Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?
Vit Zyka wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Vit Zyka wrote: Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus, sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting preserves grid: --- \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm] \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt] \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm] \showgrid \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:} \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba} \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line} \starttext \v Sejba\par Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}: \placelist[section] no! \stoptext -- I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line setting, I also tried to \setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt} but without success to lounging on the grid. this is the default ratio: \setupinterlinespace [height=.72, depth=.28] Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood: - height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of struts (add description to tex-show) - some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio - list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative) - only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET \Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be glue instead of skip? For better line fitting. example: -- \setupbodyfont[10pt,rm] \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23] \setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm] \showgrid \setuplist[section] [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem] \def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }} \starttext \writetolist[section]{}{See the next line} \writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba} \writetolist[section]{}{Another list line} \writetolist[section]{}{And the last one} \lineskiplimit=-10pt Line\par Anothet line of \v Sejba\par \placelist[section] \strut %% should be! why? After list line. \stoptext -- Vit \setuplist [section] [style=\tfd, alternative=none, after=\blank, before=\blank, command=\MyListItem] \setuplist [section] [style=\tfd, alternative=command command=\MyListItem] in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new): \unprotect \def\definelistplacement {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement} \def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]% {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}% {\doifelsenothing{#2} {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}% {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2} {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}% \setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}% {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}% \setvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}} \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3% {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) } \protect now you can say: \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3% {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) } \setuplist [section] [style=\tfd, alternative=MyListItem, after=\blank, before=\blank] (btw, watch how one can ask for listparameters) \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3% {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) } \setuplist [section] [style=\tfd, alternative=MyListItem, after=\blank, before=\blank] \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3% {\listparameter{before} \listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) \listparameter{after}} Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] tex vs etex
Hi, Is anyone using tex i.e. not pdfetex/aleph/xetex? I'd likt to go etex only which in the end is needed anyway since we run out of token list registers (in etex more we're already past 255) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Sorting index (in Spanish)
Dear Fellow-Contexters, I have been charged with editing a ConTeXt document in Spanish (of which I understand preciously little). This far I have gotten over the hurdles of hyphenation, labeltexts and the upside-down exclamation mark (and as far as we can tell, the Spanish hyphenation patterns get loaded, too), but now I have a problem sorting the index: the words 'ángulo' and 'índice' get sorted in the beginning of the index instead of among a and i. It tried putting something like the example below in a) the setup part of my document, b) just before the index (a bit like in the example at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2005/008346.html, except that I use the command \placeindex and not \completeindex) and c) in the lang-ita.tex file. % Changes to sorting to fix the sorting of accented letters \startlanguagespecifics[es] \definesortkey {\´a}{a}{a}{\´a} % á sorted among 'a' \definesortkey {\´i}{i}{i}{\´i} % í sorted among 'i' \stoplanguagespecifics None of the options a)-c) worked and I'm thinking that this is more of a stupid user problem, i.e. as I cannot find any description on how \definesortkey works, I just don't understand how to use it properly. Any help??? Mari PS. Tried to find related info in contextgarden.net, but can't find much - if it isn't there, I can add stuff (*after* I solve this problem) if somebody tells me where I may start growing this flower of mine. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Sorting index (in Spanish)
Mari Voipio wrote: Dear Fellow-Contexters, I have been charged with editing a ConTeXt document in Spanish (of which I understand preciously little). This far I have gotten over the hurdles of hyphenation, labeltexts and the upside-down exclamation mark (and as far as we can tell, the Spanish hyphenation patterns get loaded, too), but now I have a problem sorting the index: the words 'ángulo' and 'índice' get sorted in the beginning of the index instead of among a and i. It tried putting something like the example below in a) the setup part of my document, b) just before the index (a bit like in the example at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2005/008346.html, except that I use the command \placeindex and not \completeindex) and c) in the lang-ita.tex file. % Changes to sorting to fix the sorting of accented letters \startlanguagespecifics[es] \definesortkey {\´a}{a}{a}{\´a} % á sorted among 'a' \definesortkey {\´i}{i}{i}{\´i} % í sorted among 'i' \stoplanguagespecifics None of the options a)-c) worked and I'm thinking that this is more of a stupid user problem, i.e. as I cannot find any description on how \definesortkey works, I just don't understand how to use it properly. Any help??? let's try the new texutil variant since that can have language plugins needed: = example file in spanish = sort order Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] tex vs etex
Hi Hans, I only use aleph and pdfetex. I am concerned however, because aleph uses an older version of etex, and so there may be unintended consequences ( bad for me-) Giuseppe is busy, but maybe he has some initial thoughts on this? Best Idris = Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl = Hi, Is anyone using tex i.e. not pdfetex/aleph/xetex? I'd likt to go etex only which in the end is needed anyway since we run out of token list registers (in etex more we're already past 255) Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tex vs etex
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi Hans, I only use aleph and pdfetex. I am concerned however, because aleph uses an older version of etex, and so there may be unintended consequences ( bad for me-) don't worry, the things that i use are available in aleph; also, the formerly broken register stuff in etex (year ago) does not apply to aleph which uses a different model (actually, if you use aleph, context already enters etex mode -) Giuseppe is busy, but maybe he has some initial thoughts on this? ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Presentation
I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p. % demoTest \usemodule[pre-08] %D The demo text. \starttext \TitlePage {Fancy Styles:\\layers} \StartIdea \StartSample \input tufte \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \StartIdea \StartSample \input knuth \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \stoptext % EOF I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what to I should check My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-( Thanks! -a- On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote: I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller). You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also s-pre-22.tex? This would explain it --- Matthias On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote: Hi, very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically). I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex. I copied the demo part of s-pre-22. Here it is: %D \module %D [ file=s-pre-22, \usemodule[s-pre-22] %D The demo text. \starttext etc. Now, I compiled but I obtained: ! Undefined control sequence. l.9 \TitlePage {Indeed}{The Title Page} What am I missing? Thanks a lot -a- On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote: Hi, Jessica The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At the end of the module you have the examples are given. copy the examples in seperate file and add the module no name from with the example was taken. \usemodule[pre-**] and compile the files. iam sure you can select your flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your requirement. thanks upendran __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Presentation
andrea valle wrote: I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p. % demoTest \usemodule[pre-08] %D The demo text. \starttext \TitlePage {Fancy Styles:\\layers} \StartIdea \StartSample \input tufte \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \StartIdea \StartSample \input knuth \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \stoptext % EOF I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what to I should check My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-( Thanks! -a- Hi, Andrea, Just no panic, everything can be solved. I noticed two problems: 1. remove \input reich (or replace the reich it with any other tex file residing in the tex/context/sample/ directory) (reich.tex is written in Dutch interface, I don't know if that's intentionally, but as nobody ever uses it, nobody else noticed that anyway. Probably either the reich.tex itself or at least the demo example should be changed in the official distribution.) 2. \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt] in s-pre-08.tex I think this is already a deprecated way for font selecting now, but as have more problems than knowledge benefit about/from fonts, someone else has to tell you what's the best way to overcome this. Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Presentation
Hi Andrea, I would like to add to Mojca's second comment. A possible way to deal with the font problem is to use a font that is already in your system. I tried using the Lucida Bright Font and it worked. First I copied s-pre-08.tex into my working directory and renamed it to my-pre.tex. Then I changed the following line \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt] into \setupbodyfont[lbr,10pt] and used \usemodule[my-pre] instead of \usemodule[pre-08] in my source file. saji p.s: If you have the time, a great way to learn ConTeXt is to go through the source code of the modules and use the ConTeXt manuals to understand them... On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: andrea valle wrote: I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p. % demoTest \usemodule[pre-08] %D The demo text. \starttext \TitlePage {Fancy Styles:\\layers} \StartIdea \StartSample \input tufte \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \StartIdea \StartSample \input knuth \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \stoptext % EOF I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what to I should check My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-( Thanks! -a- Hi, Andrea, Just no panic, everything can be solved. I noticed two problems: 1. remove \input reich (or replace the reich it with any other tex file residing in the tex/context/sample/ directory) (reich.tex is written in Dutch interface, I don't know if that's intentionally, but as nobody ever uses it, nobody else noticed that anyway. Probably either the reich.tex itself or at least the demo example should be changed in the official distribution.) 2. \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt] in s-pre-08.tex I think this is already a deprecated way for font selecting now, but as have more problems than knowledge benefit about/from fonts, someone else has to tell you what's the best way to overcome this. Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Presentation
Hi Andrea, I think there are now two different issues causing problems here. i) There is a font problem with s-pre-08, as noted by Mojca and Saji, but you don't get far enough to run into it. On Aug 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, andrea valle wrote: ii) You are using funny characters in your file. When I copy and paste your input into TeXShop, I get the same error message, which baffled me quite a bit. Then I noticed when I remove the blank line between % demoTest and \TitlePage, the latter will be become colored like a comment. This means that your line end characters aren't the right ones. You can make this plainly visible by opening your file with something like BBedit. There is a funny character in front of \TitlePage. You need to get rid of it. Unfortunately, I have no idea how you managed to get the character in the first place. Are you using MacOsRoman as the encoding (shows in Save As)? Try to paste the following into TeXShop (I guess you will then run into a font issue later...) \usemodule[pre-08] \starttext \TitlePage {Fancy Styles:\\layers} \StartIdea \StartSample \input tufte \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \StartIdea \StartSample \input knuth \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \stoptext Matthias I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p. % demoTest \usemodule[pre-08] %D The demo text. \starttext \TitlePage {Fancy Styles:\\layers} \StartIdea \StartSample \input tufte \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \StartIdea \StartSample \input knuth \StopSample \StartText \input reich \StopText \StopIdea \stoptext % EOF I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what to I should check My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-( Thanks! -a- On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote: I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller). You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also s-pre-22.tex? This would explain it --- Matthias On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote: Hi, very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically). I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex. I copied the demo part of s-pre-22. Here it is: %D \module %D [ file=s-pre-22, \usemodule[s-pre-22] %D The demo text. \starttext etc. Now, I compiled but I obtained: ! Undefined control sequence. l.9 \TitlePage {Indeed}{The Title Page} What am I missing? Thanks a lot -a- On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote: Hi, Jessica The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At the end of the module you have the examples are given. copy the examples in seperate file and add the module no name from with the example was taken. \usemodule[pre-**] and compile the files. iam sure you can select your flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your requirement. thanks upendran __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle Laboratorio multimediale G. Quazza Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context