[NSP] Re: NSP spotted on ebay UK
On 15/02/2012 16:23, John Dally wrote: [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Northumbrian-Smallpipes-/120858672456?pt=UK_ Woodwind_Instrumentshash=item1c23bcfd48 Can anyone identify the maker? I am not associated with the sale or interested in bidding on them. Just curious. -- References 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Northumbrian-Smallpipes-/120858672456?pt=UK_Woodwind_Instrumentshash=item1c23bcfd48 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html I think it's the late Ron Blake of Alderly Edge, Cheshire. Adrian
[NSP] Emails I've looked at.
Staccato: Not the space in between, it's the aEUR~pop' that comes out. I've learn't somat tonite. Ta. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] arrogant
I was responding to this post. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kyle Eckmann [1]eckmanncustomt...@hotmail.com Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [NSP] Billy Pigg To: [2]inkyadr...@googlemail.com Hello everyone, I've made several requests over the last year to have my address removed from this mailing list. And I'm still on the list. I just have to much to keep up with these days to contribute to the conversation. So here is my contribution. Inky, You display no joy in your position. You come across as an arrogant ass of an old man who doesn't really enjoy the instrument or the music. Now, Can I please be removed from this mailing list? :) Happy piping! Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:50:22 +0100 To: [3]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [4]inkyadr...@googlemail.com Subject: [NSP] Billy Pigg Fortunately, when I was wanting to play the Union pipes, I ended up at DGBs in Longfram. I ended up buying the NSPs. Billy Pigg was the piper I went for because he was sympathetic to Irish music, having been influenced by Irish musicians and their music, and Scottish music. Pigg also imitated the various pipes of these countries. He wasn't interested in tradition. Because of him and various other pipers, including me, the NSPs have almost become a mixture of playing styles with the proper technique almost being lost. The NSPs are loosing their roots and loosing their identity because of lazy, so called players, who don't know how to play or can't do it properly because of their slow dexterity or their Pigg stupid ideas. I'm saying this because I care and it takes a Lancastrian to do it. I've taken to the tradition more than most and those who say the NSPs can be played any-old-how are the ones ruining the pipes. Why don't you take up an easy instrument to play instead of lowering the standard of a fantastic instrument? or just stop posting on here. The forum, which I made because it was needed, would not tolerate my post nor any other postings of this sort becsuse we have one goal: Traditional NSPs, their history, playing, etc etc. There is no disagreement with us, we are just progressing and preserving our NPSs away from those who know little or nothing. So keep on Dartmouth, where you can bitch, argue or whatever. Nothing is documented or catagorised on here, our forum does this and we are the Borg-we are the future. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:eckmanncustomt...@hotmail.com 2. mailto:inkyadr...@googlemail.com 3. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:inkyadr...@googlemail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused
I did play the NSPs with regulators and won in the other category, not trad. NSPing. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth
The annual smallpipe Bitch and Bite comps. will be in July. There will be 6 classes: absolute sloppyness and running-your-notes-in, just damn right easy-playing, almost there, nearly normal, can't play like that-it's too hard and tight as a cats arsehole. Tommy Breckons would be proud of me! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Billy Pigg
Fortunately, when I was wanting to play the Union pipes, I ended up at DGBs in Longfram. I ended up buying the NSPs. Billy Pigg was the piper I went for because he was sympathetic to Irish music, having been influenced by Irish musicians and their music, and Scottish music. Pigg also imitated the various pipes of these countries. He wasn't interested in tradition. Because of him and various other pipers, including me, the NSPs have almost become a mixture of playing styles with the proper technique almost being lost. The NSPs are loosing their roots and loosing their identity because of lazy, so called players, who don't know how to play or can't do it properly because of their slow dexterity or their Pigg stupid ideas. I'm saying this because I care and it takes a Lancastrian to do it. I've taken to the tradition more than most and those who say the NSPs can be played any-old-how are the ones ruining the pipes. Why don't you take up an easy instrument to play instead of lowering the standard of a fantastic instrument? or just stop posting on here. The forum, which I made because it was needed, would not tolerate my post nor any other postings of this sort becsuse we have one goal: Traditional NSPs, their history, playing, etc etc. There is no disagreement with us, we are just progressing and preserving our NPSs away from those who know little or nothing. So keep on Dartmouth, where you can bitch, argue or whatever. Nothing is documented or catagorised on here, our forum does this and we are the Borg-we are the future. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Proper piping group
The new facebook forum The Proper Northumberland small-pipe Players has now developed into an array of topics: Traditional reedmaking, smallpipe making , traditional developement and delving into the past to see how things might have worked and possibly revamp them for todays use. The forum is not for those who have a total dislike of of all things traditional, it is for those who have a positive view and a general agreement with each other on what the small-pipes are about. We are actively recording the tunes and how we think the pipes should be sound. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Rules
I don't want a definate rule I would just like thr NPS to acknowledge that there is a traditional way of playing the small-pipes which is detached. If they don' t, then they are saying that the pipes have no playing tradition, therefore I'm playing pipes which are a bastard- no lineage of how they are played. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] new group
Hello all, A new Facebook group The Proper Northumberland Small-pipe Players has been founded. Anyone can join if they have a passion for the correct method of playing the pipes - detached fingering - as opposed to the commercial and wrong way - running. the notes in together, sloppyness and choyting. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] whatever
Hello all, to play so many notes with the thumb? What sort of instrument is this. First it was holes, fingered, then a Top A key? Then more key's,7. Then more key's,17. Whatever! We now have some-one playing 60-odd key's in 78 note's? Correct me if I'm wrong. This is very strange. The correct playing method will die and people, like you Anthony , will make money. I'm not influenced by money. I do promote the correct way of playing the Northumberland Small-pipes, as does Mr Ormston; for free! I hope the Northumberland small-pipes would die, as Tom Breckon's agreed with me, it should. your's Fingerless Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play
This is not Northumberland Smallpipe-playing. The player choytes. The player slides into notes too. Staccato rules! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Key of C
Hello all, the hornet's nest is being stirred here! the problem is that the best keying arrangement for any one key will be compromised due to the arpeggios and runs in the different key signatures. Also, the keying arrangement would be different if the tune has arpeggios and no runs or vice-versa in just one key! Basically, in the keys of G and D, on standard 7 key chanter, there are two compromise: the low F'# key and D key, two uses of the right thumb, also, the top G to B key where one has to replace the left thumb on G to play the top B key or vice-versa. More to come later, it's late. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Doubleday
Hello all this instrument does not lack ability, it lacks players who can't play in the correct method; not many can do that. Expression is emphasised in precision. I'm not here to delineate. There is no more expression in those who can play the detached method with feeling. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] [NSP]
Hello all, regarding Alnwick piper's website: Hosting for this domain is not configured or the domain is not registered. Inky-Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation
Billy got it wrong. Slieve na whatever is not what Billy played, unless there is another tune with same title. But that title, I've always pronounced it sleeve na mon. see http://www.irishpage.com/songs/slevmoan.htm Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] [nsp]
Yes, I like this forum, until it's disturbed by ' The Child' having a tantrum. Inky-Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] test
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[NSP] NSP
I don't use anything for my pads, nor do I clean my chanter between 1 year or more. Inky-Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Presidency Latest
Dear Anthony, I do not wish for my name to be mentioned on any letter to the NSP committee. Thanks. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Presidency Latest
i? Hello Anthony, what has Colin Ross done for the NSPS? Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: smallpipes
No she can't ; she didn't in the early days nor can she now. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: What oil to use?
I don't use oil. I like it dry; no seeping of moisture where it can travel down the bore and spread it's oily film of corruption and interfere with other parts, where it can't get on to ones tight detatched fingers, making them slack and letting the chanter slip away from beneath. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] smallpipes
I have read and contbulalated-(is this a word?) Irish.English and Scotttish.What are the Northumberland bagpipes;what are they? Are they distinct from other bagpipes? Yes, the chanter the end is blocked up. Adian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] NSP
Where is the NSPS going? What do the NSPS want? Who is the NSPS? What are Northumberland -small-pipes. What is tradition? What is the Bellingham Show Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] NPS
Things seem to be coming out into the open and it's about time. It has been dominated too long with one man. Due to this, the society has done little to promote or encourage the small-pipes; although some tune books have been published, the last one just a re-hash of the others. What happenned to the non NSP piping course in the North East, it didn't run. Why?-because a member of the committee condemned it, I wonder who that was?? It has ignored the concerns of prominant piper's and failed to promote proper piping-play the pipes any old-how - good for the pipe makers - not good for the tradition. The last record of piping, yes a vinyl record, was published in 1988. Why do I say the last one, dare I say the only one? I get potential pipers with hire sets, all of the sets were out of tune and in need of maintenance. The society has come to a grinding halt. The committee needs to think where is it going, what are we here for and not to let it be run with the thoughts of one person. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] President
Anthony, though I've said that I'm in favour of Colin being proposed as President, there are facts that have come to my attention which have not been disclosed on this forum, which have disquaded me from voting. I think you are rollerballing the proposal of President without giving people time to get the facts, which may disuade/not disquade others from voting. By doing this is, It is fast-tracking the proposal and sweeping away underlying problems re: Ann sessoms post and other problems/potential problems that have/will happen. Please take me off the list, I do not want to vote. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: NPS President
I think it's time for the NPS to stop this childish sucking-up to Patrons and Presidents. There is no need for our Patron at all. I've not seen or heard anything that he has done for the cause of our society except give our society some false illusion of Grandeur, Nobility and Eliteism and cast an erroneous cloud of what the Northumberland Smallpipes are about. The Patron has not supported our society as within dictionary terms for the word Patron So what's he there for? As for a President, there is no need for one, the Chairman can do that job. If one says that the President most be impartial, then the Chairman should be too when sitting in committee. The Chairman is not there to dictate, he there to precide. I believe the title Honarary President could be given to achievements made within the society as a gesture of thanks but he/she would have no powers whatsoever. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] flawed
From what I've been told about about the AGM 2 years ago, where a certain person bursted out in rage and condemned Burleigh's pipes, why wasn't this minuted? If I can't trust the committee, then I can see no future with the NSP and me. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER as I feel very strong about it. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] detatched/closed method
I think I've just wasted nearly 30 years of playing and entering competitions. All of the judges, to my knowledge, judged my playing on the closed method as well as other things. Even Forster Charlton metioned to me that I ran my notes together, many years ago, so he was a believer in the closed method. It seems to me that the true sound of the pipes will be lost because people wont spend the time to play closed fingering and the associated tunes with variations. Playing a succesion of detached notes is a wonderful sound, when playing the variations to a tune; they become something hypnotic, almost dronal. I should have taked up the Irish pipes! Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] NHMS
Dear all, 2 days ago I received a package from the Northumbrian Musical Heritage Society which contained letters of correspondence and varous tutorials in playing and making the smallpipes. Also a medallion was included. My name appears on some of the letters. I have nothing to do with the NMHS, I am not a member and nor do I wish to become one. I do not wish to correspond with LR or become part of anything to do with him. I have not given permission for my name to me used in fulfilling any position, title or used in documents within the NMHS. Nor am I a Grand Master. Regards Adrian D Schofield -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html