[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well Ruggiero Ricci says that when he was 15 he played the Ernst concerto for Heifetz, who was duly impressed but commented but you need to be able to sight-read it. I suppose one has to practise like hell to get the technique in the first place and then just keep on playing whatever comes

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hear hear! -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Eskenazi Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:16 PM To: Anthony Robb Cc: cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; gibbonssoi...@aol.com Subject: [NSP] Re:

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread STEPHEN DOUGLASS
Chris, The lack of 'improvisation' runs inline with the omnipotence of the composer and bigger orchestras in Romantic period. Hard to improvise in this context! But is this really decline, or the 'rot set(ting) in'??? Steve D Steve D On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:53 AM,

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
Stephen: The lack of 'improvisation' runs inline with the omnipotence of the composer and bigger orchestras in Romantic period. Hard to improvise in this context! True. But is this really decline, or the 'rot set(ting) in'??? Well it was the loss of a skill. Whether it was the rot

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread brimor
Yes, Chris, you are absolutely right both about amatuer orchestras and that among the enormous amount of people who took music lessons in the 20th century the arts of playing by ear, improvizing etc did appear to have been lost. However, I remember that in one section of the final exam for

[NSP] Improvisation V Interpretation

2009-12-02 Thread STEPHEN DOUGLASS
Colin, Bringing this back to Northumbrian pipes (hopefully) Is the skill of improvisation, the same as interpretation? The first, I would suggest is based on a spontaneous approach during one performance. Interpretation, or the internalisation that Anthony was alluding to, is a

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Christopher.Birch
John: I haven't damned 'classical musicians' at all. I wasn't accusing you personally of damning classical musicians. Sorry if it came over that way. Some people, including some who should no better, do damn classical musicians, however, and even take a pride in their own inability to read

[NSP] Re: From notation to music

2009-12-02 Thread Anthony Robb
What a long, long way we've wandered from my initial point! No one can take any pride at all in not having a skill and I for one know no by ear leaner who would not wish to add the skill of sight-reading to their box of repertoire-expanding tools. For many it simply wasn't an