[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
Oops, outlook tells me I've already sent a reply. I wonder what it said... Barry, et al. May I point you to the Dolmetsch dictionary http://www.dolmetsch.com/defss4.htm Thanks, this is very interesting but unfortunately reminds me that dictionaries are not infallible. (I have been working as

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2011-06-21 Thread Julia Say
On 20 Jun 2011, Gibbons, John wrote: stacc. abbreviated form of staccato (Italian: detached, separated) staccare (Italian) to detach, to separate each note The word has its natural meaning, in other words. Stacatissimo is what some people think it means, but it doesn't! I

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2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
that's what I tend to use) that in classical / art music terms these days, a note with a staccato dot should be played half length of what is printed, (so a crotchet becomes a quaver, for instance), This is the convention I'm familiar with too. I find a useful practise technique for NSP, now

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2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
On 21 Jun 2011, at 10:38, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: now that I'm emerging from the doldrums Doldra, surely? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
I forgot to mention the stupid percussion, sorry ;-) c -Original Message- From: Francis Wood [mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:53 AM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Cc: julia@nspipes.co.uk; barr...@nspipes.co.uk; j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk;

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2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Julia and others, I like this reply very much. This has been a good thread and a great endorsement of the varied interests which emerge from and return to the discussion of our favourite instrument. It's also a good demonstration of both the value and the disadvantages of this list

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2011-06-21 Thread Christopher.Birch
And no one threw any tantra C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:17 PM To: julia@nspipes.co.uk Cc: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Hello Julia

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2011-06-21 Thread Gibbons, John
When I was in a choir, a composer of a piece we'd commissioned explained legato, poco staccato and staccato respectively as pah, pom, and pop. For NSP, pah is a no-no, as notes need definite ends. So the spectrum we work between is somewhere between pom and pop. Occasional ventures into

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2011-06-21 Thread Gibbons, John
Most of the argument here seems to be about the word staccato than any great stylistic difference. -Original Message- From: Julia Say [mailto:julia@nspipes.co.uk] Sent: 21 June 2011 10:05 To: barr...@nspipes.co.uk; Gibbons, John Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [NSP] Re:

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2011-06-21 Thread Gibbons, John
In Jacky Layton, and other 4/4's going back to Dixon, playing the semis slightly inegales is a good idea. But still with gaps between! John -Original Message- From: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu [mailto:christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu] Sent: 21 June 2011 10:39 To:

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2011-06-21 Thread Tim Rolls
Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Tim On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:44, Dave S wrote: Colin, that would be popapoms then, er, hope there are no cheerleaders affronted Dave On 6/21/2011 3:31 PM, cwhill wrote: So popadoms then :) Colin Hill On 21/06/2011 12:18, Gibbons,

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2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:54, Tim Rolls wrote: Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Well, which country is this? : Poppadom, Poppadom Pom Pom Pom . . . Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2011-06-21 Thread Dave S
nah Tim, propa poms Dave On 6/21/2011 3:54 PM, Tim Rolls wrote: Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Tim On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:44, Dave S wrote: Colin, that would be popapoms then, er, hope there are no cheerleaders affronted Dave On 6/21/2011 3:31 PM, cwhill wrote: So popadoms

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2011-06-21 Thread Ian Lawther
Thank you Frances.you had me whistling the Radetzky March while cooking breakfast.I'm probably stuck with it for the day! Ian Francis Wood wrote: On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:54, Tim Rolls wrote: Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Well, which country is this? :

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2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
P On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:51, Richard York wrote: Then there's the Beethoven version- poppopaDOM Or this, anyone? Poppadom, Poppadom, Poppadom-pom ? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2011-06-21 Thread Gibbons, John
Or poppaDOMpompompom POPpadom? -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: 21 June 2011 16:29 To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead P On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:51, Richard York wrote: Then

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2011-06-21 Thread barry07
Quoting richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk: Is that the crispy stuff they put in their toblerone's, then? Toblerone's? trombones? - whatever! Who can Tell? Richard The Lone Ranger, of course. Tonto To get on or off this list see list information at

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2011-06-21 Thread simon
I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Sent: Jun 21, 2011 4:36 PM Or poppaDOMpompompom

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2011-06-21 Thread simon
I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Sent: Jun 21, 2011 4:36 PM Or poppaDOMpompompom

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2011-06-21 Thread Tim Rolls
Served up by Sir Adrian Boulti ? T On 21 Jun 2011, at 16:58, si...@leveau8.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York

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2011-06-21 Thread Ian Lawther
As I need to make a birthday cake for tomorrow I am likely to be doing some piping. Ian si...@leveau8.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To:

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2011-06-21 Thread barry07
Quoting Richard York rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk: All of which goes to show that it's really, really difficult writing down on paper the precise quality of something which we hear and/or play in such a way that other people can do it. Perhaps Aural Transmission really is the best method.

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2011-06-21 Thread Malcolm Craven
Nice one Barry. I particularly like the idea of 'Stairway to heaven' on a castrated! Lovely vision Malcolm To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
On 21 Jun 2011, at 23:13, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: PS my spellchecker offered as alternatives to 'stratocaster': 'toastmaster' or castrated. Ah! the wonders of a digital age. Don't know about 'toastmaster', but 'castrated' is a proper musical term. In Italian, that is. More seriously,

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2011-06-21 Thread Richard York
Meanwhile I'm working on my next piece for the competitions later in the year. I've got as far as Dum poppapoppapoppadum poppa, but can't decide if it should be dum or pop next. Thoughtful and considered artistic advice of a sensitive nature would be most welcome, please.