[NSP] How to Make Bagpipes

2010-01-12 Thread Francis Wood
Here's how to do it . . .  these are GHBs though.

http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=6832

It helps to put the fingerholes in the right places and these people have a 
nifty way of doing so at 02.40

Francis


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[NSP] More Pipes on Film

2010-01-12 Thread Francis Wood
Again, its GHB. But very appealing because it's an animation from 1916 and 
silent, of course. 

http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=0635

Francis


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[NSP] NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Childs

Hi all,
I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil  
should I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how  
does one obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush that  
I've seen professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Richard York

Hi Tom,
I'll let others advise on the oil, but the bottles are gained by boldly 
walking into a nail and beauty salon and asking for either an unused one 
or an empty, then applying loads of acetate to clean it up.

Best wishes,
Richard.

Tom Childs wrote:

Hi all,
I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil 
should I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how 
does one obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush that 
I've seen professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Francis Wood

On 12 Jan 2010, at 19:04, Richard York wrote:

 then applying loads of acetate to clean it up.

Hello Richard,

That's what I did, though I think you meant acetone. It's pretty awful stuff 
and needs to be treated with care. One source of small quantities is nail 
varnish remover.

Francis



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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Richard York
   Errmmm, no actually I got lots of sheets from an overhead projector and
   wiped it until or there again I'm just getting old and forgetful
   and meant acetone all the time. Whooops.
   Thanks, Francis.
   Richard.
   Francis Wood wrote:

On 12 Jan 2010, at 19:04, Richard York wrote:



then applying loads of acetate to clean it up.


Hello Richard,

That's what I did, though I think you meant acetone.




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread colin
Many chemists sell acetone by the bottle - at least they did a few years ago 
whilst I was modelling puppets from plastic wood :-)

The nail varnish remover is quite a weak strength of it.
The alternative is to get the remover, clean the brush with it and just 
empty the last dregs from the bottle by setting it upside down on a tissue 
(move often) and leave any residue in it and let it dry and harden. It won't 
mix with the oil and (if you used a coloured varnish) should any bits manage 
to come loose, you can see them (so change the oil).
I'm now a convert to the liquid paraffin for oiling the pipes and pads (I've 
tried many other oils including lavender, almond, castor etc and nothing 
seems as good as the paraffin - no sticking pads etc or pads getting pulled 
off because they have stuck and no smell). I've used it for several years 
now .

It also keeps the maintenance regular (sorry, couldn't help myself).
For those not from the UK, liquid paraffin was used as a laxative and can 
still be purchased from a pharmacy - I got mine from Tesco but Lloyds 
pharmacy sells it as well). It has nothing to do with what you put in an oil 
lamp or stove etc.

Here's the stuff.
http://www.lloydspharmacy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=1008storeId=90productId=325219langId=-1
I'm sure we'll get a plethora of other suggestions ;)

Colin Hill


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Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads




  Errmmm, no actually I got lots of sheets from an overhead projector and
  wiped it until or there again I'm just getting old and forgetful
  and meant acetone all the time. Whooops.
  Thanks, Francis.
  Richard.
  Francis Wood wrote:

On 12 Jan 2010, at 19:04, Richard York wrote:



then applying loads of acetate to clean it up.


Hello Richard,

That's what I did, though I think you meant acetone.




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread colin
Sorry forgot to mention, pipe cleaners are very handy if you don't want to 
use the nail varnish brush method. They reach everywhere including the bore 
(via the holes) and into those hard to get places near the keys.

It's pretty easy to get a tiny bottle for the oil.
To avoid getting too much oil on the pads, try popping a little oil onto a 
slip of kitchen towel (the paper ones, of course) and just inserting it 
under the open pad, close the pad, open up again and remove the towel. Just 
the right amount.
If you get too much oil in the bore it soaks into the cotton wool bung so 
remember to change it. Sodden bungs mess up the tuning (he says knowingly 
after ages of despair before some kind soul on this list put me right about 
wet bungs).


Colin Hill

Colin Hill

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To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: [NSP] NSP oil for pipes and key pads




Hi all,
I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil  should 
I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how  does one 
obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush that  I've seen 
professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Anthony Robb

   Not advice just an historical point.
   When I was learning the pipes (two pipes teachers down the line from
   Tom Clough) I was told that Tom said the oil (olive - the sort for
   dissolving wax in lugs NOT premier virgin) should be dripping off
   the end of your chanter!
   I still use olive oil and if you play everyday it doesn't get the
   chance to stick the pads down.
   The other point is that I associate that gentle beautiful smell with my
   early, heavenly (gone eathwards ever since) experiences of piping!
   Each to his own I guess.
   As aye
   Anthony
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 From: colin cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk
 Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads
 To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 21:34

   Sorry forgot to mention, pipe cleaners are very handy if you don't want
   to use the nail varnish brush method. They reach everywhere including
   the bore (via the holes) and into those hard to get places near the
   keys.
   It's pretty easy to get a tiny bottle for the oil.
   To avoid getting too much oil on the pads, try popping a little oil
   onto a slip of kitchen towel (the paper ones, of course) and just
   inserting it under the open pad, close the pad, open up again and
   remove the towel. Just the right amount.
   If you get too much oil in the bore it soaks into the cotton wool bung
   so remember to change it. Sodden bungs mess up the tuning (he says
   knowingly after ages of despair before some kind soul on this list put
   me right about wet bungs).
   Colin Hill
   Colin Hill
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   Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:53 PM
   Subject: [NSP] NSP oil for pipes and key pads
   
Hi all,
I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil
   should I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how
   does one obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush that
   I've seen professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.
   
   
   
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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Jim Grant
   No, its what frightens the dogs on Bunfire Nicht.

Wasn't Sodden Bungs one of those British rock/blues bands from the 60s?




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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread Hilary Paton

Hi

I managed to buy little bottles with brushes and a wider neck (easier to 
pour oil in) on ebay-they're used for aromatherapy.
Just to add to what has already been said on oils, I have gone through the 
various suggestions over the years and have come back to neatsfoot oil. 
Olive was OK. Liquid parafin becomes sticky and I have had problems with 
sticking keys, which an excellent piper reported he also had a similar 
problem.
Like Anthony, the aroma of neatsfoot whilst playing has a similar effect on 
me as olive oil does to him!!


Hilary

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Subject: [NSP] NSP oil for pipes and key pads



Hi all,
I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil  should 
I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how  does one 
obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush that  I've seen 
professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.




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[NSP] NSP

2010-01-12 Thread inky adrian
   I don't use anything for my pads, nor do I clean my chanter between 1
   year or more.

   Inky-Adrian

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[NSP] Re: NSP oil for pipes and key pads

2010-01-12 Thread calecm
   I'm partial to almond oil.  Very light and easy to apply and wipe off
   the excess.  Never gets rancid or makes clots.

   Alec MacLean

   In a message dated 1/12/2010 9:56:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
   tomspip...@hotmail.com writes:

 Hi all,
 I know this question has probably been asked before, but what oil
 should I use to oil the wood and the key pads on my NSP?  Also, how
 does one obtain the little nail polish bottle with the cap/brush
 that
 I've seen professional use when oiling their pipes?  Thank you.
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