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Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:07
Subject: [NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)
Barry Say wrote: "Referring back to the earlier thread, I think Anthony
Robb's point in the magazine was that it is possible to play some tunes as
either a rant or a reel and he though
Barry Say wrote:
"Referring back to the earlier thread, I think Anthony Robb's point in
the magazine was that it is possible to play some tunes as either a
rant or a reel and he thought it important to choose the appropriate
rhythm when playing in competition."
If we have determin
ld.
Hmm.
Colin R
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From: Barry Say <barr...@nspipes.co.uk>
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:54
Subject: [NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)
If anyone is interested they can see a version of the Reel of Tullochgorum
at:http://www.nigelg
The NPS has a scrapbook of tunes submitted by members for both the
first (1936) and second editions (1970) of the first tunebook, mostly
duplicated - they were circulated to members for the first edition -
but some are in MS.
In some cases, composers autograph MS copies.
I've just been going th
If anyone is interested they can see a version of the Reel of
Tullochgorum at:
http://www.nigelgatherer.com/tunes/tab/tab9/reelt.html
Does anyone on this list have access to any music collections which
may contain
'Ian Powrie's Selection of Scottish Country Dance Tunes' published by
Mozart
lin R
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From: Barry Say <barr...@nspipes.co.uk>
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:41
Subject: [NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)
I quote from my original posting,--The Reel of
Tullochgorum is almost certainly th
The first page Google turned up on 'And they call I Buttercup Joe'
said:
The words of this music hall song were published in the National Prize
Medal Song Book in 1872, and they also appear in an undated copy in the
Firth collection in the Bodleian Library, which provides the addi
We mustn't overlook the fact that the the last bar and a half of each
part matches "And they call I Buttercup Joe" which is claimed to be a
southern English song (but may be a pseudo folk song).
Ian
Barry Say wrote:
I quote from my original posting,
--
The Reel of T
I quote from my original posting,
--
The Reel of Tullochgorum is almost certainly the same tune but is
reckoned to be in D. It was published by Ian Powrie, apparently in
the late 1950s and it seems that he claimed that it was a traditional
tune which he had collected.
No-one is saying that Jimmy Allan is the same *tune* as Tullocch
Gorum, but that the latter's *title* was applied to the former tune,
and possibly before that tune was called Jimmy Allan.
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Er, excuse me but am I being a bit thick here or maybe intellectually
challenged in not finding any connection between the tune Jimmy Allan and
Tullochgorum. First of all they are a different rhythm and secondly the chord
structure is different and then basically they do not even sound similar.
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-Original Message-
From: Matt Seattle [[3]mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 12 January 2009 09:20
To: nsp
Subject: [NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)
I
I've also seen it called Reel of Tullochgorum in one of the modern
Taigh na Teud compilations, and just thought it was a mistake, without
knowing the Ian Powrie connection. This is also rather strange in that
Tullochgorum is a completely separate tune with a long history (and is
even
Reading this reminded me of something. Jimmy Allan was the reason I had Bill
Hedworth make me a 7 key chanter. I couldn't play it on a simple one and I
rather liked the tune.
I'd forgotten about that until this reminded me.
Colin Hill
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To: "nsp"
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