[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play
I fully agree with Anthony, and as I have said before, I find it a little odd that NSP should be the only instrument in existence for which there is one and only one way of playing. I would credit it with being less restricted than that! Choyte is just a disparaging word for certain types of ornamentation, used (the word) by people who happen not to like it (the ornamentation). C The beauty of Alice's playing for me is that she puts very tight staccato as well as choytes in the same piece. For some of us this gives depth and variety and adds more strings to her very expressive bow. Exactly - she can do the staccato or add cuts (to borrow the UP term) etc. as her feeling for the music suggests/demands Adrian is of course entitled to his opinion. He is not, however, entitled to demand/dictate that we all share it. But this has all been said before at length... Keep smiling. Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: whatever
Thanks Julia, I really appreciate the wholly positive approach of your post. Chris Me too Another Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Alice Burn, and whatever
Well said, Richard. Shame it's all been said before and fallen on deaf ears ;-( -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:20 PM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Alice Burn, and whatever Hi, I've just got back from a week away to find this lot, and would really like to listen to Alice Emily's sound. Sadly when I click on the link the RealPlayer box duly pops up, takes ages to load, then sits there refusing to do anything. It's probably something very computer illiterate I'm doing - any helpful comments would be welcome, please. As a fool stepping in where angels, etc. Bach's music can work fantastically on totally authentic period instruments, if the musicians are good enough. His music can also work well with modern electrics, if the musicians are good enough. I believe JSB himself reckoned the piano would never catch on, as it was when he first heard it. Then it developed. Some musical experiments are regrettable, but if they don't speak to enough people they die out; if they do they live, and tastes change and develop. In the 70's I really liked folk rock, and Steel-eye Span; these days I prefer the more traditional bare-bones stuff I would have got bored with then. As a parallel, I happen to like small harps, and really don't like much of the sound of the (to my mind) over-developed full orchestral harp, but it seems to please a lot of intelligent people. Is it so terrible to push the boundaries? Who does the music belong to? Who needs protecting from what? Should we start a music and philosophy group :) And I still can't get the clips to work. Richard. On 19/05/2011 22:28, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello folks There may be one or two apart from Adrian interested in the Alice person. Here she is playing with Emily Hoile at the Chantry Museum last night for the Windy Gyle Band Force 6 launch. This won't be to everyone's liking but gives a flavour of what she Emily get up to when left to their own devices. Aplogies for overloads, I started my Edirol running and then totally neglected the levels - Emily's harp shook the living daylights out of it! [1][1]http://www.robbpipes.com/AliceEmily Cheers Anthony P.S. it was a grand night - thank you Anne M. -- References 1. [2]http://www.robbpipes.com/AliceEmily To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/AliceEmily 2. http://www.robbpipes.com/AliceEmily 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Whatever!
Well it's added a welcome bit of humour, and Adrian indulges in for ad hominem (and especially ad feminam) attacks himself often enough. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Vernon Levy Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:29 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Whatever! I don't think this distasteful ad hominem attack has added anything to the debate. On 22 May 2011, at 12:39, John Poohbah wrote: Inky Adrian writes: I'm not influenced by money. Of course it is easy for Inky to say, being in regular receipt of a welfare cheq ue on account of his allergy to signal boxes! Inky Adrian continues: We now have some-one playing 60-odd key's in 78 note's? Correct me if I'm wrong . Well, I must take you to task over the plethora of inappropriate apostrophes rep lacing correct pluralisation. I am moved to add that Alice looks much nicer in a dress but I would like to con gratulate Inky on his walk-on part in the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movi e. John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Whatever!
- Original Message - From: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu Adrian indulges in ad hominem (and especially ad feminam) attacks himself often enough. C Can't resist a bit of pedantry - and reversion to my long-ago alter-ego as a Latin teacher! 'ad hominem' can apply to women too, since strictly speaking 'homo' means member of mankind -'man' as opposed to beast or god, not male person as opposed to female. 'Man' as opposed to Woman is 'Vir', so it would have to be 'ad virum' if you wanted to be precise about the victim's sex. Having said that, Roman society was so male-dominated that 'homo' in practice usually means a male, unless woman is specified. Anyway Chris, well done for getting the ending right - most people these days neither know nor care...;-) (actually, I suppose, *most* people never did) Grumpy Old Man, Educational Standards Going to the Dogs etc. etc. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Whatever!
Thanks Philip. I vaguely knew this, but was alluding to the fact that it's usually a particular female piper who comes in for the most vicious and unwarranted attacks (she can play as good a staccato as anyone when she chooses, but has committed the unforgivable sin of being too successful) - and now poor Alice. I put feminam because I couldn't remember the accusative of mulier ;-) c most people these days neither know nor care...;-) (actually, I suppose, *most* people never did) Sad but true, though getting your endings wrong in a highly inflected language like Latin, Finnish or the Slav and Baltic groups can mangle your message rather more seriously than getting them wrong in, say, German. Grumpy Old Man, Educational Standards Going to the Dogs etc. etc. Idem C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Gruar Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 12:12 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Whatever! - Original Message - From: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu Adrian indulges in ad hominem (and especially ad feminam) attacks himself often enough. C Can't resist a bit of pedantry - and reversion to my long-ago alter-ego as a Latin teacher! 'ad hominem' can apply to women too, since strictly speaking 'homo' means member of mankind -'man' as opposed to beast or god, not male person as opposed to female. 'Man' as opposed to Woman is 'Vir', so it would have to be 'ad virum' if you wanted to be precise about the victim's sex. Having said that, Roman society was so male-dominated that 'homo' in practice usually means a male, unless woman is specified. Anyway Chris, well done for getting the ending right - most people these days neither know nor care...;-) (actually, I suppose, *most* people never did) Grumpy Old Man, Educational Standards Going to the Dogs etc. etc. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] tune of the month
Melodeon.net is a remarkably interesting and helpful resource if you're a box player. One of the things they do is have a tune of the month where members vote on a tune out of a list of four and then everyone is invited to post their rendition of it on [1]youtube.com. The moderators also select a theme, like Irish tunes or wedding tunes or something like that. I have found this to be a real boost to my learning to play the melodeon, learning tunes, connecting with folks around the world, getting good advice. The remarkable thing is that I haven't come across a negative comment or any comment that wasn't made with the best intentions. Of course, people do have their favorite instruments and styles, etc., and some have their bugaboos, but overall it's a very encouraging internet community. Perhaps, we could doing something like this here on the NSP newsgroup. If even only a few people think this is a good idea and want to participate I think it would be a good way to keep the conversation going and help each other out. It also gives something for people to work towards, like a competition without the stress and judgement. Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Anyway, if this seems like an interesting idea to enough people perhaps we could name a tune of the month for June by this coming weekend. cheers, John Dally -- References 1. http://youtube.com/ 2. http://www.theotherpipers.org/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] new group
Hello all, A new Facebook group The Proper Northumberland Small-pipe Players has been founded. Anyone can join if they have a passion for the correct method of playing the pipes - detached fingering - as opposed to the commercial and wrong way - running. the notes in together, sloppyness and choyting. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] favourite tune of the month
With reference to John Dally's idea of a 'tune a month', this sounds like a good idea, both from a social and collaborative point of view, and also as a way of broadening the appeal of someone's favourite tune which may not be so widely known, but deserves to be so. May I start the ball rolling by suggesting, 'Felton Lonnen', as it appears in Pauline Cato's Northumbrian Choice which has the double appeal of being both a very beautiful (to my ears, anyway) air and a jig. Happy playing, Peter Dunn. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6145 (20110523) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. [1]http://www.eset.com -- References 1. http://www.eset.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
Is this different than the Proper Northumbrian Pipers group? On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Inky- Adrian [1]inkyadr...@googlemail.com wrote: A new Facebook group The Proper Northumberland Small-pipe Players has been founded. -- References 1. mailto:inkyadr...@googlemail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
On 23 May 2011, at 21:28, Mark Stayton wrote: Is this different than the Proper Northumbrian Pipers group? It's a slightly different chapel but we worship the same God. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
