Re: [NSWolves] Managers
Getting up in the middle of the night means nothing. I've got kids to play with in the daytime. The game isn't even televised in the UK - are you saying everyone who didn't go to the game isn't a supporter? You wanted the manager gone. You got it. You've got a new manger that you want gone after 97 minutes. You want the CEO and owner gone as well as wanting many of the players gone. What's left that you actually want to keep? Wolves are in a better position now than at *any* time that you have supported them, so if you don't like them now then I reckon you're never going to like them. On 26 February 2012 18:19, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: The only thing that is hilarious is that you are questioning my support for Wolves when you can't be arsed getting up to watch a match and form your own opinion on how we have played. No reasonable person (who had bothered to watch the match) would openly state that the first 45 minutes of the match this morning were anything other than dire. If you can provide evidential proof that the first 45 minutes of the match was better than anything we achieved under Mick's reign then I'll admit the error of my ways. On 26/02/2012, at 17:14 , Steven Millward wrote: The manager position is a job that needs doing but is relatively unimportant for all the reasons I've explained. Take Lyon as an example. They won the French league seven times in a row with four different managers. The club had no qualms about changing the manager as it was just seen as a functional position. The cult of manager is important to fans because they've been led to believe it's important. It's in everyone's interest to have ascapegoat that deflects from the owners failure to spend enough money. Anyway, why are you getting back on to that? It's been done to death. This is about you not giving a new bloke a chance and constantly moaning about the club that you support. Why not go and support another club that gives you more satisfaction? Life-long fandom is apparently quite rare. Nobody is forcing you to support Wolves. It clearly pisses you off most of the time so why bother? Supposed failures? They were sacked from clubs with the fans feeling the same way you felt about McCarthy if not even more vitriolic. Pardew was hounded out by fans at a three hour sit in a after a game. You can't have it both ways. Hughes and Coyle are supposedly good managers, liked by several knowledgable football people I know, but are doing a rubbish job now, therefore must be bad managers by your reasoning. People might want to have belief and confidence in the person managing their club but if the players aren't good enough then the team is unlikely to win often enough. It's either a fact or a 59,000,000,000 to one coincidence that the league tables line up like that. On 26 February 2012 16:33, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: So why is fan opinion so important when appointing a manager? Why is everyone asking for Redknapp to manage England when anyone can do it. At the end of the day people what to have belief and confidence in the person managing their club. If the manager wasn't important then I'm sure the thousands of clubs around the world would have done away with the position many decades ago. The managers mentioned below are all doing a good job with their current clubs despite being supposed failures at prior clubs. Mick started to fail towards the end of his wolves career but may go onto to be a success again at a championship club, which seems to be his natural level. Sent from my iPhone On 26/02/2012, at 12:49 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: Hilarious. How else do you assess someone for a job? What's the point in interviewing or reading the CV of any person for any job if, as you say, their previous experience and performance is of no importance? So if Mick does well somewhere else you'll admit he is a good manager (and by your reasoning always has been)? Any sensible person would say that the manager is not the variable that affects performance. If they are bad at one club and good at another then maybe their input iis limited. On 26 February 2012 12:12, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the point in assessing managers on what they've done in the past? Each of the managers that I mentioned have had a significant impact in their current roles and their teams are doing much better than our own. The past is history, just like Mick McCarthy, so stop using managers past records when quite clearly they are all doing alright in their current roles (unlike Mick because he's unemployed). On 26/02/2012, at 07:46 , Steven Millward wrote: Sigh. This is the same Pardew that got sacked by West Ham, Southampton and Charlton within four seasons? This is the same Hodgson that got sacked by Liverpool after their worst start to the season for
Re: [NSWolves] Managers
Why do you keep referring to me wanting terry Connor gone? Where have you got that from. The original emails related to a crap first 45 minutes. Nothing more nothing less. Look at the time the emails were sent. I've also never said that anyone who doesn't watch the matches isn't a supporter. I do however take offense to people trying pass comment/judgement on a match that they haven't even seen. I again challenge you to watch the first half of the match in its entirety and then tell me we weren't shite. I haven't made any call for terry to be sacked; I said the first 45 was crap and you can't refute it because you haven't seen it. Sent from my iPhone On 26/02/2012, at 7:13 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: Getting up in the middle of the night means nothing. I've got kids to play with in the daytime. The game isn't even televised in the UK - are you saying everyone who didn't go to the game isn't a supporter? You wanted the manager gone. You got it. You've got a new manger that you want gone after 97 minutes. You want the CEO and owner gone as well as wanting many of the players gone. What's left that you actually want to keep? Wolves are in a better position now than at any time that you have supported them, so if you don't like them now then I reckon you're never going to like them. On 26 February 2012 18:19, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: The only thing that is hilarious is that you are questioning my support for Wolves when you can't be arsed getting up to watch a match and form your own opinion on how we have played. No reasonable person (who had bothered to watch the match) would openly state that the first 45 minutes of the match this morning were anything other than dire. If you can provide evidential proof that the first 45 minutes of the match was better than anything we achieved under Mick's reign then I'll admit the error of my ways. On 26/02/2012, at 17:14 , Steven Millward wrote: The manager position is a job that needs doing but is relatively unimportant for all the reasons I've explained. Take Lyon as an example. They won the French league seven times in a row with four different managers. The club had no qualms about changing the manager as it was just seen as a functional position. The cult of manager is important to fans because they've been led to believe it's important. It's in everyone's interest to have ascapegoat that deflects from the owners failure to spend enough money. Anyway, why are you getting back on to that? It's been done to death. This is about you not giving a new bloke a chance and constantly moaning about the club that you support. Why not go and support another club that gives you more satisfaction? Life-long fandom is apparently quite rare. Nobody is forcing you to support Wolves. It clearly pisses you off most of the time so why bother? Supposed failures? They were sacked from clubs with the fans feeling the same way you felt about McCarthy if not even more vitriolic. Pardew was hounded out by fans at a three hour sit in a after a game. You can't have it both ways. Hughes and Coyle are supposedly good managers, liked by several knowledgable football people I know, but are doing a rubbish job now, therefore must be bad managers by your reasoning. People might want to have belief and confidence in the person managing their club but if the players aren't good enough then the team is unlikely to win often enough. It's either a fact or a 59,000,000,000 to one coincidence that the league tables line up like that. On 26 February 2012 16:33, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: So why is fan opinion so important when appointing a manager? Why is everyone asking for Redknapp to manage England when anyone can do it. At the end of the day people what to have belief and confidence in the person managing their club. If the manager wasn't important then I'm sure the thousands of clubs around the world would have done away with the position many decades ago. The managers mentioned below are all doing a good job with their current clubs despite being supposed failures at prior clubs. Mick started to fail towards the end of his wolves career but may go onto to be a success again at a championship club, which seems to be his natural level. Sent from my iPhone On 26/02/2012, at 12:49 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: Hilarious. How else do you assess someone for a job? What's the point in interviewing or reading the CV of any person for any job if, as you say, their previous experience and performance is of no importance? So if Mick does well somewhere else you'll admit he is a good manager (and by your reasoning always has been)? Any sensible person would say that the manager is not the variable that affects performance. If they are bad
RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season..
Well Jeremy you can celebrate both the No End of Club and the Wage Bill From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Up to this morning I thought we might be having an 'end of club' meeting L I did enjoy watching the u/18's come back from a goal down three times against Manure! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 3:18 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. ..Our Wage Bill Kept us Up Meeting if we do avoid relegation? -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out!
RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season..
I'm celebrating big time. . and we got a point at Newcastle!!! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 9:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Well Jeremy you can celebrate both the No End of Club and the Wage Bill From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Up to this morning I thought we might be having an 'end of club' meeting L I did enjoy watching the u/18's come back from a goal down three times against Manure! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 3:18 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. ..Our Wage Bill Kept us Up Meeting if we do avoid relegation? -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out!
RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season..
Yes From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 10:22 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Getting concerned here. Are you having a beer for each celebration, a dinner or both as in the old days? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 9:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. I'm celebrating big time. . and we got a point at Newcastle!!! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 9:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Well Jeremy you can celebrate both the No End of Club and the Wage Bill From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. Up to this morning I thought we might be having an 'end of club' meeting L I did enjoy watching the u/18's come back from a goal down three times against Manure! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 3:18 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Are we having an end of season.. ..Our Wage Bill Kept us Up Meeting if we do avoid relegation? -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out!
[NSWolves] Toon Game [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
UNCLASSIFIED Well if ever there was a game of two halves that was it; First half, generally appalling, thought we were terrible although the second goal was a little unlicky Newcastle can consider themselves worthy of at least a 2-0 lead. Second half, gives me optimism, we were equally deserved of a two goal advantage, and overall a draw was probably about right. Doyle was much improved, the most obvious change for me, apart from a move away from wing play...or was I imaganing that?...Johnson for err please. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Curbishley out!
RE: [NSWolves] Toon Game [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Well I thought http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313160 http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313160postcount=8 postcount=8 and http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313175 http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313175postcount=14 postcount=14 even this as well http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313182 http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=1313182postcount=16 postcount=16 My eyes started getting tired at this point and I stopped doing anymore thinking. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012 9:07 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Toon Game [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Well if ever there was a game of two halves that was it; First half, generally appalling, thought we were terrible although the second goal was a little unlicky Newcastle can consider themselves worthy of at least a 2-0 lead. Second half, gives me optimism, we were equally deserved of a two goal advantage, and overall a draw was probably about right. Doyle was much improved, the most obvious change for me, apart from a move away from wing play...or was I imaganing that?...Johnson for err please. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out!
