Re: [NTG-context] Re: does context support vietnamese?

2004-11-18 Thread The Thanh Han
Hi Adam,

ET5 was the first proposed font encoding for vietnamese; then it was
renamed to X5 with a few modifications. T5 is a minor update -- it's
heavily based on X5 but I don't remember what has been changed.

Thanh

On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 10:10:57AM +, Adam Lindsay wrote:
 Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:05:21 +0100:
 
 The Thanh Han wrote:
 
  do you have a test file for another language, for example english or
  czech? Then I can translate that file to get a test file for vietnamese.
  What is the current status of context support for czech?
  
  BTW, the current official vietnamese font encoding used by plain and
  latex is named T5 instead of X5. You can get the latest stable version
  of vntex (fonts + latex/plain support) at vntex.sf.net
 
 Can those working on vietnamese also cc Thanh (the famous pdftex author)?
 
 I have been.
 
 Thanh, would you say that T5 is a replacement, an update for X5, or a new
 thing (meaning the enco-x5 work you did for ConTeXt should stay around)?
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Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: [NTG-context] A simple project.)

2004-11-18 Thread free
Le 17 nov. 04, à 11:53, Hans Hagen a écrit :
Maurice Diamantini wrote:
The objective is to had a line such
source /xxx/context/setup.sh
in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do
either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing.
Actually there has been something like that for a long time -)
- when a new tex live comes out, i remove my old texmf tree and copy 
the texlive one to my disk (ok, for the next one i need to copy both 
texmf and texmf-dist to texmf on my disk)
A new standard tex dist is always relatively easy to install
(tetex or texlive)...
- this will then include a version of context
... And there is a (old) version of context include.
But it is that way I'm using context today.
So far so good.
And I can personnalised my LaTeX distribution by using the
HOMETEXMF environment variable.

- alongside i keep texmf-local and a few more (which has the beta
context and such)
My problem (as a NOT guru xyzTeX administrator !) is precisely that
I have trouble in using a separate cont-tmf distribution in my own
tex tree (trouble with creating the formats).
i suppose I have to more investigate in this direction.
What I'm looking for, is a mean to use:
- my one cont-tmf uptodate tree, possibly with some near standard
  contrib addition (read soon to be include in the standard Context
  distrib e.g. t-bib, t-nath ;-)
- some personnal environnement variables (HOMETEXMF, or better:
  CONTEXT_HOME)
togother with any ***full standard LaTeX distribution*** wich I haven't
installed myself on a workstation I don't administre myself (read in 
hostile
environment :-). I only master my home directory.

If I have to modify the texlive distribution (or a configuration
file from). Then it is no more a standard texlive distrib.
So the two possibilities I envisage are:
1 - managing a separate context tree package in an hostile environment
(the prefered solution if robust)
2 - manage a separate full context system.
It's probable the easier way to go. And for less than 100 Mbytes
it is no much more heavy than the simple con-tmf plus the format.
Also, if I can do a multiplatform (powerpc-darwin, x86-linux, ...)
non intrusive (with concurrent LaTeX distribution),
I'll can make it installed everywere (around me).
I have yet to solve some confict in my environnement (because
for sample the context-live setup **cleer** all environment variable
which concerne LaTeX, kpath, and other HOMETEXMF variable.
This second item was the main objective of this thread Now is the 
time...
I think the work is almost done with the minimal context-live
distribution. It need just some setup adjust.

if you do
   rsync -v www.pragma-pod.com::
you will get all the trees that you can download
This doen't work at work because of a firewall.
I tried to use the option -e ssh which could work
if you had a secure shell demond enabled.
But it doesn't seem to!
The a try this night at home (with free.fr)
  rsync -av  www.pragma-pod.com::all  pragma-context-all
And it worked! (590 Moctets)
So this week-end, I have to retry to solve the setup problems.
because i seperate things in trees, there is no danger in clashes with 
existing stuff; also, the setup scripts set all variables in a 
defensive way,
so that there will be no clash with other distributions (that way i 
can also keep several project trees with older context versions 
available);
It a defensive way for ConTeXt user, not for LaTeX user.
the reason for using architectre paths is that it permits me to have 
out of sync binaries which means different pool files and formats)
\startLaughingMode
I agree that multi-architecture is needed, but the problem with
P.C users is that there is only two architecture in the world (;-)
1 - Windows
2 - the others
The most advanced pc users know also about linux and even linux-64
but an architecture is a combination between some hard  (sparc, powerpc,
x86, 64-x86) and some operating system (linux, bsd, sunos, cygwin,
darwin, )
This principle is very flexible, and support even inoperating system'
(dos, dos++, windose95, windose95.2, macosClone, ...)
\stopLaughingMode
The best way to get an idea on how to deal which multi-architecture
is to look at the config.guess and config.sub from gnu configure
system (which seems used by the texlive distribution).
Context need not support all the architecture combination, but should
support the standard architecture system.
Here are some examples of a binary tree:
 alpha-linux
 i386-linux
 i386-openbsd - i386-openbsd3.3
 i386-openbsd3.3
 powerpc-aix - powerpc-aix4.3.3.0
 powerpc-aix4.3.3.0
 powerpc-darwin - powerpc-darwin6.6
 powerpc-darwin6.6
 sparc-solaris - sparc-solaris2.7
 sparc-solaris2.7
 sparc64-linux
 win32
 win32-static
I have a script I use for shoosing between a few architecture.
I can be be update for adapting to the supported ConTeXt binaries
arctitecture.
http://www.ensta.fr/~diam/pub/guessarch/
All my configure scripts use set privaded string
e.g.
# CONTEXT_HOME can 

Re: [NTG-context] verb-ini and nath \(save|restore)catcode clash

2004-11-18 Thread Christopher Creutzig
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
verb-ini and nath both define (incompatible) instances of \save- and
\restorecatcode.  Simply renaming them in nath to
\NATH(save|restore)catcode seems to work fine.  Any suggestions?
 I had sent a patch for that some months ago.  Giuseppe, any chance of
an updated t-nath.tex in the near future?  The incompatibility with
\startequation ... \stopequation should also be fixed in some released
version.
regards,
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Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: [NTG-context] A simple project.)

2004-11-18 Thread free
Le 17 nov. 04, à 10:19, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :
Maurice Diamantini wrote:
So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for 
context,
Pragma propose à **independant** context distribution which :
1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables
This is the main item, because this requirement implies using 
non-standard executables. I agree with you that such a distribution 
would be a great thing to have, but unless some people are actually 
willing to invest (a fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply 
not going to happen.
Hum, I thought it would be possible to just change the name of the
environment variable used be the kpsea system.
But if these names are hard coded, perhaps it is still possible to patch
the source for all the external tools used by context and relying
on kpathsea.
I suppose that Hans could do a contextize perl script which automatise
this transformation from the standard tools archives.

I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost 
precisely a standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of 
ConTeXt, but it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not 
have unlimited time to spend on it. Anyway, have a look at

	http://www.metatex.org

Woaow!
This is very ambitious ! You are redoing the full tex envirenment!
If you realy want to do that, you should:
- first create a contributing information system (as the wiki context 
:-)
- create an open source project on sourceforge or something like that,
  (this mean mailing lists, cvs access, ...)
- and then call for a partitipation on comp.text.tex group.
I sure there is several TeX guru interested.

This project is much more that what I asked for!
Cordialement,
Maurice
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 Slides per Page

2004-11-18 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 18.11.2004 um 07:26 schrieb David Arnold:
Now, I would like to print my slides on US Letter, two slides  the 
page.
Page 1 should contain my first slide at the top, second at the bottom. 
Page
2 should contain my third slide at the top, fourth slide at the bottom.
Etc, Etc, Etc, ...
You could either use imposition (see arranging pages in the manual or 
Imposition in the wiki) or use modes like this:
\startnotmode[letter]
\page
\stopnotmode

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 Slides per Page

2004-11-18 Thread Vit Zyka

David Arnold wrote:
All,
I've got a slide show set up with:
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setuplayout
  [width=middle,
top=1cm,
bottom=1cm,
backspace=1cm,
leftmargin=0pt,
rightmargin=0pt,
footer=0pt,
header=0pt]
Then, I have material on a slide (page), followed by a \page command,
material on a slide (second page), followed by a \page command, material on
a slide (third page), followed by a \page command, 
Now, I would like to print my slides on US Letter, two slides  the page.
Page 1 should contain my first slide at the top, second at the bottom. Page
2 should contain my third slide at the top, fourth slide at the bottom.
Etc, Etc, Etc, ...
Just a hint:
use
  \setuparranging[2TOPSIDE]
  \setuppapersize[S3][letter]
and play with
  \setuplayout[...]
(I propose to use S3 (or S4? to fit the a half of letter height) or 
scale S6 down.)

beneficial is splitting processing by modes
\doifmodeelse{print}
  {...print stuff...}
  {...screen stuff...}
Regards,
Vit Zyka
Can someonw show me how to do this?
Thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] 2 Slides per Page

2004-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
Just a hint:
use
  \setuparranging[2TOPSIDE]
  \setuppapersize[S3][letter]
for fun you can play with the imposition interface at
  www.pragma-pod.com - exa - impose
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Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.

2004-11-18 Thread Dirar BOUGATEF
Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) )
Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the question 
is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is the one that 
handles context updates etc. just in case i have to reinstall every thing 
from scratch .. :=)

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Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.

2004-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) )
Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the 
question is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is 
the one that handles context updates etc. just in case i have to 
reinstall every thing from scratch .. :=)
texmf-fonts
Hans
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] verb-ini and nath \(save|restore)catcode clash

2004-11-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 18, 2004 Christopher Creutzig wrote:

 Nikolai Weibull wrote:

 verb-ini and nath both define (incompatible) instances of \save- and
 \restorecatcode.  Simply renaming them in nath to
 \NATH(save|restore)catcode seems to work fine.  Any suggestions?

   I had sent a patch for that some months ago.  Giuseppe, any chance of
 an updated t-nath.tex in the near future?  The incompatibility with
 \startequation ... \stopequation should also be fixed in some released
 version.

You're right, sorry. I've been rather busy until recently and
I'm only now catching up with the past mail and getting a few
things done.

I'll try to have the new amsl and nath modules out today.

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[NTG-context] Updated math modules

2004-11-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello guys,

attached to the following please find a .tar.bz2-packed file
containing updated t-amsl and t-nath.

Those of you that had any problems, please try these modules.
In particular, when you had to use a workaround (e.g.
\startnathequation) revert to the original (e.g. \startformula)
and check that things now work correctly. If you find any
problems and/or find I forgot to apply some patches, please
repost your problems/patches as an answer to this email.

I'll also send the updates to CTAN.

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maths.tar.bz2
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupURL issues

2004-11-18 Thread Adam Lindsay
Nikolai--

I just ran into this bug on my own and noticed your message on-list. Did
you get it resolved, cos you're right: it's ugly.

Nikolai Weibull said this at Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:02:36 +0200:

\setupURL
  [color=blue]

seems buggy.  Try this:

\setupcolors
  [state=start]
\setupinteraction
  [state=start]
\setupurl
  [color=blue]
\useURL[one][http://www.google.com/]
\starttext
Why the hell is \from[one] wrapping so badly?
\stoptext

You will (hopefully...or something) notice that the http:// appears
above and slightly to the left of www.google.com in the sentence.
remove \setupurl[...] and it works fine, rendering it green.  It also
works fine if you remove the color=blue and add style=type instead or
whatever.  In noninteractive versions this works fine though and in
documents without \setupcolors[state=start],
   nikolai

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Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.

2004-11-18 Thread Dirar BOUGATEF
Great. I have installed my fonts another time, i get my tfm + vfs at the 
right place. Have updated pdftex.cfg in C:\mytex\texmf-local\pdftex\config 
too with +map filename. Have updated my files databases with mktexlsr. But 
my font fles are not found.

This is the error message i get:
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-OPN): Font texnansi-raw-OPN at 72 
not f
ound
c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfbc:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/b
luesky/cm/cmr8.pfb
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 72 
not f
ound

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 58 
not f
ound

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 130 
not
found
Output written on BusinessPlan.pdf (44 pages, 47617 bytes).
Transcript written on BusinessPlan.log.

Am i missing some else .. ?
Thanks in advance ..
Dirar.
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Re: [NTG-context] cite-problem

2004-11-18 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Bernd Militzer wrote:
Hi Taco,
if the authors name is Mller, Mller or  Dobe\v{s} (german/czech) 
^   ^ ^
It seems to be the same problem I had in the past with seeindex, which
Hans has fixed.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what goes wrong, so I am also unsure
how to fix it.
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupURL issues

2004-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
I just ran into this bug on my own and noticed your message on-list. Did
you get it resolved, cos you're right: it's ugly.
hm, interesting bug, i'll spare you the details
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[NTG-context] LaTeX2ConTeXt.tex can't compiled

2004-11-18 Thread VnPenguin
Hi,
I'm trying to compile
http://www.berenddeboer.net/tex/LaTeX2ConTeXt.tex in my FC3 box (tetex
2.0.2). But it does not work:

$ texexec --interface=en --pdf --environment=screen --mode=screen LaTeX2ConTeXt
...
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-bit-charter.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antp.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antt.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-bookman.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-courier.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-palatino.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-times.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-px.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-tx.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-bh-lucida.map
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))

! Font \*12ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
to be read again 
   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
  \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.3 \setupbodyfont[ber,pos]
   
? 

I have tried with pdfetex 1.10b  1.20b. But the same error was found.

Anyone could tell me how to fix this please.

Thank you in advance,

PS: I have already file screen.tex in current directory when compiling.
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-18 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 18, 2004 16:40]:
  \usemodule[nath]
  \starttext
  \startnathequation
\underbrace{\mathstrut rr\dots r}_{n \text{times}}
  \stopnathequation
  \stoptext

  Error:

  ! Missing } inserted.
  inserted text

  My guess is that the expansion of \mathstrut, being \vphantom(, is being
  misinterpreted as a delimiter (as '(' is active in nath), but that's
  just a layman's guess.

 Bingo. In nath this is now fixed by letting \mathstrut use |
 instead of (.

:-)

 I'll try to get the new amsl and nath modules out today.

Thanks, great work.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but I just found another bug:

\usemodule[nath]
\starttext
$A \longrightarrow B$
\stoptext

gives

! Undefined control sequence.
\dodosmash [#1]-\edef \@@smash
{#1}\futurelet \nexttoken \dododosmash
\relbar -\mathrel {\smash
   -}
\longrightarrow -\relbar
  \joinrel \rightarrow
argument A \longrightarrow
 B
\inlinemath ...inemath@ {\noexpand \wrapfrac@ { #1
  }} \endgroup \protectinlin...

\imath@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \inlinemath {#1}
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...
l.19 $A \longrightarrow B$

? 

which seems a bit more difficult to fix.  I can't do it anyway,
nikolai

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Re: [NTG-context] Updated math modules

2004-11-18 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 18, 2004 17:10]:
 Those of you that had any problems, please try these modules.
 In particular, when you had to use a workaround (e.g.
 \startnathequation) revert to the original (e.g. \startformula)
 and check that things now work correctly. If you find any
 problems and/or find I forgot to apply some patches, please
 repost your problems/patches as an answer to this email.

I posted this to another thread, but there's a problem with
\longrightarrow:

\usemodule[nath]
\starttext
$A \longrightarrow B$
\stoptext

gives

! Undefined control sequence.
\dodosmash [#1]-\edef \@@smash
{#1}\futurelet \nexttoken \dododosmash
\relbar -\mathrel {\smash
   -}
\longrightarrow -\relbar
  \joinrel \rightarrow
argument A \longrightarrow
 B
\inlinemath ...inemath@ {\noexpand \wrapfrac@ { #1
  }} \endgroup \protectinlin...

\imath@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \inlinemath {#1}
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
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...
l.19 $A \longrightarrow B$

? 

Sorry I couldn't get you this sooner,
nikolai


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Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX2ConTeXt.tex can't compiled

2004-11-18 Thread Berend de Boer
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VnPenguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ! Font \*12ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
 not found.

This looks like a fairly basic error. You don't seem to have the
metric files for postscript fonts, so it looks your installation
is not complete.

I guess this document doesn't compile either:

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\setupbodyfont[ber,pos]

\starttext

hello.

\stoptext
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For now, just comment out the setupbodyfont in screen.tex or
paper.tex. You will use the standard TeX fonts, not the postscript
fonts.

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Berend de Boer
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[NTG-context] Problem with \completeindex

2004-11-18 Thread Nikolai Weibull
In teTeX 2.99.3 (2004.11.09), the following hangs pdfetex:

\starttext
\index{see}see
\completeindex
\stoptext

They're using context 2004.10.26,
nikolai

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