Re: [NTG-context] no overfull hbox warning
� wrote: In general, I think there should be more error- or warning-messages in ConTeXt, so that one can grep the output for the words error or warning to test if all is ok. Quite often, you see a problem only in the pdf-file, but there is no warning message in the output (font issus for example). esp with regards to font issues: one can only provide warning by letting tex enter error mode which slows down things; testing for the availability of fonts is not possible otherwise Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] texexec --version
VnPenguin wrote: On 1/28/06, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, texexec --version creates always the files texvers-mpgraph.mp and mpgraph.mp. Is this really necessary? No, you could remove them. texutil --purge (ctxtools --purge) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation exceptions
� wrote: Hello, I don't want to tell TeX about hyphenation exceptions in the text, only once for all in an environment file. How can I do this with words like DNA-Fragmente or $\beta$-Verkn�pfung ? \hyphenation{...} does not seem to work here, and I don't want to write DNA-Frag\-men\-te nor $\beta$-Ver\-kn�p\-fung in the text. DNA||Fragmente DNA|-|Fragmente Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] texexec --version
Taco Hoekwater wrote: VnPenguin wrote: On 1/28/06, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, texexec --version creates always the files texvers-mpgraph.mp and mpgraph.mp. Is this really necessary? We can patch texexec to do this automatically, no problem. if ($Version} { $Purge = 1 } should do the trick - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] error in patterns treatment?
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: On Jan 28, 2006, at 12:27, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: Has something in the system changed? The Januari 27 version, or the one Hans uploaded this morning? The 27 januari version. Downloaded it this morning, about 10.15 or so. I guess from your question there is a new one and see it now on the pragma site. Will download it and see if problem gone. I probably should have woken up somewhat later this morning :-) I have no problems here. Perhaps you had a timing problem with Hans' upload yesterday? when i generate the zips, i also generate all formats, so normally context and patterns should match; must be some timing issue indeed (patterns are in the main zip, no need for the extra zip; i'll remove that one) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] eqalign name clash
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: I see in core-mat.tex a macro \eqalign#1 (line 1514). It is new I think, but its name CLASHES with the standard TeX \eqalign math macro. I do not think that wise and had to comment it out in my working copy. Everything being fine again after that. Not a name clash, but a typo. There should not be braces around the .25\bodyfontsize inside the \eqalign definition. It should read: \openup.25\bodyfontsize% was: \openup\jot the latest version is ok and has some more math (matrix and sucn) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes
Hans van der Meer wrote: At the end of the text (or chapter) the last batch of footnotes is not always placed, not even when an index follows. They must be forced with \placefootnotes. It happened both with footnotes bytext and bychapter. Is this the normal behaviour? Must I end (for footnotes bychapter) each chapter with \placefootnotes? can you make me a small example file? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] SciTE and TeXLive
Hi, Are the SciTE configuration files on Windows only supposed to work with MikTeX or do they work with other implementations as well? Do I have to copy all language .properties files even though I am going to use only English? Do I have to modify any .properties files, if I want to load only cont-en-scite.properties? Sincerely, Hooman Javidnia, Ph.D. Candidate Dept. of Electrical Computer Eng. The University of Western Ontario ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] SciTE and TeXLive
Hooman Javidnia wrote: Hi, Are the SciTE configuration files on Windows only supposed to work with MikTeX or do they work with other implementations as well? Do I have to copy all language .properties files even though I am going to use only English? Do I have to modify any .properties files, if I want to load only cont-en-scite.properties? they should work with any tex, given that texmfstart and/or texexec are known Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with German quotes and kerning
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Oh my, I shouldn't have asked about this problem... Sorry, but with the latest 'n greatest, I get: \quotation{W} == no kerning `W == output is just the quotedblbase, the W is gobbled, and in the log, I see: (\end occurred inside a group at level 1) ### simple group (level 1) entered at line 45 ({) ### bottom level line 45 being where the ` occurs. well, your self-punishment has been increased with another ten wiki pages i'll fix it, for the moment say: \def\nohandledelimitedtext {\delimitedtextparameter} btw, we need another mapping of ' anyway, so i'll make an update Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting and formula
Renaud AUBIN wrote: To indent or not to indent, that is the question !!! ;-) \setupformulas[indentnext=yes] Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with German quotes and kerning
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: can you test \installcompoundcharacter ` {\delimitedtext[\v!quotation]} \installcompoundcharacter ' {} btw, currewntly the method=font is mistakenly the default; in the update you need to expliclty say \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] setuptyping
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: I get some unexpected results with setuptyping. According to the manual the style-parameter has options normal, bold, small, etc. AFAICS, this has not worked in a very very long time, and it may even be a bug in the documentation. But it was easy to fix the code, so see attached file with a small change to the \setupcommonverbatim routine. it's indeed a bug in the documentation, and maybe a font parameter is better; the reason is that verbatim is one of the trickiest part of (any) tex macro package, if only because tex needs to be able to typeset tex for HansH: I did not want to call \startattributes, so I invented a new macro called '\getstylevalue'. i'll have a look at it Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] setuptyping
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: I get some unexpected results with setuptyping. According to the manual the style-parameter has options normal, bold, small, etc. AFAICS, this has not worked in a very very long time, and it may even be a bug in the documentation. But it was easy to fix the code, so see attached file with a small change to the \setupcommonverbatim routine. for HansH: I did not want to call \startattributes, so I invented a new macro called '\getstylevalue'. \def\verbatimfont{\dosetfontattribute{#1}\c!style\normalnoligatures\font}% so, there is a macro that kind of does what your's does: \dosetfontattribute i'll apply your patch (i need to move the attr code from core-spa to font-att or so) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with German quotes and kerning
Hans Hagen wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Oh my, I shouldn't have asked about this problem... Sorry, but with the latest 'n greatest, I get: \quotation{W} == no kerning For this to work, \dofontdrivendelimited has to be defined like so: \unprotect \def\dofontdrivendelimited#1% {\languageparameter{\c!left\currentdelimitedtext}% #1% \languageparameter{\c!right\currentdelimitedtext}} \protect Both \groupedcommand and \symbol intersect stuff that breaks kerning, so should be avoided. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with German quotes and kerning
On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: well, your self-punishment has been increased with another ten wiki pages :-) Yes, I'll make amends... Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Using Ralph Smith's Formal Script font
Aditya Mahajan wrote: How do I use Ralph Smith's formal script font [1] within context. I want to define a command like \mathrsfs{A} that will use A in this font. one can make symbols (see symb-*.tex), which is probably the best way to go here; otherwise peek into math-*.tex files to see how math symbols can be defined. (the tricky part is that normally math script fonts have more chars so overloading one by a RS fotn may give problems) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] U3D (embedded 3D objects)
Matthias Weber wrote: Hello, is there support for .u3d files in ConTeXt available or planned? This would take advantage of Acrobat 7 support for these 3D data files. There is a LaTeX package (http:// www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/) that does that, and it even works on my Mac. (mime type controlled i assume that you refer to support for graphic formats that depend on specific plug-ins; contrary to the older support for movies, such features need a bit more, in particular a relationship between the part of the screen where the stuff is shown and the place where the resources are embedded and refered to. the framework for that has been present for a while now (was implemented right after 6 came out) but in practice only a fraction of the plugins / graphic formats work ok (for instance, smill based graphics/sequences are rather plug-in dependent and buggy); the mediashow stuff on the site and in the distributions implements this renderign) \definerenderingwindow [example] [width=320pt,height=150pt,frame=off, background=color,backgroundcolor=gray, openpageaction=StartCurrentRendering, closepageaction=NextPage]% StopCurrentRendering] \useexternalrendering[example-1][audio/mpeg] [eldorado.mp3] \useexternalrendering[example-2][audio/mpeg] [myst-12.mp3] \useexternalrendering[example-3][application/x-shockwave-flash][http://localhost/mb.swf] [auto] \useexternalrendering[example-4][application/x-shockwave-flash][celebration.swf] \useexternalrendering[example-5][video/quicktime] [p1000726.mov] \useexternalrendering[example-6][application/smil] [quadratic_map.smi] \def\renderingmenu[#1]% {\hbox {\setupbuttons[width=2.5em]% \button{\symbol[StartRendering]} [StartRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[StopRendering]} [StopRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[PauseRendering]} [PauseRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[ResumeRendering]}[ResumeRendering{#1}]}} \renderingmenu[example-1]\blank \renderingmenu[example-2]\blank \renderingmenu[example-3]\blank \renderingmenu[example-4] \placefigure{A ShockWave}{\placerenderingwindow[example][example-4]} \page \renderingmenu[example-5] \placefigure{A Movie}{\placerenderingwindow[example][example-5]} \page \renderingmenu[example-6] \placefigure{A Smile}{\placerenderingwindow[example][example-6]} etc etc (see x-res-50 for other examples) much of the plugin behaviou can be tuned with key/values in pdf, but it is rather messy (kind of: the plugin provides this, so we need these and those keys): no clear consistent model is present); in order for me to provide more detailed support, i first need to cook up a more or less consistent control model (not too much pdf dependent) since whenever possible, i keep context's interface independent of the pdf way of doing things so, if you want more detailed support for this i need (1) proper conforming resources, and (2) a description of what is needed (which is not the same as a cut and paste from the pdf spec with all possible features) and (3) time and (4) motivation (i.e. it should be usable, used, etc etc;) implementing pdf related features just because it's in pdf is no longer a good motive since pdf specs/functionality keeps changing, esp in those areas it's rather instable - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation exceptions
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Write: $\beta$||Verknüpfung instead. The two bars break the single word in two seperate ones, and both are hyphenated normally ($\beta$ will not hyphenate of course, but you get the idea, I hope). A few things can be inbetween the ||'s, for words like |(|multi|)|valued but normally you use just ||. This even makes sure that the compound hyphen is slightly longer then the auto-inserted one, so that it is still possible to distinguish that it is a compound word if hyphenation happens right at the ||. Hello Taco, thanks, this is a nice little feature! Is it already documented somewhere, or should I add something to the wiki? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] request about combinations
Hans van der Meer wrote: A modest request, that is probably in principle not too difficult to fulfil. With many commands (\framed for example) I can do a setup for general behaviour and do something special at the actual call. Like this: \setupframed[options...] \framed[individual options ...] It would be pleasant if I could do the same with combinations, but there I do not get to work a similar behaviour: \setupcombinations[align=middle,location=top] \startcombination[2*1][location=middle] Is it an option for Hans to build this into the code? It would also make ConTeXt's behaviour more regular if every command that has a \setupcommand[options] would always allow \command[options]. If some have it and some not it strains the brain. you can add a feature request at the collector (and also mention/collect what commands need that tweak) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] IRC contextgarden
Hi all, In your opinion, what's the best place in contextgarden to put a #context minihowto section ? Cheers ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with German quotes and kerning
On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: can you test \installcompoundcharacter ` {\delimitedtext[\v!quotation]} \installcompoundcharacter ' {} AFAICS, this doesn't change anything, the first character after the ` is still gobbled, and I get the same warning in the log file. Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation exceptions
� wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Write: $\beta$||Verkn�pfung instead. The two bars break the single word in two seperate ones, and both are hyphenated normally ($\beta$ will not hyphenate of course, but you get the idea, I hope). A few things can be inbetween the ||'s, for words like |(|multi|)|valued but normally you use just ||. This even makes sure that the compound hyphen is slightly longer then the auto-inserted one, so that it is still possible to distinguish that it is a compound word if hyphenation happens right at the ||. Hello Taco, thanks, this is a nice little feature! Is it already documented somewhere, it's an old feature so there should be docu in several places (at least it's shown here and there) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes
A small sample file is difficult because I had the impression it did not always happen; with me these things seem to happen mostly with big files :-) Another complication is that sometimes a footnote was withheld and I could not find out what caused it. When I retyped sentence.\footnote sometimes the footnote did appear as it should. I sent the problem to this newsgroup just in case it was a readily recognized phenomenon. It seems not, so I propose to let it go for the moment. I will watch out for it to happen and then will first try to nail it down to a small sample before reporting again. yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer On Jan 30, 2006, at 11:49, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans van der Meer wrote: At the end of the text (or chapter) the last batch of footnotes is not always placed, not even when an index follows. They must be forced with \placefootnotes. It happened both with footnotes bytext and bychapter. Is this the normal behaviour? Must I end (for footnotes bychapter) each chapter with \placefootnotes? can you make me a small example file? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes
Hans van der Meer wrote: A small sample file is difficult because I had the impression it did not always happen; with me these things seem to happen mostly with big files :-) Another complication is that sometimes a footnote was withheld and I could not find out what caused it. When I retyped sentence.\footnote sometimes the footnote did appear as it should. that has to do with the fact that tex has to find an optimum you can play with the 'split' parameter and set it to tolerant, strict, verystrict I sent the problem to this newsgroup just in case it was a readily recognized phenomenon. It seems not, so I propose to let it go for the moment. I will watch out for it to happen and then will first try to nail it down to a small sample before reporting again. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] music!
Dear list, I've finished my first complete score created with lily + context. It will be (should be) performed by the percussionist of the Orchestra Sinfonica Nazionale Rai (the National Television Orchestra) on february . (Apart from the music) Wow, everybody seeing it and used to Finale, Sibelius, etc, is deeply impressed. Me too, I have happily to say. Here you can see it: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/Iscrizioni/pdf/iscrizioni.pdf ConTeXt is obviously mentioned in the credit box. Many thanks to the community for support Best -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)
OK, this may not be of much help, but I just converted GenR102.TTF to pfb via fontforge, and now the font correctly picks up the dcroat glyph. I mus admit I had similar situations in the past where simply regenerating the font would solve mysterious problems, so I shrugged my shoulders and did what a man must do. I think the new Gentium license allows for this conversion, and the LaTeX people will be distributing pfbs anyway, so why not convert to pfb (which is easier for TeX to use anyway?) Hi Thomas, You're completely right ! Just tried with PFB (converted by fontforge) and it works :) Package Gentium (PFB converted by fontforge) with qx,t5,texnansi, ec : http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/fonts/Gentium102-context.tgz Tested ok with T5. -- http://vnoss.org Vietnamese Open Source Software Community ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] music!
On 30 Jan 2006, at 17:21, andrea valle wrote: Dear list, I've finished my first complete score created with lily + context. It will be (should be) performed by the percussionist of the Orchestra Sinfonica Nazionale Rai (the National Television Orchestra) on february . (Apart from the music) Wow, everybody seeing it and used to Finale, Sibelius, etc, is deeply impressed. Me too, I have happily to say. Here you can see it: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/Iscrizioni/pdf/iscrizioni.pdf Beautiful. ConTeXt is obviously mentioned in the credit box. And TeXShop I see. But not TeX (Knuth) itself? Where would ConTeXt be without TeX? Con't... ;-) G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] U3D (embedded 3D objects)
Hello Hans, thanks for the information. Here is where I am: I am using and talking about 3D objects all the time as part of my professional life, and it would be nice to be able to include them as part of PDF files both for presentations and class notes (which I do both in CoNTeXt). As with Acrobat 7, one can embed such 3D graphics in a PDF, Acrobat then shows (very much like with a movie) a surrounding box within which one can rotate, move scale the 3D image. I f available, I would replace most of my 3D graphics with 3D objects (surface). This is of course a rather specialized desire, I suppose. I can say that it does work, even on a Mac, I tried a LaTeX example. I don't know whether it works via a plug-in or is coded directly in Acrobat, I only know it works with Acrobat 7 without installing anything else. There is one problem though: None of my software or own code currently exports into the required format U3D. If support was already available within ConTeXt, I would be motivated to write some code so that I can export my 3D files to U3D. That not being the case, I think we let it rest here until we both have nothing better to do (...). Matthias On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Matthias Weber wrote: Hello, is there support for .u3d files in ConTeXt available or planned? This would take advantage of Acrobat 7 support for these 3D data files. There is a LaTeX package (http:// www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/) that does that, and it even works on my Mac. (mime type controlled i assume that you refer to support for graphic formats that depend on specific plug-ins; contrary to the older support for movies, such features need a bit more, in particular a relationship between the part of the screen where the stuff is shown and the place where the resources are embedded and refered to. the framework for that has been present for a while now (was implemented right after 6 came out) but in practice only a fraction of the plugins / graphic formats work ok (for instance, smill based graphics/sequences are rather plug-in dependent and buggy); the mediashow stuff on the site and in the distributions implements this renderign) \definerenderingwindow [example] [width=320pt,height=150pt,frame=off, background=color,backgroundcolor=gray, openpageaction=StartCurrentRendering, closepageaction=NextPage]% StopCurrentRendering] \useexternalrendering[example-1][audio/mpeg] [eldorado.mp3] \useexternalrendering[example-2][audio/mpeg] [myst-12.mp3] \useexternalrendering[example-3][application/x-shockwave-flash] [http://localhost/mb.swf] [auto] \useexternalrendering[example-4][application/x-shockwave-flash] [celebration.swf] \useexternalrendering[example-5][video/quicktime] [p1000726.mov] \useexternalrendering[example-6][application/smil] [quadratic_map.smi] \def\renderingmenu[#1]% {\hbox {\setupbuttons[width=2.5em]% \button{\symbol[StartRendering]} [StartRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[StopRendering]} [StopRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[PauseRendering]} [PauseRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[ResumeRendering]}[ResumeRendering{#1}]}} \renderingmenu[example-1]\blank \renderingmenu[example-2]\blank \renderingmenu[example-3]\blank \renderingmenu[example-4] \placefigure{A ShockWave} {\placerenderingwindow[example][example-4]} \page \renderingmenu[example-5] \placefigure{A Movie} {\placerenderingwindow[example][example-5]} \page \renderingmenu[example-6] \placefigure{A Smile} {\placerenderingwindow[example][example-6]} etc etc (see x-res-50 for other examples) much of the plugin behaviou can be tuned with key/values in pdf, but it is rather messy (kind of: the plugin provides this, so we need these and those keys): no clear consistent model is present); in order for me to provide more detailed support, i first need to cook up a more or less consistent control model (not too much pdf dependent) since whenever possible, i keep context's interface independent of the pdf way of doing things so, if you want more detailed support for this i need (1) proper conforming resources, and (2) a description of what is needed (which is not the same as a cut and paste from the pdf spec with all possible features) and (3) time and (4) motivation (i.e. it should be usable, used, etc etc;) implementing pdf related features just because it's in pdf is no longer a good motive since pdf specs/functionality keeps changing, esp in those areas it's rather instable - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
Re: [NTG-context] IRC contextgarden
Hi, In your opinion, what's the best place in contextgarden to put a #context minihowto section ? I have created a first little section on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Web_resources (although 'web' is of course wrong), please (somebody) edit that mini-section on that page. You could follow the link I have created in the first sentence to put the minihowto there. Does that make sense? Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] music!
Beautiful. (Thanks) ConTeXt is obviously mentioned in the credit box. And TeXShop I see. But not TeX (Knuth) itself? Where would ConTeXt be without TeX? Con't... ;-) It's a problem of recursion. I consider TeX embedded... You know, also LilyPond includes many free libraries (from fondu to pango to imagfemagick). I cannot mention all. But thinking back again I can surely include i-Installer TeX distro. Fundamental... Sorry Gerben, I hope I will have another performance :-) Best -a- G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] U3D (embedded 3D objects)
The files I played around with http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ I downloaded the sty file and the files in the doc directory, then LaTeXed movie15.tex, and opened the created pdf with Acrobat 7. The last example in the pdf file is a rotatable cube, just click with the mouse on the image and start dragging. The TeX file uses a binary 3D data file dice.u3d, a text file with viewpoint coordinates (dice.vws), and a javascript setting light sources (dice.js). The other files in the doc directory are for other stuff in the package. Matthias On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Matthias Weber wrote: I can say that it does work, even on a Mac, I tried a LaTeX example. I don't know whether it works via a plug-in or is coded directly in Acrobat, I only know it works with Acrobat 7 without installing anything else. then it's probably in a format that has an associated plugin (on the os) can youn send me such a graphic? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] SciTE and TeXLive
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Hans Hagen wrote: Hooman Javidnia wrote: Hi, Are the SciTE configuration files on Windows only supposed to work with MikTeX or do they work with other implementations as well? Do I have to copy all language .properties files even though I am going to use only English? Do I have to modify any .properties files, if I want to load only cont-en-scite.properties? they should work with any tex, given that texmfstart and/or texexec are known Hans texexec is known, I know this because I can run it from command line. texmfstart is located in E:\TeXLive2005\texmf-dist\scripts\context\ruby but I am not sure if it is known to the system or not. How can I test this? Should I tweak any file or add to to PATH variable? ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context