[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Philip Gruar
I've found this thread fascinating, as I have also experienced strain on the wrists - strain generally in fact - when playing a set where the bag neck is too short, and consequently have started to use bags (from Jackie Boyce) with long necks when making my pipes. This keeps the chanter well

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Richard York
As I understand it, the shape you get if a cartoonist wants to depict a drop of water: pointy top smoothly widening to rounded belly shape, and in my mind, the top is not straight but bends off to the side the chanter's going to go. Again, like the cartoon drop of water. If I'm wrong, someone

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Philip and others, Reading your post again brought to mind that I had completely forgotten to suggest a significant advantage of the inside-out bag. With the seam inside the neck, the neck is very much less liable to constriction with all the consequent advantages of strangulation. I

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Francis Wood
. . . . with all the consequent advantages of strangulation. I might possibly have meant 'disadvantages'. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Julia Say
On 28 Jan 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: ...strangulation Depends on the piper... We also have a choice of necks Do I detect a Northumberland's most wanted column somewhere? grin Julia To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-28 Thread Francis Wood
On 28 Jan 2010, at 13:16, Julia Say wrote: Do I detect a Northumberland's most wanted column somewhere? Something along these lines, perhaps?: I've got a little list, I've got a little list Of Society offenders who might well be underground, And who never would be missed, they never would be

[NSP] Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Francis Wood
Mr Bewick, the ingenious wood-engraver, has put on record a fact regarding rats nearly as mystical as any of the above. He alleges that ' the skins of such of them as have been devoured in their holes [for they are cannibals to a sad extent] have frequently been found curiously turned

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Francis Wood
On 28 Jan 2010, at 18:25, Dave S wrote: the wind blows hard enough to turn dogs inside out Enthusiasts of the zaqq (Maltese bagpipes) should take note: The bag was traditionally made of (preferably) dogskin, but goat- and calfskin were also used; there are ethnographic reports that skins

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Julia Say
On 28 Jan 2010, Francis Wood wrote: Enthusiasts of the zaqq (Maltese bagpipes) should take note: The bag was traditionally made of (preferably) dogskin, The Fenwick tutor (1896) for nsp, page 10, 1st paragraph an airtight bag made of sheep, calf or dog skin It is a fate used as an

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Julia Say
On 28 Jan 2010, Anita Evans wrote: I have a feeling you somehow inflate the carcass (while still warm) to separate the skin from the innards and then pull it all out, possibly through the rear end? Aren't those E. European pipes which I tend to associate with Dirk Campbell generally tied

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread John Dally
This is similar to a technique I tried once, where I painted part of my body with latex.  I was then able to peel the latex off, seal up the seams, et, viola, an air tight latex bag with a built in neck ready to receive the chanter stock.  The neck was perfectly suited for producing the greatest

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Steve Bliven
This made the rounds awhile back but also shows the origins www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdGO8OeaZI Best wishes to all (except those partially covered with latex - those deserve what they get) Steve On 1/28/10 4:58 PM, Anita Evans an...@evansweb.co.uk wrote: I picked this at random on

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread Anita Evans
Steve Bliven wrote: This made the rounds awhile back but also shows the origins www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdGO8OeaZI yes! thanks Steve, I had a dim memory of watching this but couldn't find it. I am both fascinated and appalled, but there's no escaping the truth... -- Anita Evans To get

[NSP] Pedantry alert!!

2010-01-28 Thread GibbonsSoinne
PS 'Inverted' is upside down; inside out is 'everted'. Ask any topologist, or classicist... John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Goat to pipe-bag

2010-01-28 Thread GibbonsSoinne
[1]http://www.answers.com/topic/zampogna-2 says, inter alia, Traditionally the bags are made from goat hides that are removed from the slaughtered animal in one piece, cured, turned inside out, then tied off just in front of the rear legs, one of the front legs serving to

[NSP] Re: Mr. Bewick, Rats and Inverted Bags

2010-01-28 Thread CalecM
This video also shows the universal aspect of piping: No matter what type of pipes, the faster the music, the more we flail away at the bellows! Alec In a message dated 1/28/2010 1:59:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, an...@evansweb.co.uk writes: Julia Say wrote: