessity of 
the user
defining his mailcap. One would have to have one even for mutt. I'm
totally surprised by Arch not shipping a default mailcap at all..
I will add some info on mailcap to the FAQ.

Best,
/p



Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Hi Philipp,

Quoting Philipp Überbacher (2011-12-14 22:30:22)
I run Arch Linux. Here's some information for fellow Archers:
PKGBUILD for alot-git: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54955
Should work just fine. If you want to help debug alot, change
_gitname=master to the name of the branch, build and install as usual.

Great! Thanks for this.
Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the problems 
Philipp has?
In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
difficult..

Another little trap:
Arch doesn't supply a mailcap file, alot needs it for all those funky
html mails. As a solution until alot handles those mails better:

Well, it also makes sense to define some handlers for pdf/images and so on to 
be able to
easily open attachments. I consider mailcap the right way to do this (until 
someone comes
and shows me a better solution), so I don't plan on removing the necessity of 
the user
defining his mailcap. One would have to have one even for mutt. I'm
totally surprised by Arch not shipping a default mailcap at all..
I will add some info on mailcap to the FAQ.

Best,
/p

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Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Foxwell
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the problems 
Philipp has?
In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
difficult..

I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
space but no file created. 

However, I don't get any error messages when exiting.

My slight difference is that I'm running parabola (completely libre arch
linux) so my python2 package comes from parabola rather than arch. I
will investigate what the differences are.

I'm totally surprised by Arch not shipping a default mailcap at all..

A default arch installation doesn't contain X let alone any programs for
viewing images, pdf etc. So shipping a default mailcap would not make
any sense nor could ever be workable. Arch isn't really a distro for
people who want things to 'just work' but more for tinkerers and those
that know what they want and how to do it. 

--
Mark

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Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Quoting Mark Foxwell (2011-12-16 10:05:12)
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the 
problems Philipp has?
In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
difficult..

I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
space but no file created. 

Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?
Or can anybody suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch 
installation in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
/p

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Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 11:28:37)
Quoting Mark Foxwell (2011-12-16 10:05:12)
Quoting Patrick Totzke (2011-12-16 09:06:44)
Regarding your bug reports: Can anybody else running Arch confirm the 
problems Philipp has?
In particular that logging doesn't work and this issue:
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156 ? 
Because I don't know how to reproduce this and having no log makes debugging 
difficult..

I can confirm that I don't get any debug logging - have write perms and
space but no file created. 

Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?
Or can anybody suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch 
installation in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?
/p

Maybe the easiest way is a live-CD, a normal Arch installation may take
a little if you do it the first time.
Live-CD versions for Arch come and go, so it's not that easy to find 
them, however, I dug some up:
http://archbang.org/
https://godane.wordpress.com/ ?

I hope you can just run the iso in some virtual machine. It's likely not
as up-to-date as the average arch users system, but I guess you could
update it.



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Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On 2011-12-16T08:28:37, Patrick Totzke wrote:

Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?  Or can anybody
suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch installation
in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?


I'm using Arch and I have debugging log. I'm using the 'testing' (a
place where packages is put before entering the official repo).

But neither python2 or twisted is on it, so I have the usual packages.

Patrick if you need help on installing Arch on a VM poke me on irc. I
can create a virtualbox image for you.

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Re: [alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-16 Thread Patrick Totzke
Quoting Kazuo Teramoto (2011-12-16 12:37:37)
On 2011-12-16T08:28:37, Patrick Totzke wrote:

Hmm.. Is anybody using Arch willing to look into this?  Or can anybody
suggest a painless and quick way for me to set up an Arch installation
in a Virtualbox or so to be able to reproduce this?


I'm using Arch and I have debugging log. I'm using the 'testing' (a
place where packages is put before entering the official repo).

Justus just confirmed that this logging issue also occurs on debian wheezy.
https://github.com/pazz/alot/issues/156#issuecomment-3176618
I'm running ubuntu 11.04 (and see debug logs).

But neither python2 or twisted is on it, so I have the usual packages.
I don't understand what you mean here.

Patrick if you need help on installing Arch on a VM poke me on irc. I
can create a virtualbox image for you.
Thanks. I will come back to this if i need to actually run Arch for debugging.
much appreciated.

/p

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[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-14 Thread Philipp Überbacher

Hi there,
I'm a new notmuch/alot user, this is my first mail since I switched from
sup. Yes, switched. notmuch/alot works for me well enough now to be
usable.

I run Arch Linux. Here's some information for fellow Archers:
PKGBUILD for alot-git: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54955
Should work just fine. If you want to help debug alot, change
_gitname=master to the name of the branch, build and install as usual.

You should currently avoid the alot PKGBUILD from AUR, it also points to
git and has some other mistakes. I'll see to it that it gets deleted and
maybe put a PKGBUILD with the release-version into its place.

Another little trap:
Arch doesn't supply a mailcap file, alot needs it for all those funky
html mails. As a solution until alot handles those mails better:
create ~/.mailcap
put the following line into it:
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML
Text; nametemplate=%s.html

Hope that helps,
thanks Patrick for writing alot, fixing bugs and helping with the
config.

Regards,
Philipp




[alot] on Arch Linux

2011-12-14 Thread Philipp Überbacher

Hi there,
I'm a new notmuch/alot user, this is my first mail since I switched from
sup. Yes, switched. notmuch/alot works for me well enough now to be
usable.

I run Arch Linux. Here's some information for fellow Archers:
PKGBUILD for alot-git: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54955
Should work just fine. If you want to help debug alot, change
_gitname=master to the name of the branch, build and install as usual.

You should currently avoid the alot PKGBUILD from AUR, it also points to
git and has some other mistakes. I'll see to it that it gets deleted and
maybe put a PKGBUILD with the release-version into its place.

Another little trap:
Arch doesn't supply a mailcap file, alot needs it for all those funky
html mails. As a solution until alot handles those mails better:
create ~/.mailcap
put the following line into it:
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML
Text; nametemplate=%s.html

Hope that helps,
thanks Patrick for writing alot, fixing bugs and helping with the
config.

Regards,
Philipp


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