Hello Margaret
Thanks for that. I hear what you say re Jimmy but this is hardly an
obscure tune and it seems strange that he would pluck that name out of
the air as any other tune with that name is proving elusive.
As for the version in question you can hear it here:
It's clear that some people in the early/mid 20th C called it Shield's Hornpipe.
Is there any evidence of this title from before 1900?
From before 1850?
You have to push the 'Shield's Hornpipe' title back to 1770, the first ghostly
appearance of 'The Morpeth Rant' in Vickers' contents page,
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Anthony
Robb [1]anth...@robbpipes.com wrote:
The matter of real importance and certainty, of course, is that it
has
survived in various forms and is a cracking tune.
Agreed, Anthony!
And thanks for reminding us about Phil
On 15 Jul 2011, at 09:48, Matt Seattle wrote:
I am fascinated by the 'soup' that accompanies traditional tunes, the
lore which has its own reality but is different from 'facts'. It is not
inconceivable that Shield composed the Morpeth Rant; I have seen no
evidence that convinces me he
Proof at last!
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Francis Wood
[1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Shield is buried in Westminster Abbey, adjacent to Muzio Clementi, the
first really significant composer for the piano and subsequent piano
manufacturer. Clementi was 'discovered'
On 15 Jul 2011, at 10:41, Francis Wood wrote:
Few people would now play Miss Forbes' Farewell to Banff at the speed Isaac
Cooper intended it, as a slow song.
I think history and evolution have been fairly kind to Isaac Cooper. A lively
'Miss Forbes' Farewell' is a cracking tune!
Other
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Francis Wood
[1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:
I think history and evolution have been fairly kind to Isaac Cooper. A
lively 'Miss Forbes' Farewell' is a cracking tune!
Yes, history, evolution, and Will Atkinson. His is the 'definitive',
most
Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com:
Another 'traditional' tune, J.L Dunk's Whin Shields on the Wall was
unplayable nonsense when given to the NPS in a literate-looking but
impossible manuscript. Someone, probably the editor Gilbert Askew
has bashed it into the excellent
On 15 Jul 2011, Francis Wood wrote:
there is an odd, tenuous and completely inconsequential connection between
Shield and Morpeth. Shield is buried in Westminster Abbey.
Shield did not include the tune in his 1817 book: he did include other tunes he
had
collected. There is an article
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, Francis Wood [1]oatenp...@googlemail.com
wrote:Matt's question raises the interesting issue of how tunes by
known composers become 'traditional tunes' (what does that really
mean?)
Hello Francis
A rather good question. The full title of the 'Folk' degree
On 15 Jul 2011, at 10:41, Francis Wood wrote:
Finally, there is an odd, tenuous and completely inconsequential connection
between Shield and Morpeth.
. . . .and another odd, inconsequential and irrelevant fact in the present
discussion. Shield is buried under the same stone as Salomon who
Well, this is what Dunk actually wrote, transcribed in abc from the very clear
manuscript in the possession of the NPS:
X:NPS Collection
T:Whin Shields on the Wall
C:John L. Dunk
Q:1/4=100
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:G
z6 d2 |B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB |c2E2
E2FG |ABcd
Impressive, Francis. Now you've even uncovered where Shield has been
Haydn for all these years.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Francis Wood
[1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 15 Jul 2011, at 10:41, Francis Wood wrote:
Finally, there is an odd, tenuous and completely
Hello Matt
Lovely!
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, Matt Seattle theborderpi...@googlemail.com
wrote:
From: Matt Seattle theborderpi...@googlemail.com
Subject: [NSP] Re: Shield's H'pipe
To: NSP group nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 12:42
Impressive,
On 15 Jul 2011, at 14:48, Dave S wrote:
The Arethusa is from a musical farce called Lock and Key and in the British
Minstrelsy the melody is assigned to Shield.
Hi Dave,
That's interesting!
More here:
http://www.contemplator.com/sea/arethusa.html
Francis
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Hi Francis,
yes interesting indeed - the midi sounds like a minor plagiarize from a
Purcell air in Dmin -- or bits of downfall of the djinn -- perhaps
O'Carolan varied a tune based on Purcell or was it vice-versa -- I
looked in Anderson vol 1 for Morpeth rant but could not find it -- does
I've had a request for a piper to lead a procession into Truro cathedral (yes,
really, I do know where it is!).
On offer is expenses, a very modest fee, and accommodation if required.
This is an event on Fri July 29, in the evening. (so it's a bit urgent)
If anyone would like to take it up,
On 15 Jul 2011, at 16:59, Gibbons, John wrote:
But it's so free-form that it sounds like he was drunk when he wrote it.
H . . . Dunk and disorderly.
Francis
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from the last couple of mail it's a critiques slam dunk
Dave
H . . . Dunk and disorderly.
Francis
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On 15 Jul 2011, at 12:29, Francis Wood wrote:
. . .and another odd, inconsequential and irrelevant fact in the present
discussion. Shield is buried under the same stone as Salomon who 'brought
Haydn to England' as the inscription states:
. . . Even more oddly, inconsequentially and
Hello to All,
i have just had a question from my Swedish friend who is asking the meaning of
a tune:
On one of Kathryn Tickells earliest recordings on kielder side theres a
happy tune called da slockit light do you know the tune?
which i can only guess means the turned of light?.
What does it
Hi,
It's probably a lighthouse on a promontary called Da Slockit in the
Shetland Islands -- super tune on NSP.
Tom Anderson wrote some superb melodies for violin --- and the Kielder
is a village and a river
Dave S
On 7/15/2011 10:43 PM, Kevin wrote:
Hello to All,
i have just had a question
Da Slockit Light.
This is a Shetland tune written by Tom Anderson, who was a towering
figure in Shetland fiddling.
I understand that it was written following the death of his wife when
he felt that the way of life he was familiar with was vanishing.
I know little of Shetland, but when I
Kevin,
Tom Anderson, who wrote it, explained in an interview in 1970, printed in his
book ''Ringing Strings''
''I was coming out of Eshaness in late January 1969,the time was after 11pm and
as I looked back at the top of the hill leading out of the district I saw so
few lights compared to
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