[NTG-context] Kerning/italic correction problem with TeX Gyre Bonum font

2018-03-10 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Hi Hans and others! I don't know if this is a problem with the font itself or if it is ConTeXt. In any case, the test file below gives strange output (attached). In particular the space/kerning after $f$ seems to be off. Ulrike Fischer reminded me in the StackExchange chat that not so long time

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-31 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/31/2017 8:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM,

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-31 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/31/2017 8:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Den 12

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-31 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-31 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" >: Dear Hans, now,

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-31 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > >> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" > >: >> >> Dear Hans, >> >> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" >: Dear Hans, now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-19 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" : Dear Hans, now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? I

[NTG-context] Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)

2017-07-12 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Dear Hans, now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? I tried kernpairs = { [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, --

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Schmitz Thomas A.
> On 06 Mar 2016, at 15:56, Hans Hagen wrote: > > \setupdelimitedtext > [method=font] Excellent - thanks Hans! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Hans Hagen
On 3/6/2016 2:19 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. wrote: Hi all, short example in extra big size to make the effect visible: \setupbodyfont [termes,48pt] \mainlanguage [de] \starttext „Vater“ \quotation{Vater} \stoptext In the first line, the character „ has a bit of kerning with the following V

[NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Schmitz Thomas A.
Hi all, short example in extra big size to make the effect visible: \setupbodyfont [termes,48pt] \mainlanguage [de] \starttext „Vater“ \quotation{Vater} \stoptext In the first line, the character „ has a bit of kerning with the following V (could be even more, to my taste). With

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:22:45 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> Yes, one workaround is to quit math mode. The other to use fonts in >> mode "base". But I would like to understand why workarounds are >> needed at all. > because opentype math fonts are just math fonts (simple for text, rich > for math)

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:13:12 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> In this example there is no kerning and no ligatures in the math: >> >> \starttext >> WAiff $\mfunction{WAiff}$ >> \stoptext >> >> This is a different behaviour than with legacy math fonts. > > depends what legacy is ... I meant the

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11/9/2015 2:06 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Yes, one workaround is to quit math mode. The other to use fonts in mode "base". But I would like to understand why workarounds are needed at all. because opentype math fonts are just math fonts (simple for text, rich for math) Hans

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11/9/2015 2:59 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:22:45 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: Yes, one workaround is to quit math mode. The other to use fonts in mode "base". But I would like to understand why workarounds are needed at all. because opentype math fonts are just math

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:44:34 +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen: > you don't enable kerning but anyhow, In text mode kerning seems to be activated by default, but it doesn't change the output if I add it. > here is a context example: Curious, here I get no kerning at all for arial. I tried all sort of

[NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
In this example there is no kerning and no ligatures in the math: \starttext WAiff $\mfunction{WAiff}$ \stoptext This is a different behaviour than with legacy math fonts. A question about this has been asked some month ago on tex.sx

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and ligatures in math roman font

2015-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11/9/2015 12:39 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: In this example there is no kerning and no ligatures in the math: \starttext WAiff $\mfunction{WAiff}$ \stoptext This is a different behaviour than with legacy math fonts. depends what legacy is ... A question about this has been asked some

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with buggy libertine

2013-08-07 Thread Philipp Gesang
···date: 2013-08-05, Monday···from: Hans Hagen··· On 8/4/2013 3:43 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Hans, this is a bug report thanks to Khaled: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/126650/14066 In short: the font loader applies the kerning of libertine version 5.3.0 even though this appears

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with buggy libertine

2013-08-07 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8/7/2013 10:08 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: It’s that version (5.3.0). To quote Jonathan Kew [1]: And the follow up [2]: it all makes me wonder if otf is that clear and clean and good ... font designers nowadays need to be programmers and close-readers-of-specs too (esp because it seem to

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with buggy libertine

2013-08-07 Thread Philipp Gesang
···date: 2013-08-07, Wednesday···from: Hans Hagen··· On 8/7/2013 10:08 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: It’s that version (5.3.0). To quote Jonathan Kew [1]: And the follow up [2]: it all makes me wonder if otf is that clear and clean and good ... font designers nowadays need to be programmers

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with buggy libertine

2013-08-05 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8/4/2013 3:43 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi Hans, this is a bug report thanks to Khaled: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/126650/14066 In short: the font loader applies the kerning of libertine version 5.3.0 even though this appears to be broken in the font. Context translation of the

[NTG-context] kerning with buggy libertine

2013-08-04 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hi Hans, this is a bug report thanks to Khaled: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/126650/14066 In short: the font loader applies the kerning of libertine version 5.3.0 even though this appears to be broken in the font. Context translation of the example: \definefontfeature [kerning]

[NTG-context] kerning info (mkiv)

2011-01-07 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi, for a text background graphic I need the character box sizes of a given string. I managed to collect the needed info (width, height, depth, kerns), but there is still some flaw in the kerning part. For example: VATo is printed out (in the shell) as V 12 11 0 *kerning

Re: [NTG-context] kerning info (mkiv)

2011-01-07 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 01/07/2011 02:48 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: The character stands in the first column, followed by width, height and depth (in pixel). The *kerning line shows the kerning value (in sp) of the neighbouring character pair. No problem here. But A much longer Test graphic VATo sees no kerning for

Re: [NTG-context] kerning info (mkiv)

2011-01-07 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 07.01.2011 15:13, schrieb Taco Hoekwater: On 01/07/2011 02:48 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: The character stands in the first column, followed by width, height and depth (in pixel). The *kerning line shows the kerning value (in sp) of the neighbouring character pair. No problem here. But A much

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09

2010-06-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-6-2010 10:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy wrote: it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the latest ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the problem, all others looked fine). I've attached a PDF to show the effect.

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09

2010-06-10 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 10.06.2010 um 10:32 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 9-6-2010 10:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy wrote: it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the latest ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the problem, all others looked

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09

2010-06-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 10-6-2010 1:57, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: Am 10.06.2010 um 10:32 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 9-6-2010 10:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy wrote: it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the latest ConTeXt (this is the only font I

[NTG-context] Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09

2010-06-09 Thread Michael Murphy
Hi all, it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the latest ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the problem, all others looked fine). I've attached a PDF to show the effect. -- Michael Murphy min_kern.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09

2010-06-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy wrote: it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the latest ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the problem, all others looked fine). I've attached a PDF to show the effect. Just a blind guess. Some Adobe fonts use

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and Minion Pro

2009-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Andreas Harder wrote: I've a curious problem: With Palatino or Latin Modern kerning seems to work as intended, but what's the matter with Minion (example below)? This appears to be caused by the fact that in MinionPro most (not all, but most) of the kerning is specified via kern

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and Minion Pro

2009-01-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Andreas Harder wrote: Hello, I've a curious problem: With Palatino or Latin Modern kerning seems to work as intended, but what's the matter with Minion (example below)? This appears to be caused by the fact that in MinionPro most (not all, but most) of the kerning is specified via kern

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and Minion Pro

2009-01-17 Thread Andreas Harder
I've a curious problem: With Palatino or Latin Modern kerning seems to work as intended, but what's the matter with Minion (example below)? This appears to be caused by the fact that in MinionPro most (not all, but most) of the kerning is specified via kern classes. Than you for

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning and Minion Pro

2009-01-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Andreas Harder wrote: I've a curious problem: With Palatino or Latin Modern kerning seems to work as intended, but what's the matter with Minion (example below)? This appears to be caused by the fact that in MinionPro most (not all, but most) of the kerning is specified via kern

[NTG-context] Kerning and Minion Pro

2009-01-16 Thread Andreas Harder
Hello, I've a curious problem: With Palatino or Latin Modern kerning seems to work as intended, but what's the matter with Minion (example below)? \setupcolors[state=start] % \mainlanguage[de] \definefontfeature[basekerned][default][mode=base]

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Bart C. Wise wrote: I tried the above code and it failed. I looked around on the ConTeXt site and the web in general. It seems like a \defineproperty[stretch] needs to be declared, but I can't find it anywhere. You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but will you be explicit on how to use

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Bart C. Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang, thanks so much for your help so far. I was able to take the code and make it work correctly to stretch the chapter title. What I want is two lines for a chapter head. For example, Line 1: Chapter One Line 2:

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-13 Thread Bart C. Wise
Wolfgang, Thanks so much for your help! It works exactly as I desire. Bart On Thursday 13 November 2008 01:36:11 am Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Bart C. Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang, thanks so much for your help so far. I was able to take the

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-13 Thread Bart C. Wise
On Thursday 13 November 2008 12:46:27 am Hans Hagen wrote: Bart C. Wise wrote: Wolfgang, thanks so much for your help so far. I was able to take the code and make it work correctly to stretch the chapter title. What I want is two lines for a chapter head. For example, Line 1: Chapter

[NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Bart C. Wise
I am trying to change the spacing of a chapter title head. I found the \kern command; however, I could not get that to work over a string of text. Then I found the following code: \def\dolist{\afterassignment\dodolist\let\next= } \def\dodolist{\ifx\next\endlist \let\next\relax \else

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.11.2008 um 16:48 schrieb Bart C. Wise: I am trying to change the spacing of a chapter title head. I found the \kern command; however, I could not get that to work over a string of text. Then I found the following code: \def\dolist{\afterassignment\dodolist\let\next= }

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Bart C. Wise
Wolfgang, It works! Thanks, Bart On Wednesday 12 November 2008 08:54:49 am Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 12.11.2008 um 16:48 schrieb Bart C. Wise: I am trying to change the spacing of a chapter title head. I found the \kern command; however, I could not get that to work over a string of

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Bart C. Wise
Okay, it works until I place an an argument in the stretched command. def\MyChapterCommand#1#2{ \framed[align=center,frame=off,width=\textwidth]{ \vbox{ fails--\stretched{#2} works--\stretched{This is a Test} }

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.11.2008 um 18:03 schrieb Bart C. Wise: Okay, it works until I place an an argument in the stretched command. def\MyChapterCommand#1#2{ \framed[align=center,frame=off,width=\textwidth]{ \vbox{ fails-- \stretched{#2} works--

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Bart C. Wise
Wolfgang, thanks so much for your help so far. I was able to take the code and make it work correctly to stretch the chapter title. What I want is two lines for a chapter head. For example, Line 1: Chapter One Line 2: Title for Chap 1 I want line 1 to be stretched. Everything I have tried

Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

2008-11-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Bart C. Wise wrote: Wolfgang, thanks so much for your help so far. I was able to take the code and make it work correctly to stretch the chapter title. What I want is two lines for a chapter head. For example, Line 1: Chapter One Line 2: Title for Chap 1 I want line 1 to be

[NTG-context] Kerning and Scaling

2008-08-23 Thread Charles P. Schaum
Hi Folks, I wanted to confirm that Hans is **Correct** about font fitting. In fact, I think that scaling is superior. One thing I did find is that one must go real easy with the scaling, e.g., compute the difference between the size you want/need, and see that it isn't too great, as the test

[NTG-context] kerning and TFM problems

2005-03-21 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, I want to use OSX HelveticaNeue font. So I open it in FontForge and - because I'd like to use the kerning information - generate the Font with its PFB, AFM and TFM files. According to Bill's help page it should work by (renaming and) placing the phnr8r.tfm in its tfm folder, the phnr8a.afm

Re: [NTG-context] kerning and TFM problems

2005-03-21 Thread luigi.scarso
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, I want to use OSX HelveticaNeue font. So I open it in FontForge and - because I'd like to use the kerning information - generate the Font with its PFB, AFM and TFM files. According to Bill's help page it should work by (renaming and) placing the phnr8r.tfm in its tfm

[NTG-context] Kerning pairs for Optima-Italic

2003-10-30 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, after I converted MacOSX's Optima.dfont for usage with TeX I experienced that this Adobe Optima (Regular, Italic, Bold, BoldItalic, ExtraBold) doesn't have extra kerning pairs. (And I don't have any idea how to create these on my own.) So I had a look at WalterSchmidt's page