Could he be left handed or is the print
backwards, I wonder.
In fact the whole thing is left-handed so either of the above explanations are
possible.
More puzzling is the painting (Dutch 17th C) of a bellowspiper in Carbisdale
Castle / Yoof Hostel, which is normal except that the piper has
Hi Honor,
I'm no expert, but I think quite a lot of bagpipe iconography depicts
the bag under the right arm. I have no idea whether or not that is due
to the artist (obviously it is in the case of original paintings) or
the printmaker reversing things.
You'll see another example in David
Hi Richard,
I haven't got my physics head on this morning, but would this be anything to
do with the fact that many painters used a sort of camera obscura device to
project the model onto a canvas, then did a quick sketch round the projected
image, I can never get my head round whether the
On 13 Jan 2009 at 17:52, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
Are you saying these words
'Come gie's a sang Montgomery cried ...'
fit the 'Reel of Tullochgorum' tune (they do) or the ex-strathspey
that's found in Peacock (they fit that too).
In what follows I will refer to the tune
On 14 Jan 2009 at 9:43, tim rolls BT wrote:
Hi Richard,
I haven't got my physics head on this morning, but would this be
anything to do with the fact that many painters used a sort of camera
obscura device to project the model onto a canvas, then did a quick
sketch round the projected
Those words were written for the old tune of Tullochgorum (not 'Jimmy
Allan'). The old tune survives in very many written versions, in both
reel and strathspey arrangements. The reel versions are, as far as I
can tell, older. Many reels were converted to strathspeys later, from
the evidence I have
On 14 Jan 2009 at 10:28, Matt Seattle wrote:
Those words were written for the old tune of Tullochgorum (not 'Jimmy
Allan').
Hi Matt,
Are you aware of any historic publication which contains both the
words and music. The song has eight lines to a verse. I would tend
to try and fit them to
I think this business of expressing rhythms in terms of word s or word
groupings is fraught with difficulty as it depends on the emphasis with which
you say the words. Any actor will tell you it is possible to say words or
groups of words in many different ways and although it may be fun to use
In a message dated 14/01/2009 00:24:15 GMT Standard Time,
richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk writes:
http://nms.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-579-620-C
UP chanter all right, on the knee, but more like BP drones?
The artist doesn't show what the tune looked like though!
Printing does give a mirror image, so unless the artist flips it in his
head, that's what you get.
John
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Hi Barry,
I find it interesting, as well, that in other David Allan pictures (e.
g. the famous 'Highland Wedding at Blair Atholl' that is believed to
show Neil Gow) the other instrumentalists are depicted playing in the
normal way. In that particular picture the bagpiper in the background
is
On 1/14/09, Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
Are you aware of any historic publication which contains both the
words and music. The song has eight lines to a verse. I would tend
to try and fit them to ABB of the tune, because lines 5-8 and 9-12
contain many similar words, but without
Gosh, some interesting points here today.
Anyone know when that actual rule of placing buttons differently for men and
women originated?
I suppose one would have to check both sexes to see if they are both
reversed.
This topic comes up on quite a regular basis regarding prints of the hurdy
On 14 Jan 2009 at 13:24, Matt Seattle wrote:
Song No 289 Scots Musical Museum (see Note in GNTB - this is what the
Notes are there for, hint hint!).
Thanks Matt,
Personally, I think it would be a good idea if information such as
you and others have assembled in the notes to GNTB and other
For
Reel of Tullochgoram Thomas Wilson's
read
Reel of Tullochgoram in Thomas Wilson's
For unch read bunch
For tases read tastes
Sorry Folks, not good enough.
(Slaps own wrist and removes egg from face)
Barry
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I have a large collection (= hundreds) of original prints of pipers (of
all kinds) going back to the 15th century - OK, I'll admit that I've
only got a single one from the 15^th century! ;-) - and thousand of
illustrations of other (pre-classical) wind instruments.
Pipers with
There were certainly engravers who got it wrong (perhaps as a result of the
system of mirrors that they may have used), but the vast majority were
professionals who were well aware that the ultimate product would be a
mirror image of what was on the plate.
Cheers,
Paul Gretton
-Original
Among old Cape Breton Scottish pipers there seems to have been no set
side on which to play the pipes and photos show both left and right
shouldered pipers. Some also played with hands reversed such as the late
Alex Currie who had started as a piper who played with the bag under teh
right arm
On 1/14/09, Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
Personally, I think it would be a good idea if information such as
you and others have assembled in the notes to GNTB and other
publications. Could be arranged in a computer readable form
especially if other researchers could then add to the
Dunno about ladies, but I believe that gents have the buttons arranged
so the coat/whatever hangs allowing you to be able to draw a sword -
kept on the left - with the right hand.
Or is this one of those moments when the bells Klaxons go off as I
present yet another urban myth?
(It's also why
Ref mistakes in pictorial depictions of pipers . As someone mentioned
earlier ''There are also examples in Hugh Cheape's recent book about
bagpipes.''
I haven't read Hugh Cheape's book but quite a few years ago he had an
article published in the LBPS magazine, Common Stock highlighting the many
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