Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 21:03, Alan Bowen wrote: I have run the ./first-setup.sh without the switch --context=beta and I still get what I had before ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKII  fmt: 2009.2.23  int: english/english a beta version (I gather) which in any case does not work. If you

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-25 Thread Alan Bowen
Many thanks for this explanation of what works now, Mocja. I am going to move my luatex problem (which you mention below) back to its original thread. (If only because it is really nice to tie off the LM problem and call it solved.). Alan On Feb 25, 2009, at 08;23,43 , Mojca Miklavec

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
The minimals (both the stable and the beta versions) in contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/$platform/bin seem to be frozen at 2009.01.18 14;39. I vaguely recall that there was going to be a mismatch between the minimals on the Garden and the minimals at Pragma, but thought that had been

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: The minimals (both the stable and the beta versions) in contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/$platform/bin seem to be frozen at 2009.01.18 14;39. I vaguely recall that there was going to be a mismatch between the minimals on the Garden and the

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: The minimals (both the stable and the beta versions) in contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/$platform/bin seem to be frozen at 2009.01.18 14;39. for me minimals-beta/tex# context --version MtxRun | main context file:

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thomas, Luigi— Thanks for tips: they are much appreciated. As it turns out, I had already reinstalled ConTeXt 2008.11.10 21:40 using TimeMachine. What is distressing is that the problem remains. I can either set an article with LM and Greek without proper scaling for the Greek or set

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Corrected version! Thomas, Luigi— Thanks for tips: they are much appreciated. As it turns out, I had already reinstalled ConTeXt 2008.11.10 21:40 using TimeMachine. What is distressing is that the problem remains. I can either set an article with LM and Greek without proper

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: Thomas, Luigi— Thanks for tips: they are much appreciated. As it turns out, I had already reinstalled ConTeXt 2008.11.10 21:40 using TimeMachine. What is distressing is that the problem remains. I can either set an article with LM and Greek without proper scaling for the

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
When I add this at the beginning of the file: \definebodyfontenvironment[10.5pt] \starttypescript [serif] [default] [size] \definebodyfont [10.5pt] [rm] [default] \stoptypescript \definebodyfontenvironment[9.5pt] \starttypescript [serif] [default] [size] \definebodyfont

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Thomas! Its does indeed compile. But the font size for the Greek is still wrong. Alan On Feb 24, 2009, at 09;05,40 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: When I add this at the beginning of the file: \definebodyfontenvironment[10.5pt] \starttypescript [serif] [default] [size]

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, Thomas! Its does indeed compile. But the font size for the Greek is still wrong. Alan With your test file, I get properly scaled Greek output both in text and footnotes. So what is wrong with your output? Thomas

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
The Greek is not scaled at 2.15 See the attachment. Alan LMGreekTest.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document On Feb 24, 2009, at 10;01,44 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, Thomas! Its does indeed compile. But the font size for the Greek is

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: The Greek is not scaled at 2.15 See the attachment. Alan Here's my output: test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Well, that is what it should be. So the problem is definitely on my box. But where? I have no idea right now about how to test this further. Alan On Feb 24, 2009, at 10;22,01 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: The Greek is not scaled at 2.15 See

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thomas— Did you test this on a Mac? Alan On Feb 24, 2009, at 10;22,01 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: The Greek is not scaled at 2.15 See the attachment. Alan Here's my output: test.pdf

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Well, that is what it should be. So the problem is definitely on my box. But where? I have no idea right now about how to test this further. Alan I'm aware we have made you install lots of versions, in vain. Nevertheless, I would suggest

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Thomas— Did you test this on a Mac? Alan Yes: sw_vers ProductName:Mac OS X ProductVersion: 10.5.6 BuildVersion: 9G55 ctxtools --contextversion CtxTools | context version: 2009.02.17 18:50 (/Users/tas/context/tex/

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thomas— Before I turn to your other messages (which I will follow up on, since I prefer very much to be current). \usemodule[oldgreek] [font=GreekDioxipe,scale=2.15,altfont=GreekCanonica,altscale=0.9] instead of \usemodule[ancientgreek]... gives the desired output. Alan On Feb 24,

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thomas— I updated my original ConTeXtMinimals with --context=alpha (ConTeXt ver: 2009.02.24 16:36 MKII) and tried the test file. By the way, I got the same errors as before when the install script came to luatex, so I guess that is still broken. Anyway, no joy: the Greek is still the

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Thomas— I updated my original ConTeXtMinimals with --context=alpha (ConTeXt ver: 2009.02.24 16:36 MKII) and tried the test file. By the way, I got the same errors as before when the install script came to luatex, so I guess that is still

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Thomas, it now works as it should! Repairing the way I had installed LM was the solution. I am not sure how you got the desired output using my original test file, but never mind. It now works, the journal can proceed, and I am very grateful for your guidance in sorting this out.

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: Thanks, Thomas, it now works as it should! Repairing the way I had installed LM was the solution. I am not sure how you got the desired output using my original test file, but never mind. It now works, the journal can

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at least) to install/define fonts after setting up margin kerning and hanging punctuation---which means that Latin Modern has be re-installed/re- defined if margin kerning etc are to take effect. Is this still right?

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at least)  to install/define fonts after setting up margin kerning and hanging punctuation---which means that Latin Modern has be re-installed/re-defined if

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Not every font, Luigi. Just Latin Modern because ConTeXt comes with it installed already. I am assuming, of course, that it is still true that margin kerning etc. must de set up before a font is installed for it to affect that font. Alan On Feb 24, 2009, at 13;59,12 , luigi scarso

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, luigi scarso wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at least)  to install/define fonts after setting up margin kerning and hanging punctuation---which means that Latin

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
That is what he means, Aditya! *–) Many thanks. A. On Feb 24, 2009, at 14;57,06 , Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, luigi scarso wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at least) to install/define fonts after setting up margin kerning and hanging punctuation---which means that Latin Modern has be re-installed/re-defined if margin kerning etc are to take effect. Is this still

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
So, does MKIV do away with this requirement, Hans? Alan On Feb 24, 2009, at 15;21,02 , Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Luigi--- I did this because I thought it was necessary (in MKII at least) to install/define fonts after setting up margin kerning and hanging punctuation---which

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: That is what he means, Aditya! *–) Many thanks. A. ah ok. this one \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono][hanging][pure] \setupalign[hanging] \usetypescript[modern-base][texnansi] % a simplified latin-modern typescript

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: So, does MKIV do away with this requirement, Hans? yes - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread Alan Bowen
Luigi— I do not know if what you suggest will work with Thomas’ Greek module. What I have now (thanks to Thomas) in my environment file is: \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal] \setupalign[hz,hanging] \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}] \startfonthandling[greekpure]

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-24 Thread luigi scarso
good . On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: Luigi— I do not know if what you suggest will work with Thomas’ Greek module. What I have now (thanks to Thomas) in my environment file is: \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
This is a problem with math support in a particular beta version a few weeks ago. It has been fixed in the meantime; the latest beta works normally, but in order to install it, you will have to either wait for Taco to make a new snapshot of luatex available at supelec.fr or compile luatex

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Thomas. This is a great help. But one question before I do this: if I remove the --context=beta switch will running first-setup.sh install the last stable minimal version? Alan On Feb 23, 2009, at 12;40,14 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: This is a problem with math support in a

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread luigi scarso
But one question before I do this: if I remove the --context=beta switch will running first-setup.sh install the last stable minimal version? yes, (it's written near the end of first-setup.sh) -- luigi ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Luigi. A. On Feb 23, 2009, at 13;26,48 , luigi scarso wrote: But one question before I do this: if I remove the --context=beta switch will running first-setup.sh install the last stable minimal version? yes, (it's written near the end of first-setup.sh) -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Bowen
I have run the ./first-setup.sh without the switch --context=beta and I still get what I had before ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKII fmt: 2009.2.23 int: english/ english a beta version (I gather) which in any case does not work. Apparently there is no easy way to go back. So what about

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: I have run the ./first-setup.sh without the switch --context=beta and I still get what I had before ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKII fmt: 2009.2.23 int: english/english a beta version (I gather) which in any case

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, luigi scarso wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Alan Bowen acbo...@princeton.edu wrote: I have run the ./first-setup.sh without the switch --context=beta and I still get what I had before ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKII fmt: 2009.2.23 int: english/english a beta

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Alan Bowen
Aditya and Luigi—many thanks. I will reinstall the minimals just as soon as ./first-setup.sh can get to a stable version. Your advice about texmf-project seems good to me. I now have two shells (one for stable ConTeXt and one for betas) as well. Cheers, Alan On Feb 23, 2009, at 15;24,20

Re: [NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Alan Bowen wrote: Aditya and Luigi—many thanks. I will reinstall the minimals just as soon as ./first-setup.sh can get to a stable version. In first-setup.sh, remove --context=beta from the last line.

[NTG-context] LM typsescript problem

2009-02-22 Thread Alan Bowen
I am currently faced with an unacceptable choice (ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKII). My environment file has: \enableregime[mac] \mainlanguage[en] % use \fr, \de, e.g., for local changes Margin Kerning and Font Expansion \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]