Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers

2008-09-01 Thread Alan Stone
I'm asking questions (1) and (3) since the main manual was written in 2001. Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: (1) The main manual mentions (bottom of pg 78) setting the state is done for the whole header and (bottom of page 79) the keys state

Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers

2008-08-29 Thread Alan Stone
Ok thanks. Next, pg 80 table 4.5, result column state result -- none invisible, no whitespace empty one page invisible, whitespace highone page visible, no whitespace stopinvisible, whitespace What does this

Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers

2008-08-29 Thread Alan Stone
(1) The main manual mentions (bottom of pg 78) setting the state is done for the whole header and (bottom of page 79) the keys state, before and after work on all parts of the pagebody, main text, margins and edges. So there's no way to set the text/margin/edge states separately ? ( I need

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Arthur, I would sooner have you hate me for telling the truth than adore me for telling lies. - Pietro Aretino As for the invitation to the reference project, thanks a lot. I have some work to finish first, then will have some free time to gladly contribute. Wishing you a nice day ( no

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
parameters and information have been filtered out ? That would be most helpful. Thanks on beforehand. Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Alan Stone wrote: Hi, Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example

Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
It has a much better structure indeed. Missing the wiki-only search feature though. Placing the texshow-web and mail archive links in a more relevant section, instead of hidden in the wiki's left column, would be welcome - especially for newbies. Also, when a newbie reads texshow-web (s)he

Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Missing the wiki-only search feature though. OK, you're number two. I'll think about it. Here's why Patrick: a wiki being a source of documentation, that's where I look for next when not finding something in the

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? Perhaps you wanted \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, header=15pt, height=middle,

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
=180pt] \showframe \showsetups \starttext testing \stoptext On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
That said, it is a little confusing that the table from \showsetups doesn't match up ... A little ??? Alan On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. The names

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: CanItBeAnyMoreConfusingText ? From left to right, you have: (left)edge (left)edgedistance (left)margin (left)margindistance width (right)margindistance (right)margin (right)edgedistance (right)edge

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed, you have to see these dimensions outwards (so, margindistance, margin, edgedistance, edge ... these extend into the backspace or cutspace depending on left/right) Ahaa. I'm beginning to understand. Meanwhile found

Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-27 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reference of what ? of all commands. It is better then texshow(-web). Other suggestions? Then commands reference, instead of reference. - live context - Try out ConTeXt online - download - Download the

[NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV fmt: 2008.8.22 int: english/english What has changed with the \reference and/or \goto(box) commands ? I'm getting fatal compile errors related to these while there weren't none previously ( that was under Linux, but shouldn't

Re: [NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Stone
When replacing \goto with \gotobox, everything works fine again. Is \goto depreciated ? Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV fmt: 2008.8.22 int: english/english What has changed

Re: [NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Stone
Give us a example! Sorry Wolfgang, for the moment no time to make a minimal example. Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver

[NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt]

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Peter, I meant the showframe and showsetups displays on the pdf document itself, not the document paper printout. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-24 Thread Alan Stone
dropped down modified Language menu. Best, Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:13:09 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-24 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Idris, In the readme.txt you wrote... 13. A note: In Preferences, always leave the option Remember the last operation directory unchecked. What's the reason for this recommendation ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Idris, (1) FYI, Application Data.zip also contains a 'Program Files' folder which has the same contents as 'Program Files.zip' From readme.txt : (2) 9. Copy the directory Program Files\Notepad++ to Program Files Shouldn't it be copy the *contents* of these (sub)directories to their

Re: [NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
or the setuptex script? Uh ? What are these scripts ? Best, Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Alan, On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:16:26 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Launching texexec --check from the SciTE output window gives sh

Re: [NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
Found it. TeX was not selected in the language menu. ( SciTE doesn't check mark the selected language so I didn't spot it at first ) However now, when compiling I get ... :O) texmfstart texexec --lua mini01.tex TeXExec | processing document 'mini01.tex' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec |

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
Correction... * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? What must be selected for ConTeXt-MK IV ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:29:56 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) FYI, Application Data.zip also contains a 'Program Files' folder which has the same contents as 'Program

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-23 Thread Alan Stone
, no ConTeXt entry. Has this feature changed since Npp 4.2 ? Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:56:03 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two other questions, if I may... (1) The folding feature

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Idris, Thanks a lot. One question though... I installed Npp, downloaded the context support package for Npp and extracted the zip file. What/where are the setup instructions please ? Best, Alan On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Stone
will still be 'Notepad++ why would one choose to not to use the default destination folder, 'Notepad++'. .. and change it to, eg, 'Notepadpp' ? what OS are you using? XP SP3 Home, Ubuntu 8.04 Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone software.list.1es9s

[NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, I've switched from Linux (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition) running from within Windows XP + VirtualBox to a stand-alone Ubuntu installation. Installed - ConTeXt minimals in /opt/context - SciTE through the Synaptic Package Manager, and followed the SciTE in ConTeXt manual instructions : *

Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout question

2008-08-13 Thread Alan Stone
Pages and pages and pages skillfully resumed in a few, targeted and simple lines. Keyword: the system is set up in such a way that... Something to consider for the manual updates ? Thanks a lot Hans, Alan On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote

[NTG-context] \setuplayout question

2008-08-12 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, Some/oftentimes, the more I read the scattered documentation, the more I'm confused... and wasting my valuable time testing and trying to figure out how things work. Here is, for example, why... (1) From \showlayout topspace \topspace top\topheight (2) From ConTeXt

[NTG-context] \setuplist coupling parameter

2008-08-11 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, I screened the available resources (manuals, wiki, texshow) for the purpose and use of the \setuplist command coupling=on/off option without finding an answer. What is it for ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt] the left and right margin remain the same Use \startnarrower[left,right]. Used it, still doesn't work. - when setting

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
correction... Using the brute force tactic I tried setting textwidth which didn't work. It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main manual pg 150 ) ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: textwidth for what and why, you're in the right edge Something undocumented. ;O) It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main manual pg 150 ) ? \define[1]\SectionList {\framed{#1}}

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works. Ahaa! Now it does. I misunderstood. Thanks. What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x0)pt. 'width' is the width of the box

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter because you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers you need a postive value for distance (2). (1) Left aligned

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was the empty line also in your source, if your answer is yes remove it. No, it wasn't in my sauce, correction: source. Although... My source sometimes looks like a messed up sauce. :O) Alan

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \starttext \framed{text} \thinrule \setuplinewidth[small] \framed{text} \thinrule \setuplinewidth[1cm] \framed{text} \thinrule \stoptext I don't see the output difference between \framed{text}

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-06 Thread Alan Stone
The better way is to define you own list alternative. \define[3]\ChapterList {\hbox {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}% \hfil#3}} \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList] I'll try that... #1, #2, #3 being parameters which can

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-05 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks for these finishing touches Wolfgang. I'm troubled by the following though... - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt] the left and right margin remain the same - when setting for example \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em] (

[NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-04 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, (1) \goto(box) (1a) What's the difference between - goto and gotobox ? (1b) With \goto{Table of Contents}[contents] each word separately is interactive, not the whole word. How do you make so ? (3) \setuplist (3a) what is - depth ? - maxwidth ? (3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-04 Thread Alan Stone
(3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt How to set the right margin to xpt ? depends, sometimes setting the width works ok, otherwise wrap the whole in narrower I'm out of inspiration... \setupnarrower[left=.6pt,right=.6pt] \startinteractionmenu[right] % \startnarrower

Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions

2008-08-04 Thread Alan Stone
I'm looking to have in the menu... - chapter title centered - section title left aligned - for long chapter/section titles split over more than 1line, vertical space between these chapter/section lines to be smaller - left and right margin of (x)pt \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setupbodyfont[14.4pt]

Re: [NTG-context] menu question

2008-08-03 Thread Alan Stone
. :O( Thanks anyway. Best, Alan On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, With... \startinteractionmenu[right] \placecontent[..., criterium=chapter (or section), ...] \stopinteractionmenu and chapter/section lists longer than

Re: [NTG-context] menu question

2008-08-03 Thread Alan Stone
That will do it! Thanks for the tip. Best, Alan On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: the best you can do is to either make the fontsize smaller It would decrease the menu readability too much. the area wider (less linebreaks

[NTG-context] menu question

2008-08-02 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, With... \startinteractionmenu[right] \placecontent[..., criterium=chapter (or section), ...] \stopinteractionmenu and chapter/section lists longer than the text area height, how do you prevent the menu items from extending beyond the bottom of the text area (and page) and have the menu

Re: [NTG-context] system modes

2008-08-01 Thread Alan Stone
Unless I'm mistaken, the non-documented *headertext isn't operational any more. Has it been replaced with something else ? If not, I'm misunderstanding its meaning. Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, There are *some* system

Re: [NTG-context] system modes

2008-08-01 Thread Alan Stone
Never mind, the main sections system modes do the trick. Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, the non-documented *headertext isn't operational any more. Has it been replaced with something else ? If not, I'm misunderstanding its

[NTG-context] system modes

2008-07-31 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, There are *some* system modes listed in the modes manual and main manual. Are *all* system modes listed somewhere ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands

2008-07-30 Thread Alan Stone
you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given at the bottom of that file I guess you mean s-pre-05.tex Hans. Best, Alan On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example

Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands

2008-07-30 Thread Alan Stone
After modifying the s-pre-05.tex example and replacing \setupinteractionmenu[right] with \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right] the menu doesn't show up anymmore in the pdf. What's missing ? Thanks, Alan %\usemodule[pre-general] \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setupbodyfont[14.4pt] \setuplayout

[NTG-context] \*interaction* commands

2008-07-29 Thread Alan Stone
HI, Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all \*interaction* commands and their options ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands

2008-07-29 Thread Alan Stone
it is and what it means. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Alan Stone wrote: HI, Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all \*interaction* commands and their options ? AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow

Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Stone
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:56:53 +0200 From: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl re: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/ I've downloaded all files from the above directory to a separate folder on my PC and am trying to compile the

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Stone
Instead of looking to insert exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset, is it possible to generate, in one compile job, the document's preview version (*) with its full version (non-interactive) table of contents (TOC), index, list of figures, ... instead ? (*)

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Stone
How come this doesn't work ? \defineblock[prev] \defineblock[full] \hideblocks[full] %\hideblocks[prev] \def\previewMsg{This part is hidden} \def\showPreviewMsg{\beginprev \hairline \previewMsg \hairline \endprev} \starttext \input tufte \showPreviewMsg % it doesn't show %\beginprev %

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
Simple and effective. Thanks. Alan P.S. It's (again) in the manual. o: grin :o ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

[NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
Re: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html Mojca asked... Is there a way to somehow \starthidden ... \stophidden, which would leave exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset? What's the current status on this issue ? Alan

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
there will be figures/pics too. do you need a solution that will work also over page breaks. Yes, to make a preview version of a book. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html Mojca

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
And you want to hide part of the content for ... Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing excerpts) before acquiring the full version. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
, 2008-07-24 at 15:21 +0200, Alan Stone wrote: And you want to hide part of the content for ... Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing excerpts) before acquiring the full version. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [NTG-context] hiding content

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Stone
Eureka! I understand what you mean. :O) Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by do a run of the completed matter to see what the pagination would be ? Alan

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-23 Thread Alan Stone
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes] \setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes] or for the backpart \setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}] Thanks Wolfgang. I've been playing with different bodypart and backpart setupsectionblock settings: number=yes/no,

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-23 Thread Alan Stone
But only in MkII, if you have a problem with this in MkIV make a example. \setuppapersize [A4][A4] %\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \definepagebreak[myChapterPageBreak][yes,header,footer,right]

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-23 Thread Alan Stone
Correction ( disregard the previous example)... \setuppapersize [A4][A4] %\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \definepagebreak[myChapterPageBreak][yes,header,footer,right] \setuphead[chapter][page=myChapterPageBreak]

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-23 Thread Alan Stone
You need \setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes] \setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}] I tried that Wolfgang. However I'd like the pages setup like in my last example with, in a double sided document, the back page on the [(next even page) + 2]. So, refering to the

Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-23 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need \setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes] \setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}] I tried that Wolfgang. However I'd like the pages setup like in my last example with, in a double sided

[NTG-context] startbodymatter question

2008-07-22 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, How do you get rid of the doublesided document's page number on the blank page inserted after the last chapter ? Alan ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex --- start of code --- \setuppapersize [A4][A4]

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-21 Thread Alan Stone
You're playing games with me, do you? Nope. I'm playing with ctx/ltx, testing by trial and error what's possible. You need the same name for both typefaces. Hmmm... I was definitely interpreting this too literally then. Thanks for your support enabling me to better understand ctx/ltx

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-20 Thread Alan Stone
\starttypescript[myFonts] \definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default] \definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[myFonts] \definetypeface [myFonts] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default] \definetypeface

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Charles P. Schaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. Which begets the question... Regarding font installation, detection and other (non font related) issues which occur recurrently when working with (Con)TeX(t),

Re: [NTG-context] \startfrontmatter Co.

2008-07-19 Thread Alan Stone
itself (search for bodyfontenvironment in the mail archive). The most, though still scarce information is available at http://texshow.contextgarden.net -- Alan ~ If you're tired of the crap and nonsense served daily on TV (some call it the idiot box), in the

[NTG-context] \startfrontmatter Co.

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Stone
On page 17, the ConTeXt manual mentions the commands \startfrontmatter - \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter - \stopbodymatter \startbackmatter - \stopbackmatter What's the precise use and benefit of these commands, other a cleaner project structure ? Alan

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments Wolfgang. I will add to my todo list Write a few lines about font installation for XeTeX and LuaTeX and how to use them in style keys. With the bits and pieces of information ( current and outdated ) about these matters presently being scattered all over

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-17 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Wolfgang. calm down. Done. I've let some steam off earlier on.OoOo:O) \setuphead[chapter][style=\ myHeadingsFont\myChapterFont] You have to load 'myHeadingsfont' typescript before you can use them because they are not available on outer level, only fonts used as bodyfont can

Re: [NTG-context] Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O)

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Stone
(resend: didn't get through yesterday) Thanks a lot Wolfgang. There's still something I don't understand... Why does this not compile then: see the (new) attachements ? Alan test.tex Description: Binary data test.log Description: Binary data

Re: [NTG-context] Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O)

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Stone
( 2nd and last attempt: message didn't get through ) Thanks a lot Wolfgang. There's still something I don't understand though... Why does this not compile then ? \setuppapersize [A4][A4] \starttypescript [serif] [myBodyFont] \definefontsynonym [myBodyFontRegular] [name:Times New

[NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Stone
(1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728] You could either use a real font name like 'Arial' or a symbolic name defined with \definefontsynonym like 'Serif', 'SerifBold', 'Sans', 'Dummy-Regular' etc. in the second argument of \definefont but not the name for a font collection

[NTG-context] showbody* commands for non-bodyfonts ?

2008-07-14 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, When using more than one font in a document, what is the corresponding \showbodyfont command for the non-bodyfont(s) ? I tried \showbodyfont[bodyfont](1) \showbodyfont[non-bodyfont] (2) and only (1) gets processed and displayed. Same question for \showbodyfontenvironment. Alan

[NTG-context] Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O)

2008-07-14 Thread Alan Stone
ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english See test.tex in attachement. The following combinations give the following results after compiling with texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex ---

Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?

2008-07-13 Thread Alan Stone
Simple solutions from generous posters. Thanks all. I was too focussed on the switchtobodyfont command. Have a great weekend, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the

Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?

2008-07-13 Thread Alan Stone
(1) \setupbodyfont[somebodyfont,12pt] \definefont[chapterfont][somefont sa 1.728] \setuphead[chapter][style=chapterfont] gives a compile error at \chapter{chapter title} : ! Font \**chapterfont**:=somefont at 20.736pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad However

[NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?

2008-07-12 Thread Alan Stone
style={\switchtobodyfont[somefont,somefontsize]} digests font sizes expressed in pt. What's the command to convert font sizes ( for example \tfc ) to their corresponding pt number ? Alan ___ If your question is of

Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?

2008-07-12 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks for your quick response Aditya. I've read that too and unfortunately don't find anything on that page that answers my question. Hmmm... Either the question was not clear enough or I've been smoking the carpet... :O) Let's try to formulate it otherwise... With somefont defined through

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
saw that too... don't understand how that's possible because there are already files in that folder. Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: LuaTools | unable to save files in /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
cleaned up ... i'll upload a beta Thanks a lot Hans. Where from will the beta be uploadable ? Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Stone wrote: are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
Isn't downloading enough for you ;-) Apparently not. Guess I have a preference for up. ctxtools --updatecontext Passing on that one. Thanks anyway. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well,

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
/64fe47ca42a06b0d6010805018b4cbbc.lua (access error) LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.110 seconds MtxRun | running command: luatools --generate MtxRun | total runtime: 0.178 Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Alan Stone wrote: cleaned up

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
In a flash of extraordinary inspiration, ran the command in a terminal window from root - instead of from scite and now it seems to have worked... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context# context --generate MtxRun | running command: luatools --generate LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOLOC set to

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
Wow, now I can mindread too... What's with sudo ... Received your message just after doing that. Thanks. SpookyTeX! Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mojca

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
Though that's strange... fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix otf fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.001 seconds fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix ttf fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
Despite all the above, when compiling with texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex with test.tex containing \usetypescript[verdana] \setupbodyfont[verdana,12pt] or \definetypeface[Times][rm][Xserif][Times New Roman] \setupbodyfont[Times,12pt] the generated pdfs embed LMRoman font instead, while

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Mojca. you need to define all the fonts manually in LuaTeX (dummy job; should be simplified one day). Would be most welcome indeed. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Stone
are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Stone
that's weird, i'm stymied How about a name change... WeirdoTeX seems rather appropriate? ;O) All jokes aside... What's the solution ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Stone
to that one previously. Don't know whether that's the cause of the problem. Nevertheless, any idea how to set this straight ? Alan On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's weird, i'm stymied How about a name change... WeirdoTeX seems rather appropriate? ;O

Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Stone
regenerated the cache Excuse me my ignorance... what do you mean by that Arthur ? Alan On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans. that's weird, i'm stymied I saw that once, too, but

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