I actually rather like the 2nd viennese school version, especially with the 
15/16 bars at the end of strains!
c 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
>[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John
>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:12 PM
>To: 'NSP group'
>Subject: [NSP] Re: Rotting of The Cotton Threads
>
>With the typographical huge leaps removed - these age-yellowed 
>whisky-stained MS abc files are a b---r to read.
>
>X:2
>T: The Rotting of the Cotton Threads
>C:Trad?
>M:4/4
>Q:1/4=60
>L:1/8
>K:A dor
> g>||:f| e<A A>c B<D E>B| e>f g>e B>e B/Ge/|e<A A>c B<D E>B| 
>c>d e/d/c/d/ e<A A> :|
>c|e>f e>a a<c d>e| f>g a>f d<A f>d|  e>f e>a a<c d>f| e>f 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A>||
>c|e>f e>a a<c d>e| f>g a>f  b<e f>d|(3 efg (3 agf (3 gfe 
>(3fed| e>f g/f/e/d/ e<A A>||
>||:f|e<c e>A G<B E>B|e>B g>B e/d/c/B/ c>f|e<c e>A G<B E>B|e>B 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A>:||
>G|E>F E>A C<E A,>C|E>G A>c d<A f>d| E>F E>A C<E A,>c|e>f 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A>||
>G|E>F E>A C<E A,>C|E>G A>c d<A f<a| (3bag (3agf (3gfe (3fed| 
>e>f g/f/e/d/ e<A A2||
>
>John
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gibbons, John 
>Sent: 17 January 2011 12:46
>To: NSP group
>Subject: RE: [NSP] Re: Rotting of The Cotton Threads
>
>Richard,
>Your discovery is a good one, but the rhythm of the title 
>''The Rotting of the Cotton Threads'' is so clearly a 
>Strathspey, as Francis noted, that I looked elsewhere in the 
>archive. On a moth eaten, yellowing, and (Speyside) 
>whisky-stained sheet of paper I found:
>
>X:2
>T: The Rotting of the Cotton Threads
>C:Trad?
>M:4/4
>Q:1/4=60
>L:1/8
>K:A dor
> g.||:f/| e<A A>c b<D E>B| e>f g>e B>e B/Ge/|e<A A>c b<D E>B| 
>c>d e/d/c/d/ e<A A. :|
>c/|e>f e>a a<c d>e| f>g a>f d<A f>d|  e>f e>a a<c d>f| e>f 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A.||
>c/|e>f e>a a<c d>e| f>g a>f  b<e f>d|(3 efg (3 agf (3 gfe 
>(3fed| e>f g/f/e/d/ e<A A.||
>||:f/|e<c e>A G<B E>B|e>B g>B e/d/c/B/ c>f|e<c e>A G<B E>B|e>B 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A.:||
>G/|E>F E>A C<E A,>C|E>G A>c d<A f>d| E>F E>A C<E A,>c|e>f 
>g/f/e/d/ e<A A.||
>G/|E>F E>A C<E A,>C|E>G A>c d<A f<a| (3bag (3agf (3gfe (3fed| 
>e>f g/f/e/d/ e<A A.||
>
>Perhaps this is the one Francis was thinking of?? 
>The title rhythm certainly fits the first bar, so perhaps 
>someone can also discover the missing lyric....
>
>John
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
>[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York
>Sent: 16 January 2011 22:54
>To: NSP group
>Subject: [NSP] Re: Rotting of The Cotton Threads
>
>  In fact I'm sure it would have made more sense with the sections in 
>reverse order. But there you are, that's how I found it.
>R.
>On 16/01/2011 22:45, Richard York wrote:
>>  Arduous research in dusty attics and archives has revealed, 
>Francis, 
>> that I regret it's not a strathspey, more a sort of rhythmic 
>unravelling.
>> I couldn't find anything called "The Rotting of the Cotton 
>Threads" as 
>> such, but this obviously fairly corrupt version called "The 
>Rotting of 
>> the Threads", which is pretty close, I'm sure you'll agree, 
>turned up 
>> among the yellowing manuscripts.
>> It will be seen that the rhythms perhaps reflect the progressive 
>> degeneration of the instrument... though I feel that the copyist has 
>> perhaps put them in reverse order, so that rather than losing a beat 
>> each time, the idee fixe actually gains one.
>> Strange, and rather sad, really.
>> It was hard to read the writing, but I think I transcribed it 
>> correctly. If anyone has a better written out version I'll be 
>> delighted to see it.
>> I copy it below in abc's
>>
>> X:1
>> T: The Rotting of the Threads
>> C:Trad?
>> M:3/4
>> Q:120
>> L:1/8
>> K:G
>> |:.gA.g.c e/2d/2c/2A/2|.gA.gB d/2B/2A/2G/2|.EAB.c 
>e/2c/2B/2A/2|.DAB.c 
>> d/2B/2A/2G/2:|
>> M:7/8
>> |: .gA.gB.c e/2d/2c/2B/2|.gA.gA.B d/2B/2A/2G/2|\
>> M:3/4
>> .EAB.c e/2c/2B/2A/2 | .DAB.c d/2B/2A/2G/2:||:/
>> M:4/4
>> .gA.gA B.ce/2d/2c/2A/2|.gA.gA B.cd/2B/2A/G/2|
>> M:3/4
>> .EAB.c e/2c/2B/2A/2 |. DAB.c d/2B/2A/2G/2:||:/
>> M:9/8
>> .gAg .ABc .ee/2c/2B/2A/2|.gAg .ABc .dd/2B/2A/2G/2|
>> M:3/4
>> .EAB.c e/2c/2B/2A/2| .DABc .d/2B/2A/2G/2:|
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Richard.
>>
>>
>> On 15/01/2011 00:07, Francis Wood wrote:
>>> A Strathspey, surely?
>>>
>>> Francis
>>> On 14 Jan 2011, at 23:57, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Is 'The rotting of the cotton threads' the title of a 
>tune I haven't
>>>>   learned yet?
>>>
>>>
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