[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-23 Thread Christopher.Birch
I fully agree with Anthony, and as I have said before, I find it a little odd 
that NSP should be the only instrument in existence for which there is one and 
only one way of playing.
I would credit it with being less restricted than that!
Choyte is just a disparaging word for certain types of ornamentation, used (the 
word) by people who happen not to like it (the ornamentation).

C  


   The beauty of Alice's playing for me is that she puts very tight
   staccato as well as choytes in the same piece. For some of us
   this gives depth and variety and adds more strings to her
   very expressive bow.


Exactly - she can do the staccato or add cuts (to borrow the UP term) etc. as 
her feeling for the music suggests/demands

Adrian is of course entitled to his opinion. He is not, however, entitled to 
demand/dictate that we all share it.

But this has all been said before at length...
Keep smiling.
CsĂ­rz  



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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-21 Thread Anthony Robb

   -- On Sat, 21/5/11, inky-adrian inky-adr...@ntlworld.com wrote:

This is not Northumberland Smallpipe-playing. The player choytes. The
   player slides into notes too. Staccato rules!

   Hello Adrian
   As I made clear to you offlist Alice's playing would not be to your
   taste but I did suggest it would give an idea of her fluency and
   musicality.
   I think it is rather sweeping to suggest there is only one way to play
   the pipes. Even Kennedy North, an avid supporter of Tom Clough (and the
   person who got him down to London to do those amazing recordings), said
   he preferred the very different style of the north Northumberland
   pipers.
   Clearly there have always been pipers that differed in approach from
   the Cloughs and it is inaccurate to suggest that theirs is the only/one
   true way.
   The beauty of Alice's playing for me is that she puts very tight
   staccato as well as choytes in the same piece. For some of us
   this gives depth and variety and adds more strings to her
   very expressive bow.
   Onward  upward
   Anthony

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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-21 Thread Anthony Robb

   --- On Sat, 21/5/11, Zack Arbios zaxco...@aol.com wrote:

   Reminds me of the epic gulf between Seumas Macneill and Gordon Duncan.
   For Adrian, Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? (and I am
   a great admirer of what I can see of your playing)
   I enjoyed Emily's playing, although it far eclipses my ability for any
   forseeable future, but does provide one more goal to try for. Similarly
   catching up in any small way with your playing is a laudable goal.

   I've still got pdfs of Troy's Wedding in those 4 keys which I've zipped
   and sent to one list member. If any one else with an extended-range
   chanter would like copies for some interesting finger/key exercise
   please contact me offlist.
   Cheers
   Anthony

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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Delightful, and what a weird and wonderful approach to the harp!
C 

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:29 PM
To: Dartmouth NPS
Subject: [NSP] Alice Burn


   Hello folks
   There may be one or two apart from Adrian interested in the Alice
   person.
   Here she is playing with Emily Hoile at the Chantry Museum 
last night
   for the Windy Gyle Band Force 6 launch. This won't be to everyone's
   liking but gives a flavour of what she  Emily get up to 
when left to
   their own devices. Aplogies for overloads, I started my 
Edirol running
   and then totally neglected the levels - Emily's harp shook 
the living
   daylights out of it!
   [1]http://www.robbpipes.com/AliceEmily
   Cheers
   Anthony
   P.S. it was a grand night - thank you Anne M.

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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-20 Thread inky-adrian
   This is not Northumberland Smallpipe-playing. The player choytes. The
   player slides into notes too. Staccato rules!

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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-20 Thread John Dally
   Going where angels fear to tread

   I know Inky is defending the one true faith and all that, which I
   respect, but when one falls back onto technique as the ultimate while
   seeming to not hear amazing technique (even if one doesn't agree
   philosophically with all of it) one's argument is made to appear as a
   leaky boat upon choppy waters.  As for choytes and slides, the comments
   look like the kind of axe fall I've seen on many a judging sheet in
   Highland piping competions:  I'd hate to see Northumbrian
   Smallpipe-playing go in that direction.

   Stiletto heels!   ;-)

   John



   On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, inky-adrian
   [1]inky-adr...@ntlworld.com wrote:

   This is not Northumberland Smallpipe-playing. The player choytes.
 The
   player slides into notes too. Staccato rules!
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[NSP] Re: Alice Burn - hear Emily play

2011-05-20 Thread Zack Arbios

Reminds me of the epic gulf between Seumas Macneill and Gordon Duncan.

For Adrian, Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? (and I am 
a great admirer of what I can see of your playing)
I enjoyed Emily's playing, although it far eclipses my ability for any 
forseeable future, but does provide one more goal to try for. Similarly 
catching up in any small way with your playing is a laudable goal.


Zack Arbios, new guy



On 5/20/2011 7:41 PM, John Dally wrote:

Going where angels fear to tread

I know Inky is defending the one true faith and all that, which I
respect, but when one falls back onto technique as the ultimate while
seeming to not hear amazing technique (even if one doesn't agree
philosophically with all of it) one's argument is made to appear as a
leaky boat upon choppy waters.  As for choytes and slides, the comments
look like the kind of axe fall I've seen on many a judging sheet in
Highland piping competions:  I'd hate to see Northumbrian
Smallpipe-playing go in that direction.

Stiletto heels!   ;-)

John



On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, inky-adrian
[1]inky-adr...@ntlworld.com  wrote:

This is not Northumberland Smallpipe-playing. The player choytes.
  The
player slides into notes too. Staccato rules!
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