[NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

2011-11-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
Yes! -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:41 PM To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle Hello Kevin and all I noticed this in

[NSP] Re: (no subject)

2011-09-08 Thread Christopher.Birch
the streaming eyes and waterfall nose generated by the Northumbrian grassland on that day entirely surpassed all my previous experience. Horrible isn't it? and it's not just (Northumbrian) grassland. I used to suffer from dustmites all year round until a suitable treatment was found. Enough

[NSP] Re: Sad news for singing and piping

2011-09-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Very sad indeed. I only met Ray once, way back in the mid-60s when she took me aside at the Sidmouth festival and made some very kind remarks about my singing. I got the impression that she was as charming as she was talented. My condolences to Colin and all who knew her. C -Original

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, Roxborough Castle

2011-06-30 Thread Christopher.Birch
Might be quite good if he played it at half the speed. And got his chanter remotely in tune. Otherwise agree with Francis. Me too. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, Roxborough Castle

2011-06-30 Thread Christopher.Birch
And a curious choice of drone, which on my headset seemed to be the subdominant. Yes I admire anyone, though, who can honestly say they've never played too fast when confronted with a recording device, and mangled good intentions, when nervous adrenalin cripples technique though. Or am I

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
If Beethoven were alive today and could hear (:)), would he have recognised his compositions as played I'm very sure he would have recognised the pieces but he might have thought people had a very funny way of playing them. Though I did once hear a recording of piece by Palestrina that I had

[NSP] Re: Was Mr. Fenwick right?

2011-06-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
Tom Clough wrote that notes should be played their full length, but clearly separated, and Fenwick is consistent with this. And they were both consistent with this: notes last *almost* until the next one starts. This is what I meant by a fresh start to each note but not necessarily a

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
'Detached' is not an equivalent, though. I'll play a slow air, or everything else for that manner with 'detached fingering' because that's how a stopped chanter works. And it's not the opposite of 'legato'! I take 'detached fingering' to mean only that and nothing more. Only one finger off at

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
I think I'd go along with all of this. C -Original Message- From: Francis Wood [mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:01 AM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Cc: NSPlist group Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead On 22 Jun 2011, at 09:39,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thank you in turn, Philip. The ancient sagas are an interesting question. I don't know when or how the Iliad and the Odyssey came to be fixed in their present form, but I do know that the Kalevala was a compilation from a variety of sources made only in the 19th century. A sobering thought for

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
Generally people in literate societies have far worse memories than in societies with oral/aural cultures. Ask an ear player how many tunes he knows - it will be more than I can remember where I kept the dots of Swings and roundabouts. C To get on or off this list see list

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
Oops, outlook tells me I've already sent a reply. I wonder what it said... Barry, et al. May I point you to the Dolmetsch dictionary http://www.dolmetsch.com/defss4.htm Thanks, this is very interesting but unfortunately reminds me that dictionaries are not infallible. (I have been working as

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
that's what I tend to use) that in classical / art music terms these days, a note with a staccato dot should be played half length of what is printed, (so a crotchet becomes a quaver, for instance), This is the convention I'm familiar with too. I find a useful practise technique for NSP, now

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
I forgot to mention the stupid percussion, sorry ;-) c -Original Message- From: Francis Wood [mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:53 AM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Cc: julia@nspipes.co.uk; barr...@nspipes.co.uk; j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk;

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
And no one threw any tantra C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:17 PM To: julia@nspipes.co.uk Cc: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Hello Julia

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
This is something that no other bagpipe can do. In fact it would be difficult to think of another wind instrument capable of silence whilst pressure is applied. At present I can only identify the ocarina. Uilleann pipes, chanter stopped on knee, all fingers down? CB To get on or off this

[NSP] Re: Tradition

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Quite! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dru Brooke-Taylor Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:07 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Tradition Has it occurred to anyone that once a tradition has started to get self

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Quite, again! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:51 PM To: Francis Wood; NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Hello Francis, Quite so, but, playing devil's advocate for a

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hear hear, and position has only one s. Adrian of all people talking about bad spelling! You couldn't make it up. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:13 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu;

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
However, I think we differ over the harpsichord's ability to play 'long-sustained'. I was having this discussion with my wife the other day (she plays keyboards rather better than I can), so I went to the harpsichord and tried it to check. Just like on a piano, if you hold a key down, the

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Joe Hutton seemed a bit lukewarm about that. Joe didn't exactly play ultrastaccato, did he? C I'd forgotten that remark about the skeletons. Thanks for reminding! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
using all the vocabulary an instrument can offer rather than cutting a bit out because it's heretical. Yes!!! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
OK, I shouldn't have called it staccato, Unfortunately some people do seem to think staccato means short. C -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
a couple of the best plpers are trying to make people understand how to play their instrument properly. No prizes for identifying the following quote: She is a very good teacher, demanding accurate staccato playing. C To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm risking a lot here I know but who actually decided how the pipes should be played? Good question! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well said, Anthony! The fact that you can play should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have their ego where their ears should be. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:00 AM To:

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
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[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a proper e-mail: __ From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Dave S'; Inky- Adrian Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
if he were to hear them played now. Well that's because he was deaf... In that case he wouldn't hear them at all, but I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now. He's been decomposing ever since according to a very old joke. Praps that could

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Christopher.Birch
-Original Message- From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:53 AM To: 'Dave S' Subject: RE: [NSP] divorce Well said, Dave! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: Thursday, June

[NSP] Re: Rules

2011-06-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Yup, there's a traditional way, and other approaches have grown from it - arguably enriching it. Like with any other instrument. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Inky- Adrian Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:54 AM To:

[NSP] Re: Concerts in France

2011-06-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thanks for the redirection. I would otherwise have missed this. Do I detect two flavours here? Machine and very bad human translation? E.g. how do we explain drowns. Wait (yet) another five years... CB The link via the Union Flag button doesn't work but the translation follows the French.

[NSP] Re: Pipes concerts etc.

2011-06-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Francis has a remarkable talent for insight combined with wit! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:57 AM To: Anthony Robb Cc: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: Pipes concerts etc.

[NSP] Re: tune of the month

2011-05-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list

[NSP] Re: tune of the month

2011-05-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
Nice one Francis. Happy daze. -Original Message- From: Francis Wood [mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:23 AM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Cc: dir...@gmail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: tune of the month Since I've never felt the urge to

[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
I fully agree with Anthony, and as I have said before, I find it a little odd that NSP should be the only instrument in existence for which there is one and only one way of playing. I would credit it with being less restricted than that! Choyte is just a disparaging word for certain types of

[NSP] Re: whatever

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thanks Julia, I really appreciate the wholly positive approach of your post. Chris Me too Another Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Alice Burn, and whatever

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well said, Richard. Shame it's all been said before and fallen on deaf ears ;-( -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:20 PM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Alice Burn, and whatever

[NSP] Re: Whatever!

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well it's added a welcome bit of humour, and Adrian indulges in for ad hominem (and especially ad feminam) attacks himself often enough. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Vernon Levy Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:29 PM

[NSP] Re: Whatever!

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thanks Philip. I vaguely knew this, but was alluding to the fact that it's usually a particular female piper who comes in for the most vicious and unwarranted attacks (she can play as good a staccato as anyone when she chooses, but has committed the unforgivable sin of being too successful) -

[NSP] Re: Various

2011-05-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Tune in E maj on G chanter - the A part has about 78 notes and 62 of them are played on the right thumb so even electronic pipes don't help unless of course you cheat by electronically transposing. Assuming that Catriona's fiddle was at concert pitch and that she was playing in E

[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Delightful, and what a weird and wonderful approach to the harp! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:29 PM To: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Alice Burn Hello folks There

[NSP] Re: even more on G and D

2011-05-19 Thread Christopher.Birch
For me she is rather special because her ego is in inverse cubic proportion to her talent. What a refreshing change! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: even more on G and D

2011-05-19 Thread Christopher.Birch
Are we talking about E maj on an F chanter or a G chanter. Assuming that we're talking about nominal rather than absolute pitches, this wouldn't make any difference, would it? C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: even more on G and D

2011-05-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
right next to G, is C - so the drones are not being forced into unnatural contortions to get there in terms of temperament, I don't understand the reference to temperament here. C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: even more on G and D

2011-05-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Thanks, John. I actually knew this. Maybe what I should have said was I don't understand the reference to 'drones' here. so the drones are not being forced into unnatural contortions to get there in terms of temperament, nor should the tuning be. The appropriateness of the reference to

[NSP] Re: even more on G and D

2011-05-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm rather busy and have a lot going on in my head. I don't claim to have thoroughly thought through every word of my posting. Been there, done that, my sympathies! c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: D chanter on AU ebay

2011-03-25 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well I'm glad someone else was wondering. I thought I might just be being stupid again. The top end looked fairly standard to me with what was clearly an Fnat key. It would be nice to know what the other two were. CB -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: D chanter on AU ebay

2011-03-25 Thread Christopher.Birch
This is a bit confusing as the key in the Fnat position is Eb on an F chanter. So, using nominal pitches the keys would be Fnat, a, c (little finger) and b, d thumb? Indeed an odd selection. I have a nominal top c on my F chanter, but it hardly ever gets used and I frankly wish I hadn't

[NSP] Re: Tuning/pitch

2011-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
As establishing frequencies was yet to come, I think establishing frequencies goes back at least as far as Mersenne's time but I've no idea how they did it. I can't think of any other explanation for the figures accompanying his illustration of the various sizes in the violin family, which

[NSP] Re: Tuning

2011-02-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
Fair enough. George Welch sings it in B minor - or very low of course. though George appears to be having problems with the high notes even at this pitch. c __ From: Matt Seattle

[NSP] Re: Tuning/pitch

2011-02-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
One maker having lots of influence again, or rather previously! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:31 AM To: Paul Gretton Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu group Subject: [NSP]

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-08 Thread Christopher.Birch
Equal temperament of course has its place as does chromaticism, but I think except for keyboard-players, who can't (unless they have split-key harpsichords or such like), even when playing highly chromatic music the best musicians constantly tweak their tuning to produce the most harmonious

[NSP] Re: Tuning

2011-02-08 Thread Christopher.Birch
Also, it's a song and all of the singers I have backed prefer that key. Yes, it would be horribly high in A min unless you were a natural light tenor. And finally, as an instrumental it makes a loamishly lovely springboard to dive into P B's P. I don't know PBP but BAM sounds wonderful

[NSP] Re: Tuning

2011-02-08 Thread Christopher.Birch
I set my Korg DA 30 to 446 using the calibration button and take it Sorry to be a nuisance (again!), but what note on the chanter do you tune for zero deviation of the needle? The (nominal) G or the (nominal) B? (or other?) Thanks CB To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Chanter Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
I don't know exactly how flat A = 398 is but it can't be very far off F+, given that A = 392 would correspond to concert G. I wonder if Anthony would agree therefore that since lots of the notes are sharp, a good starting point would be to pull the reed out a fraction? C -Original

[NSP] Re: Chanter Tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
I don't know exactly how flat A = 398 is but it can't be very far off F+, Sorry, badly worded. I mean it can't be very far off an A that would give you F+. c given that A = 392 would correspond to concert G. I wonder if Anthony would agree therefore that since lots of the notes are sharp,

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
Can one maker (which one?) have that much influence? Possibly, I think. I didn't have a specific one in mind as I was primarily speculating on the process (that's why I wrote a maker rather than one maker, but didn't CR fairly recently mention someone down the road making lots and lots of

[NSP] Re: Chanter tuning

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
blend their pipes failry pleasantly at A=446. Do you mean tuning your nominal G to the F you get on an equal temperament tuner if you set it to A = 446? Or do you mean tuning the nominal B to 446? These two possibilities would yield different results. (a higher nominal G in the second

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
A compromise might be a pair of e's, one a true 6th above G, for playing in G; another - a perfect fourth above the B, and keyed, for playing in E minor. Yes, this is what I meant by 8 (different) notes to the octave rather than just seven. The lower, keyed, high E would also sound better

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
And I've been telling people it is because all notes have got gradually sharper over the last 150 years, and that the Reid 'ur-pipes' were made when G was somewhere between where F and G are now. Have I been wrong all this time? This is probably an associated factor. My speculation about

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
I put this down to my pipes being tuned with G as their home key, as it were, This is probably it, as you probably (I hope) have your pipes tuned in more like just intonation than equal temperament. So your nominal B, for example, will be very flat as the second degree of

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
The tuning given here is basically just intonation rather than meantone: http://www.machineconcepts.co.uk/smallpipes/tuning.htm In other words, acoustically pure intervals. No tempering at all. but on a piano a fifth is a fifth is a fifth (nearly). Nearly = two cents narrow cf. Mike Nelson's

[NSP] Re: Esoteric tuning relationships

2011-02-04 Thread Christopher.Birch
Btw, Rob Say's nsp simulator is in equal temperament. I've discussed this with him and he agrees that it's less than ideal but it's neverthless a good starting point for beginners - which was what is was intended to be. When it tells you that, for example, the G and D drones are in tune, the d

[NSP] Re: Bewicks German Spa

2011-02-01 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ouch!!! -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ian Lawther Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:09 AM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Bewicks German Spa I've just noticed a tune called German Spa in Bewick and wondered

[NSP] Re: Rotting of The Cotton Threads

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher.Birch
I actually rather like the 2nd viennese school version, especially with the 15/16 bars at the end of strains! c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:12 PM To: 'NSP group'

[NSP] Re: Shape notes

2011-01-13 Thread Christopher.Birch
thanks, John, though I confess I still don't see it. I haven't got anything like absolute pitch but I have got very good relative pitch and I find the intervals are perfectly clear from conventional notation - which is what you are left with if you take the shapes away. I suppose it's just a

[NSP] Re: Still off topic: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
There's still though the question 'why?'. I'd have thought if a person has the ability to learn the sol fa and the shapes, it would be easier to learn the ordinary notes. Exactly! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Still off topic: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
easier than straining the eye to see if that little black circle is an A or a C and how do I then find that pitch on the spot. Fair enough, but for someone whose vision is as bad as mine, it's easier to see where a blob is (on which line or between which lines?) than to discern the precise

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
I think in France they have a fixed do system, where mib =Meeflat = Eb This is correct. At the Conservatoires they teach people to sing the note names, which I personally find a pointless exercise for various reasons, including the fact that they miss out the words bémol, dièse and bécart

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
Yup, I can sympathise with all this (especially the bit about unintentionally rude or nonsensical - I was once warning a class of Germans learning English to avoid the word backside when they mean back or verso and managed to make precisely the same mistake myself in German while doing so -

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-12 Thread Christopher.Birch
Now this is really off-topic but might amuse some. If likely to disapprove, please delete now. I was once taking a sectional rehearsal for the viola in the student orchestra at the Luxembourg conservatoire (where they use the French system) when I found myself translating the rehearsal marks

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm afraid I can't help here, but I have a related query. Can anyone explain the significance, if any, of the shapes? c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Gruar Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:37 PM To: Dartmouth

[NSP] Re: Off-topic request for Hymnbook

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher.Birch
If your question is why those particular shapes - I have no idea. No, it was why shapes at all? because if you remove them you are left with conventional notation. (I have perused a copy, but unfortunately don't own one). As you say: people who didn't read music much but

[NSP] Re: Doublin' (Keenan Glackin)

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
'Your pipes are more suitable for solo playing' perhaps? nice! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: A 70 cent divergence

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
More than a third of a tone in old money. er, semitone? c -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: A 70 cent divergence

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher.Birch
Adults with amusia Now then. Does this describe an absence of any sense of humour? I would have thought rather an irrepressible sense of humour! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
Nice one John! c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:50 PM To: Anthony Robb; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; rob@milecastle27.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning Others may

[NSP] Re: Concertina Tuning

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher.Birch
out of tune drones (and this unfortunately is the norm it seems to me) do little to enhance the music. This is true even in the most surprising quarters i.e. modern recordings where retakes could be done fairly easily to correct this. I was starting to wonder whether I was the only

[NSP] Re: technique etcetera

2010-12-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
The first tune I ever did this with was Crooked Bawbee, as suggested by Bill Hume. It worked well for me, I didn't get bored with it. Helen Yup, great tune and one that like even the way I play it myself. It's a healthy exercise on the tightrope between beauty and sentimentality/kitsch -

[NSP] Re: technique etcetera

2010-12-22 Thread Christopher.Birch
When I first started David Burleigh kindly pointed me in the direction of the first four tunes in Derek Hobbs' Folk in Harmony, Book 1: Morag of Dunvegan Leaving Lismore Queen Mary Believe Me Highly recommended for beginners. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
the special quality of the smallpipes is that they can be played in tune But unfortunately often aren't, even by respected players! If the cap fits... csirz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
what Northumbrian pipes can do better than any other; that precise delivery of detached notes with duration and silences perfectly timed. But unfortunately the obsession with detaching the notes sometimes lead to the durations and silences being somewhat random - thus destroying the rhythmic

[NSP] Re: Doubleday

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
There is no more expression in those who can play the detached method with feeling. This seems an odd statement from one such as Adrian. Is there a word missing? E.g. than ... (... in those who can play the detached method with feeling)? Or shouldn't the word no be there? c To get on or

[NSP] Re: Anthony Robb

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
two best instruments in the world. You forgot the viols! I have always been moved by music and it affects me often at a physical level. Not just bringing me to tears when it is beautiful but also hurting when it's not right. I can sympathise with this. Personally, I find bad tuning

[NSP] Re: How to play Northumbrian Smallpipes with Detached Fingering

2010-11-24 Thread Christopher.Birch
It says Helen Fish at the end, so I assume it's Paul Rhodes ;-) -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:05 AM To: NSP group; Richard Evans Subject: [NSP] Re: How to play

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Bit over the top isn't it? And anyway the monkeys and their trypewriters (sic) are a fallacy. You'd long have exhausted the number of particles in the universe before you got close to having an infinite number of anything. Infinity is, er, big. c -Original Message- From:

[NSP] Re: Help please

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
The link from the rant to Gaughan's main page doesn't work. Somebody being clueless, I assume. c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:41 AM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re:

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
- we should perhaps think of a (dissonant) e resolving down on to the d of a G major tonic chord, Very well put! c John Gibbons wrote: the reprint edition has a typo in the penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning g/f/|egB egB... instead of g/f/|egd egB ... as in

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
BTW, does anyone know whether the omission of the dot after the first quaver in, for example, the last bar of the first strain was a convention of the time (given that there was not much music around in 11/16 time) or just an error? c To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: 'My Deary sits ower late up'

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
John Gibbons wrote: the reprint edition has a typo in the penultimate strain, the 1st bar beginning g/f/|egB egB... instead of g/f/|egd egB ... as in Peacock itself - see FARNE or the facsimile. The typo gives an e minor flavour which doesn't belong, I feel. My

[NSP] Re: James Grieve

2010-10-26 Thread Christopher.Birch
notorious for his ' dripping tap gacing style, which we eventually learned was called choyting. I'd always understood the dripping tap style to be choyte-free piping with the notes dutifully spat out one after another. csírz To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: morpeth museum site and more time travel

2010-04-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
todays' world. How many todays is that? Or is this what passes for punctuation in today's world? ;-) The text ain't that bad. An obvious typo, wrong tense, superfluous spaces and a bit of wordiness. I'd suggest the following revision. * The Bagpipe Museum has been housed in Morpeth's

[NSP] Re: morpeth museum site and more time travel

2010-04-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Curiously enough, the last sentence of the original is correct, the organisation is called the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne. Oops, I hadn't been aware of that. Thx. c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Jack Dodd, OT: acronyms

2010-04-06 Thread Christopher.Birch
Your Meaning May Vary then? c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:23 AM To: NSP group; Richard York Subject: [NSP] Re: Jack Dodd, OT: acronyms On 6 Apr 2010, Richard York wrote:

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Stringing of baroque violins is another can of worms since tension varied widely according to local conventions and personal preferences. There is also the question of equal tension versus progressive tension and whether wound strings should be used for the G and/or D. It is, or at least used

[NSP] Re: kipper box

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Would someone care to admit to a close enough acquaintance with a female baroque violinist to safely enquire about her knicker elastic? I'm working on it ;-) c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
Never tried Infeld. I'm not too keen on the medium dominants but the heavies work well for this purpose. Heavy Evah Pirazzi or Obbligato might do a good job too. I use the mediums on my normal fiddles. c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
This is interesting to me as I have an unreconstructed baroque violin from about 1820 Sorry Tim, but it ain't baroque . . True, this is very late to be referred to as baroque, but if it's unreconstructed it's probably closer to the baroque setup than a real modern violin. Maybe it was

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Christopher.Birch
I have a smallish fiddle with a neck very similar to what is seen on baroque instruments. I have been told by a luthier friend, however, that it probably doesn't even predate 1900. I don't think makers and players have ever been all that conscientious about fitting in with the history books ;-)

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