Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-13 Thread Meigen, Thomas
Hi, once again, thank you very much for your help. @Hans Most of those presentation styles were used at tex user group meetings and in those cases I often use new (or experimental) functionality, i.e. hooking in extentions and such; in the transition from mkii to mkiv some of the hacks

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/13/2013 11:03 PM, Meigen, Thomas wrote: Sorry, I forget to mention. Scrivener is a very nice editor which mainly supports looks like it uses some kind of xml to store the data so you can directly process that with context if needed Hans

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Meigen, Thomas
Thank you very much for your clarifications! To summarize... 1. The use of additional modules may be nice (as Sietse proposed the complex-slides module), but ConTeXt can achieve very flexible solutions even without these modules. 2. Although the production of slides was not the main issue of my

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Meigen, Thomas
Hi Keith, thank you for your open comments. You exactly understood the questions that I am asking right now. Would it be a good idea to switch to ConTeXt? Yes, I do not have (and I do not want to have) a deeper understanding of proper TeX. Well, I have Knuth's TeXbook in my shelf, but it is

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Khaled Hosny
You can ignore everything Keith said and you will be just fine. Regards, Khaled On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:32:39AM +, Meigen, Thomas wrote: Hi Keith, thank you for your open comments. You exactly understood the questions that I am asking right now. Would it be a good idea to switch to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/11/2013 11:58 AM, Meigen, Thomas wrote: 1 \usemodule[s-pre-05] crashed for s-pre-05 and most of the other s-pre-XX modules indicates that such crashes have nothing to do with the decision to load modules from other users. The s-pre-XX modules are part of the standalone ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/11/2013 12:32 PM, Meigen, Thomas wrote: But... do I really have to have a knowledge of proper TeX and Lua before I can use ConTeXt? For me, the charme of ConTeXt had always been that those nice documents had been prepared with rather smart code. I dont want to write my own modules (in

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-11 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Hi Thomas, You wrote, a good number of e-mails ago: But would it be possible to use ConTeXt without having to care about bugs in updated code or broken links between different modules...? Thought I'd add a brief note to the conversation about updates and stability. ConTeXt Mark II (can use

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Meigen, Thomas
Hello Sietse, thank you for your proposal. I guess that there is not a lack of options here. However, my problem may be simpler than I had described in the first place. I am not so much concerned with using a specific slide layout (be it s-pre-05 or some fancy simple- or complexslide layout),

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/10/2013 9:13 AM, Meigen, Thomas wrote: and as life is already complicated enough ;-), my decision has more to do with usability and reliability than with the number of options. I am a software developer for more than 20 years now, so I know very well how easy it is to implement some

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi Thomas, In your original post you stated that stated that you have be using LaTeX for your work. That would suggest to me that you are not proficient with TeX proper. ConTeXt runs, in my opinion, along the lines of TeX proper. That is you need intimate knowledge of TeX. Furthermore, you

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi Hans, I am kind of confused about the relationship between luatex and ConTeXt. The way I read the wikis and web sites luatex and ConTeXt are basically two different animals. They have a common core, but two different code bases, where the ConTeXt group doing most the work advancing the Lua

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/1/10 Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de: I am kind of confused about the relationship between luatex and ConTeXt. http://www.tug.org/levels.html ConTeXt MkIV needs LuaTeX. Best Martin ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013, Hans Hagen wrote: you only need modules for special kind of functionality or rendering (like presentations) although one can make presentations without extra modules (just set the papersize to S6 or so) I created an example to show how to create basic slides from

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/10/2013 12:19 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: 2013/1/10 Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de: I am kind of confused about the relationship between luatex and ConTeXt. http://www.tug.org/levels.html ConTeXt MkIV needs LuaTeX. That's a somewhat confusing description. (1) Context is just a

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/10/2013 11:47 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: I am kind of confused about the relationship between luatex and ConTeXt. The way I read the wikis and web sites luatex and ConTeXt are basically two different animals. They have a common core, but two different code bases, where the ConTeXt group

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013, Hans Hagen wrote: you only need modules for special kind of functionality or rendering (like presentations) although one can make presentations without extra modules (just set the papersize to S6 or so) I created an example to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Pavneet Arora
Thanks Aditya! This is tremendously helpful for all of us who use ConTeXt to do our slides. Regards. -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:22:47 -0500 (EST) From: Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject:

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-10 Thread Pavneet Arora
Hans, This is a most lucid explanation. I have been waiting for this myself. To quote the great American philosopher, Corporal Radar O'Reilly, from the television show of the 1970s, M*A*S*H: Ah, Bark! [He was instructed to say Ah, Baaah! by Hawkeye Pierce] I apologise in advance for

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/7/2013 4:07 PM, Meigen, Thomas wrote: 1 \usemodule[s-pre-05] 2 \starttext 3 \TitlePage{A simple presentation} 4 \Topics{Today's talk} 5 \Topic{First item} 6 \Topic{Second item} 7 \stoptext argument ... internal(\currentlistentryinternal look like a bug in

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-09 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Hello Thomas, Just to widen your options a bit: I have greatly enjoyed using the \complexslides module by Aditya (and co?). I've attached an example document, which shows inter alia how easy it is to override a design component. (The fontscheme, in this case.) Cheers, Sietse

[NTG-context] ConTeXt on the Mac (TexShop). Problem of a newbie

2013-01-08 Thread Meigen, Thomas
Hi, after using LaTeX for article writing, presentations (beamer) and posters for about 15 years I wanted to try ConTeXt last week. I am not sure whether I installed all components correctly, so I tried to compile different simple test files. As I don't understand the error messages, I would