Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff -

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Curious Learn wrote: \usemodule[taspresent][style=bluegray] BlueGray which is the way it is explained in the manual \starttext A presentation \stoptext Does anyone have an idea why this is

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi Thomas, Hi all, Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with the demo.tex from the module archive. (using last beta 2009.03.18 21:58 MKIV , LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031820) Greetings Lutz 2009/3/19 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de On Mar

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: i removed that one as grepoing didn't have matches; it was meant for some old generic files but i gave up on generic oops, is syst-gen.tex no longer part of the mkiv core? i

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi all, to be more precise, there seems to be no backgrounds at all. Greetings Lutz 2009/3/19 Lutz Haseloff lutz.hasel...@googlemail.com Hi Thomas, Hi all, Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with the demo.tex from the module archive. (using last beta

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with one of my graphics directly ends with

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Dawn, it's hard to keep everything in mind with all your moves and changes. well, now is the time to do some clean up did you notice

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with one of my graphics

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: hm, works ok here i uploaded a new beta ... once this one is installed, successive upgrades (unzipping tmf file) should trigger auto-format generation at a next run ... only tested here Hans Yup, works here too now; thanks! Oh, and it's a

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Thanks Thomas and Lutz. Now that I have figured out how to manually install the third party modules, I can try the simpleslides module. Aditya and Thomas, thanks very much for providing us with these modules. Just for information, I wanted to inform you that some other styles, such as

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, Hi all, Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with the demo.tex from the module archive. (using last beta 2009.03.18 21:58 MKIV , LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031820) Greetings Lutz Yes

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Dawn, it's hard to keep everything in mind with all your moves and changes. well, now is the time to do some clean up did you notice that all table stuff is now under tabl-* ? I did and when I don't where to look grep is my

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Bynum
Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress. Mike On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, David Wooten d...@trichotomic.net wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Michael Bynum wrote: Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress. The links are after the big note

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread luigi scarso
There is also, but is still a work-in-progress http://groups.foundry.supelec.fr/modules/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl

[NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning: \count

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Peter Rolf: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: Am 19.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Peter Rolf: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Yue Wang
{\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet -

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] ... it's explained in the fonts manual and in the new ConTeXt manual. The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: \newcount\OLDpdfcompresslevel \def\disablePDFcompression {\bgroup \OLDpdfcompresslevel\pdfcompresslevel \pdfcompresslevel\zerocount\relax} \def\allowPDFcompression {\pdfcompresslevel\OLDpdfcompresslevel\egroup} Wolfgang there are: \def\nopdfcompression

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet \bi works for math bold italic letters. Symbols need to be

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote: Are fonts like men, or like women ? ;O) fonts are simply complex ... - no real consistency (esp in names) - complicted by the fact that we want (in tex) some coherent system - complicated even more by math - and by incomplete fonts - and ... - and ... to some extend

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet \bi works for math bold italic

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Alan Stone schrieb: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] ... it's explained in the fonts manual and in the new ConTeXt manual. The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan Stone wrote: The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a piece cake. As such, every effort in trying to explain it in a way that's

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: Alan Stone wrote: The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Are fonts like men, or like women ?  ;O) fonts are simply complex ... Ok, they're like women then. Alan - no real consistency (esp in names) - complicted by the fact that we want (in tex) some coherent

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.03.2009 um 16:26 schrieb Alan Stone: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: (there's also Normal, Bold etc that is even more generic in the sense that it can be sans or serif depending of the situation) Read and understand! % Typescript for Arial

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: Alan Stone wrote: The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a

Re: [NTG-context] Step wise presentation.

2009-03-19 Thread Fabrice
Le 09-03-17 à 20:04, Curious Learn a écrit : Currently what is the best solution for presentation with steps in Context that works with the stable version of MKIV. The one that you can get with ./first-setup.sh --context=current If I need to install any addon module for your

Re: [NTG-context] Step wise presentation.

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Fabrice fabrice.alpha at gmail.com writes: You can use the raw steps module. This works very well. You can find some informations here: http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-rsteps Fabrice. Thanks Fabrice. Yes, I was looking at the demo file yesterday once I figured out how to install

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Aditya Mahajan adityam at umich.edu writes: Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress. The links are after the big

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Curious Learn wrote: Aditya Mahajan adityam at umich.edu writes: Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Yanrui Li
2009/3/17 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: The fallback code for \getcheckedparameter in MkII did not work \def\setvalidparameterkeys{\gobbleparameters}

[NTG-context] \plusseven

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans, from syst-ini.tex: \chardef\plusseven = 6 \chardef\pluseight = 6 \chardef\plusnine = 6 Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well,

[NTG-context] Strange interaction between textcolor and backgrounds in mkii

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi Hans, Something has changed recently with the mkii color model, due to which page backgrounds do not change. (I am guessing that this is a grouping issue, but then colors are like a black box to me). Consider the following example \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setupcolors[state=start]