Re: [NTG-context] { in input file names

2004-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen Outside
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
Hi.
Another one of my sort of weird questions.  I have a file with { in it's
 

weird indeed, are you searching for the limits of tex/context/your-os?
file name and context doesn't seem to enjoy it much:
 

i only enjoy names that match [a-z0-9\-]
% mkdir {test}
% cd {test}
% mkdir output
% touch a.tex  ed a.tex
0
0a
\starttext
Hello
\stoptext
.
wq
27
% texexec --runpath=output a.tex
 

You can put this somewhere (cont-loc.tex or so) since i'm not that sure 
if it does not interfere, so i (and others) need to test this for a long 
time

% supp-fil
\bgroup % todo: _ cleanup
\catcode`\/=\@@active
\catcode`\:=\@@active
\catcode`\~=\@@active
\gdef\sanitizefilename#1\to#2%
 {\bgroup
  \edef/{\string/}%
  \edef:{\string:}%
  \edef~{\string~}%
  \expanded{\xdef\noexpand\sanitizedfilename{#1}}%
  \egroup
  \let#2\sanitizedfilename%
  \convertcommand\sanitizedfilename\to#2}
\egroup
% core-job
\def\usepath[#1]%
 {\def\docommando##1%
{\doifelse{##1}\v!reset
   {\let\allinputpaths\empty}
   {\sanitizefilename#1\to\ascii
%\convertcommand\ascii\to\ascii
\addtocommalist\ascii\allinputpaths}}%
  \processcommalist[#1]\docommando}
\def\usesubpath[#1]% new, see webschrift for usage
 {\ifx\allinputpaths\empty
\sanitizefilename#1\to\allinputpaths
  \else
\def\docommando##1%
  {\def\dodocommando1%
 {\sanitizefilename1\to\ascii
  \addtocommalist{##1/\ascii}\allinputpaths}%
   \processcommalist[#1]\dodocommando}%
\processcommacommand[\allinputpaths]\docommando
  \fi}

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Question ConTeXt

2004-06-22 Thread jimarin
Thanks !

:)

jose

 Am 21.06.2004 um 16:04 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 [forwarded to the context list]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I understand that using
 \language[es] (or \mainlanguage[es])
 would select correct hyphenation patterns for Spanish. Is this
 correct?

 Yes.

 and then...
 can I enter text with proper Spanish accents in it, like in...

 No.
 Input encoding has nothing to do with hyphenation patterns.
 In ConTeXt the input encoding is called regime:
 \enableregime[il1] % iso latin 1, try utf8 if your editor does support
 it


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Installation problem

2004-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
  TeX run : 1
warning: Could not open char translation file `cp8bit.tcx'.
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
kpathsea: Running mktexfmt cont-en.efmt
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
\write18 enabled.
%-line parsing enabled.
(/opt/texlive/8/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
**
! End of file on the terminal... why?
running `pdfetex -ini   -jobname=cont-en -progname=context *cont-en.ini' ...
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2) (INITEX)
\write18 enabled.
%-line parsing enabled.
(/opt/texlive/8/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
entering extended mode
(/opt/context/2004.6.21/texmf/tex/context/config/cont-en.ini{/opt/local/texmf/p
dftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
...
cp8bit is not found in the first line, but ok in the 7th. 

Do you have an idea what is going on?
 

maybe some interference with cont-en.ini; does
 texexec --make --alone
work ok?
it should not bark on the cp8bit (btw the latest version should use natural.tcx which is in the context distribution, cp8bit is flawed and not really 8 bit [straight in-out mapping is needed for instance for 
runtime xslt processign and such]; next year we can use -8bit 

(this whole 8 bit mess-up has been hauting me for years -)  

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[NTG-context] typo in recent version

2004-06-22 Thread dr. Hans van der Meer
I found a typo in the recent version (16-06-2004) of ConTeXt.
In file type-buy.tex in line 143 one finds:
\definefontsynonym f[LucidaSans-DemiItalic] ...
The f before the [ is a spurious character and should be removed.
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Re: [NTG-context] typo in recent version

2004-06-22 Thread Hans Hagen
dr. Hans van der Meer wrote:
I found a typo in the recent version (16-06-2004) of ConTeXt.
In file type-buy.tex in line 143 one finds:
\definefontsynonym f[LucidaSans-DemiItalic] ...
The f before the [ is a spurious character and should be removed.
it's even worse, since there are some out-of-typescript lines; i found out a few 
days ago so the latest version should be ok; i can send you the type-buy file if needed
Thanks 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] Re: Installation problem

2004-06-22 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Hans and Matt,


here is my solution:

in texexec.ini change

set  TeXFormatFlag  to  

into:

set  TeXFormatFlag  to  

(empty)


and run texexec like:

texexec --tex=pdfetex file.tex


this is because texexec checks 

if ( $TeXFormatFlag eq  ) {
if ($TeXProgram =~ /(etex|pdfetex)/) {
$TeXFormatFlag = -efmt= ; # =2004 -fmt=
} elsif ($TeXProgram =~ /(eomega)/) {
$TeXFormatFlag = -eoft= ; # =2004 obsolete
} elsif ($TeXProgram =~ /(aleph)/) {
$TeXFormatFlag = -fmt= ;
} else {
$TeXFormatFlag = -fmt= ;
}
}


and $TeXProgram is not set to $TeXExecutable (why the two different vars?)


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[NTG-context] Re: { in input file names

2004-06-22 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* Hans Hagen Outside [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jun 22, 2004 10:40]:
 Another one of my sort of weird questions.  I have a file with { in
 weird indeed, are you searching for the limits of tex/context/your-os?

Nah, I'm just getting used to Tom Lord's naming scheme
http://wiki.gnuarch.org/moin.cgi/FunkyFileNames
since I use GNU Arch for revision control.

I have my project files in ~/src/{projects}/

 file name and context doesn't seem to enjoy it much:
 i only enjoy names that match [a-z0-9\-]

[a-z0-9{=,+-] on my side

 You can put this somewhere (cont-loc.tex or so) since i'm not that
 sure if it does not interfere, so i (and others) need to test this for
 a long time
[cut]

OK, that worked fine for me.  I'll report any problems.
nikolai

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[NTG-context] when trying to setup Arial fonts...

2004-06-22 Thread jimarin
Hi all,

I am trying to setup Arial fonts...I am quite a newbie to this ConTeXt
thing...

Once Willi told me to use:

Hi Jose

use

\usetypescript[helvetica][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt]

Success!

Willi

I have just done \setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt] cause

\usetypescript apparently is not recognised in my ConTeXt (previous
version to the latest update of these days)

what is the use of this \usetypescript thing?

is Arial just a nickname for Helvetica sans-serif?

cheers !

Jose Ignacio
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[NTG-context] Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

2004-06-22 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Jose,


 I am trying to setup Arial fonts...I am quite a newbie to this ConTeXt
 thing...


 I have just done \setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt] cause

 \usetypescript apparently is not recognised in my ConTeXt (previous
 version to the latest update of these days)

\usetypescript is an old command. Your ConTeXt surely knows about
this command.

 what is the use of this \usetypescript thing?

Well, typescripts are complicated. See Bill' page at
http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html

using Helvetica works for me:
--
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding] 
\usetypescript [postscript][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
  
\starttext
foo
\stoptext
--


 is Arial just a nickname for Helvetica sans-serif?

Well, yes and no.

There is no such thing as Helvetica sans-serif, because Helvetica
*is* without serifs. And Arial and Helvetica are two different fonts,
though similar looking and same metrics. But, depending on your
setup, asking for Helvetica can result in using Arial in Acrobat
Reader.

Patrick
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[NTG-context] Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

2004-06-22 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello,

 thanks for your reply...

 hmmm, I tried your code but I get a funny message.

 The thing is that I suspect I am lacking some files...

Try 

\usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
\usetypescript [postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]

\starttext
foo
\stoptext

How old is your ConTeXt? What TeX system do you have?

Make sure that ther is a line in your logfile like:

fonts  : [adobekb] [ec] []

If this does not appear, post your complete logfile.

Patrick
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[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt-Wiki

2004-06-22 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Holger,

  [starting ConTeXt wiki at] http://members.ping.de:8062/

 What kind of example documents do you think of? I guess that you know
 that the magazines on the main ConTeXt site have their source code
 included?

 I was thinking of all kinds of day-to-day documents, like the letter
 template I mentioned. I could not find one according to DIN-standards, so I
 did some trial-and-error experiments and created my own. 

What were the difficulties you ran into?


 Arguments for a collection could be:

 1) Perhaps a comprehensive and classified collection of sample documents
could spare others such time consuming trials.

a) it is impossible to have a comprehensive collection of documents.
There are too many faces ConTeXt has.

b) It is hard to classify the documents. Two possibilities:

  1)   layout trickery
   macro hacking
   itemize weirdness
   crazy table fun

or

  2)   letters
   articles
   poems
   magazines/newspaper

Any other? Which one makes sense?

 2) On the other hand, my template could for sure be further improved (beyond
the level, I am capable of), so by putting it on a WIKI, I may get hints
and feedback by others.

Yes, that would be a great thing. This is actually the reason why I
started this wiki (and texshow-web).

 What was your motivation for mentioning such a collection on the WIKI?

Every 4 months this question arises on this mailinglist. (Not really
true).


 Another advantage of the WIKI would be the following: I am often lost, when 
 I try to remember, where I found a certain hint/trick/technique I am 
 remembering. If there is a place where everyone can edit pages and include 
 hints or links to information, then there would be no need to create more 
 and more separate web sites about ConTeXt, because the content could be 
 placed in the WIKI, or it could at least be linked from there.

And (the best part!) there is a search field in the wiki. So if you
have important information there, get it in a few seconds.

But it is up to every user to add things to the wiki.

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt-Wiki

2004-06-22 Thread Matt Gushee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 05:55:24PM +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

  Arguments for a collection could be:
 
  1) Perhaps a comprehensive and classified collection of sample documents
 could spare others such time consuming trials.
 
 a) it is impossible to have a comprehensive collection of documents.
 There are too many faces ConTeXt has.
 
 b) It is hard to classify the documents. Two possibilities:

Yes, it is hard to classify them (and many other things) if you insist
on forcing them into a single, canonical hierarchy. But what if you
classified documents on the basis of keywords, or key phrases? Then
visitors could either search based on those phrases or browse a keyword
index.

Of course, that assumes your Wiki software has some means of managing
metadata.

And you could just make some arbitrary decisions about what materials 
should be included and how to classify them. Even a very imperfect
collection would be more helpful than none. And if people don't like
your collection, tell them to start their own. Isn't that what the Web
is all about?

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[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt-Wiki

2004-06-22 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Matt,

 b) It is hard to classify the documents. Two possibilities:

 Yes, it is hard to classify them (and many other things) if you insist
 on forcing them into a single, canonical hierarchy. 

Oh, I don't insist on anything; I just don't have clue how to start...

 But what if you classified documents on the basis of keywords, or
 key phrases? Then visitors could either search based on those
 phrases or browse a keyword index.

 Of course, that assumes your Wiki software has some means of managing
 metadata.

As far as I can see, it doesn't. But putting keywords on the pages
could help.

 And you could just make some arbitrary decisions about what materials 
 should be included and how to classify them. Even a very imperfect
 collection would be more helpful than none. 

Probably true.

 And if people don't like your collection, tell them to start their
 own. Isn't that what the Web is all about?

Right. Easy to change everything. 


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt-Wiki

2004-06-22 Thread jimarin
Hi all,

the idea of the keywords is very nice...

in

http://wiki.tcl.tk

you can search for a specific page using the url

like in

http://wiki.tcl.tk/file

even more, you can search all pages containing a word like in:

http://wiki.tcl.tk/menu*

perhaps it could be copied for ConTeXt wiki...don´t know how tclers do
theirs, but I guess they use tcl and they more or less can give some
advice.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers,

Jose Ignacio

 Hi Matt,

 b) It is hard to classify the documents. Two possibilities:

 Yes, it is hard to classify them (and many other things) if you insist
 on forcing them into a single, canonical hierarchy.

 Oh, I don't insist on anything; I just don't have clue how to start...

 But what if you classified documents on the basis of keywords, or
 key phrases? Then visitors could either search based on those
 phrases or browse a keyword index.

 Of course, that assumes your Wiki software has some means of managing
 metadata.

 As far as I can see, it doesn't. But putting keywords on the pages
 could help.

 And you could just make some arbitrary decisions about what materials
 should be included and how to classify them. Even a very imperfect
 collection would be more helpful than none.

 Probably true.

 And if people don't like your collection, tell them to start their
 own. Isn't that what the Web is all about?

 Right. Easy to change everything.


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Re: [NTG-context] reference problem

2004-06-22 Thread dr. Hans van der Meer
On 20-jun-04, at 21:45, Hans Hagen Outside wrote:
dr. Hans van der Meer wrote:
In the ConTeXt manual (cont-eni.pdf) it says in the chapter on 
references by way of example:
can you try the version i uploaded yesterday?
(i introduced a feature and therefore bug but don't know yet why it 
fails on those cases)

I tried and now it works.
By the way, I found the typo in type-buy.tex (I just reported) has been 
corrected also. thanks.

Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] typo in recent version

2004-06-22 Thread dr. Hans van der Meer
On 22-jun-04, at 11:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
dr. Hans van der Meer wrote:
I found a typo in the recent version (16-06-2004) of ConTeXt.
In file type-buy.tex in line 143 one finds:
\definefontsynonym f[LucidaSans-DemiItalic] ...
The f before the [ is a spurious character and should be removed.
it's even worse, since there are some out-of-typescript lines; i found 
out a few days ago so the latest version should be ok; i can send you 
the type-buy file if needed

Thanks for the prompt reply. In the mean time I got the version dated 
21 june. If that one is ok or if you are readying a newer version soon, 
then do not bother to send me an update. I am looking fairly regular 
for updates. Anyway, I managed today to typeset my lucida fonts.

Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

2004-06-22 Thread jimarin
Hello there,

I have tried

 Try

 \usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
 \usetypescript [postscript][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]

 \starttext
 foo
 \stoptext

 How old is your ConTeXt? What TeX system do you have?

 Make sure that ther is a line in your logfile like:

 fonts  : [adobekb] [ec] []

 If this does not appear, post your complete logfile.

 Patrick

the line appears but the command fails

my ConTeXt is the latest...just downloaded

my TeX is the one that comes bundled with cygwin:

This is TeXk, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)

also

This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5)

the poor thing says that it cannot make:

mktextfm ec-uhvr8a

I enclose the output


thanks !


Jose


 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

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format : cont-en
 inputfile : new
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 %-line parsing enabled.
entering extended mode
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ConTeXt  ver: 2004.6.21  fmt: 2004.6.22  int: english  mes: english

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