RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching?
I agree with Elliot, We haven't been in the drop zone - we're a win off 14th on goal difference (y'day we were a win off 11th!!). The three teams below don't look like getting above us. Wigan a point v Chelsea! Only cos Chelsea gave it to them. It looked like Wolves of 5 years ago defending in the last few minutes in that one. Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn are genuinely woeful. We're moderately better than all three and at times better than the three or five teams above us. JT Well said Mallard... I really thought that nobody could exceed Marcus's negativity, closely followed by rog n Paul Crowe, but its happened! We haven't even been in the bottom 3 yet... As for my bet with Paul re sunderland, ambitious but not impossible... Bring on the tooheys red ! Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Steven Millward millward@gmail.com To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Date: Sun, Dec 18, 2011 2:15 pm I doubt it. Mick will be at the helm for years to come On 18 December 2011 12:10, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Marcus, I think a loss against Norwich will be the final nail. I don't think we will survive this season but what is the point of keeping MM to get us back up again only to fizzle out again due to lack of investment/ poor selection of new players. I'm glad I'm not having to sit through all that at the Molineux. Oh well Doncaster here we come. Doyle, fletch and Jarvis all offloaded will give moxey a giant erection when he gets the cheques in . Bah humbug Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 9:18 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Nope not really. A couple of boos at the final whistle but aside from a vocal first 10 minutes of cheering the crowd may as well have stayed home.. Sent from my iPad On 18/12/2011, at 7:55, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching?
Agreed. If I had such unrealistic expectations of my team, I think I'd find another hobby rather than be so miserable. The upsetting thing with turn-crowe-t is that he used to be one of us. Boo! On 18 December 2011 17:24, elliotd...@hotmail.com elliotd...@hotmail.comwrote: Well said Mallard... I really thought that nobody could exceed Marcus's negativity, closely followed by rog n Paul Crowe, but its happened! We haven't even been in the bottom 3 yet... As for my bet with Paul re sunderland, ambitious but not impossible... Bring on the tooheys red ! Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Steven Millward millward@gmail.com To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Date: Sun, Dec 18, 2011 2:15 pm I doubt it. Mick will be at the helm for years to come On 18 December 2011 12:10, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Marcus, I think a loss against Norwich will be the final nail. I don't think we will survive this season but what is the point of keeping MM to get us back up again only to fizzle out again due to lack of investment/ poor selection of new players. I'm glad I'm not having to sit through all that at the Molineux. Oh well Doncaster here we come. Doyle, fletch and Jarvis all offloaded will give moxey a giant erection when he gets the cheques in . Bah humbug Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 9:18 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Nope not really. A couple of boos at the final whistle but aside from a vocal first 10 minutes of cheering the crowd may as well have stayed home.. Sent from my iPad On 18/12/2011, at 7:55, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Guess what Paul, It won't happen. Y!MMMFL -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 9:05 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender
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How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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UNCLASSIFIED Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent
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Well said Sarge Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 10:00 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chancesaloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remainsthe property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we should expect to be in the league? Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with the remaining 10% being down to luck, club structure, back room set up, youth academy and manager, then we're talking about maybe 3% being down to Mick. It seems irrational to me to blame Mick for something that it barely his responsibility. Is it a cultural thing? That football fans revert to blaming the manager because it's seen as the thing to do to appear knowledgeable. Or is it a form of denial of the facts because the facts are too unpleasant to accept? You link two points together that don't seem to be linked. Firstly that the team should be improving? Why is this? What should Wolves be doing that will make their team improve relative to every other team? Monkey glands? Spiritual healers? Secondly, that the squad should have been strengthened. Mick reflects club policy. I'm sure he'd like to have a load of players on 80 grand a week but he can't. If someone you work with focussed on something that you knew had very little impact on performance (say 3%), and ignored the things that you knew did have an impact on performance (say 90%), how would you view him? On 19 December 2011 10:08, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris
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Lies, damned lies and statistics, inshallah, Nihilism. it, I'm going for a drink instead. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 10:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what (unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to take the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the premier league he shouldn't have got us promoted. Out of interest, anyone know what the wage bills are for Norwich or Swansea? Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 10:37 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we should expect to be in the league? Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with the remaining 10% being down to luck, club structure, back room set up, youth academy and manager, then we're talking about maybe 3% being down to Mick. It seems irrational to me to blame Mick for something that it barely his responsibility. Is it a cultural thing? That football fans revert to blaming the manager because it's seen as the thing to do to appear knowledgeable. Or is it a form of denial of the facts because the facts are too unpleasant to accept? You link two points together that don't seem to be linked. Firstly that the team should be improving? Why is this? What should Wolves be doing that will make their team improve relative to every other team? Monkey glands? Spiritual healers? Secondly, that the squad should have been strengthened. Mick reflects club policy. I'm sure he'd like to have a load of players on 80 grand a week but he can't. If someone you work with focussed on something that you knew had very little impact on performance (say 3%), and ignored the things that you knew did have an impact on performance (say 90%), how would you view him? On 19 December 2011 10:08, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He
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Utter rubbish On 19 December 2011 11:55, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what (unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to take the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the premier league he shouldn't have got us promoted. Out of interest, anyone know what the wage bills are for Norwich or Swansea? Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 10:37 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we should expect to be in the league? Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with the remaining 10% being down to luck, club structure, back room set up, youth academy and manager, then we're talking about maybe 3% being down to Mick. It seems irrational to me to blame Mick for something that it barely his responsibility. Is it a cultural thing? That football fans revert to blaming the manager because it's seen as the thing to do to appear knowledgeable. Or is it a form of denial of the facts because the facts are too unpleasant to accept? You link two points together that don't seem to be linked. Firstly that the team should be improving? Why is this? What should Wolves be doing that will make their team improve relative to every other team? Monkey glands? Spiritual healers? Secondly, that the squad should have been strengthened. Mick reflects club policy. I'm sure he'd like to have a load of players on 80 grand a week but he can't. If someone you work with focussed on something that you knew had very little impact on performance (say 3%), and ignored the things that you knew did have an impact on performance (say 90%), how would you view him? On 19 December 2011 10:08, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder
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What? The wages of Swansea and Norwich are rubbish but they're still above us. Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 11:57 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: Utter rubbish On 19 December 2011 11:55, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what (unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to take the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the premier league he shouldn't have got us promoted. Out of interest, anyone know what the wage bills are for Norwich or Swansea? Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 10:37 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we should expect to be in the league? Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with the remaining 10% being down to luck, club structure, back room set up, youth academy and manager, then we're talking about maybe 3% being down to Mick. It seems irrational to me to blame Mick for something that it barely his responsibility. Is it a cultural thing? That football fans revert to blaming the manager because it's seen as the thing to do to appear knowledgeable. Or is it a form of denial of the facts because the facts are too unpleasant to accept? You link two points together that don't seem to be linked. Firstly that the team should be improving? Why is this? What should Wolves be doing that will make their team improve relative to every other team? Monkey glands? Spiritual healers? Secondly, that the squad should have been strengthened. Mick reflects club policy. I'm sure he'd like to have a load of players on 80 grand a week but he can't. If someone you work with focussed on something that you knew had very little impact on performance (say 3%), and ignored the things that you knew did have an impact on performance (say 90%), how would you view him? On 19 December 2011 10:08, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received thisemail in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of StevenMillward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price
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It's short term noise. You could have said the same about Blackpool last season and Burley the season before that. There is always variation. If it were a perfect science then it would be entirely predictable. Swansea and Norwich might finish where they are now but they are the exceptions that prove the rule. I don't understand how when you are so reliant on statistical analysis to do your job fifty hours a week you won't accept it here. On 19 December 2011 12:00, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: What? The wages of Swansea and Norwich are rubbish but they're still above us. Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 11:57 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: Utter rubbish On 19 December 2011 11:55, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what (unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to take the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the premier league he shouldn't have got us promoted. Out of interest, anyone know what the wage bills are for Norwich or Swansea? Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 10:37 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote: So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we should expect to be in the league? Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with the remaining 10% being down to luck, club structure, back room set up, youth academy and manager, then we're talking about maybe 3% being down to Mick. It seems irrational to me to blame Mick for something that it barely his responsibility. Is it a cultural thing? That football fans revert to blaming the manager because it's seen as the thing to do to appear knowledgeable. Or is it a form of denial of the facts because the facts are too unpleasant to accept? You link two points together that don't seem to be linked. Firstly that the team should be improving? Why is this? What should Wolves be doing that will make their team improve relative to every other team? Monkey glands? Spiritual healers? Secondly, that the squad should have been strengthened. Mick reflects club policy. I'm sure he'd like to have a load of players on 80 grand a week but he can't. If someone you work with focussed on something that you knew had very little impact on performance (say 3%), and ignored the things that you knew did have an impact on performance (say 90%), how would you view him? On 19 December 2011 10:08, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his depth in the PL. Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager. Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch punching well above there weight and they will be even worse with another managerwe just don't know, there lies the risk. What I do know is, the team should be showing more improvement, the squad should have been stregthened more. We all shudder everytime Mick says he doesn't need to sign more / better players because he's happy with his squad. Its Mick's fault we are not improving. Thats the bottom line. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves
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and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 09:01 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How can I explain this more clearly. 90% of the results are down to the quality of players We have the fourth worst players in the league. We have no right to finish above where we currently sit If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players Why do you keep saying its all Mick's fault? On 19 December 2011 09:55, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too. Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement, the manager has to be responsible for that. The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and so it all starts again. *IMPORTANT*: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2011 08:35 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it. The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages. I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom. If the fans really cared they'd offer to pay double the season ticket price to fund better players. Hmmm. On 19 December 2011 09:04, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull, apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on mass! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 8:01 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week. My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hart Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 06:55 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out
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Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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How do a side like Chelsea get caught at the back while leading away from home with 4 mins remaining in a match? -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of paul Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 4:22 AM To: Nsw Wolves Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Nope not really. A couple of boos at the final whistle but aside from a vocal first 10 minutes of cheering the crowd may as well have stayed home. Sent from my iPad On 18/12/2011, at 7:55, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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Thanks Marcus, I think a loss against Norwich will be the final nail. I don't think we will survive this season but what is the point of keeping MM to get us back up again only to fizzle out again due to lack of investment/ poor selection of new players. I'm glad I'm not having to sit through all that at the Molineux. Oh well Doncaster here we come. Doyle, fletch and Jarvis all offloaded will give moxey a giant erection when he gets the cheques in . Bah humbug Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 9:18 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Nope not really. A couple of boos at the final whistle but aside from a vocal first 10 minutes of cheering the crowd may as well have stayed home. Sent from my iPad On 18/12/2011, at 7:55, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Did MM get any abuse ? Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 4:22 AM, paul pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: At least Doyle scored. Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:05:48 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Passing is atrocious. Henry needs to stop the 50 yard speculative passes that go straight to Stoke players. Even the short easy passes are going to their players. Stoke are the dirtiest team in the league. Nasty tackles, elbows, shoving, etc even makes Berra look ok. I hope McCarthy calls them for who they really are. And the tactics won them the match in the 2nd half. -Original Message- From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:36 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? Bad scoreline now and we're creating nothing. Sent from my iPhone On 18/12/2011, at 3:03 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote: Good scoreline but quality of game could be better, especially the crossing. Fletcher hasn't been in the game which is surprising. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
