Re: [NTG-context] Buffers (gone) in MK IV

2007-08-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

   \def\PDF{texmfstart --ifchanged=\lily!filename.eps pstopdf 
 \lily!filename.eps}
   \beginLUATEX
   \savebuffer[lilypond-\the\lily!figures]%
   \endLUATEX

\beginLUATEX is not to be used in a macro

\beginLUATEX message to screen
bla bla
\endLUATEX

then becomes

\beginLUATEX message to screen bla bla \endLUATEX

and all goes to the message

just do

\ifx\savebuffer\undefined \else \savebuffer[] \fi

or so

since when don't you read the source code any more -)

Hans
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[NTG-context] Bib module and dutch commands

2007-08-22 Thread Tristan Gerstung
Hello!

I have to say that I am new to ConteXt and never worked with LateX.
I tried to use the bib-module for my .bib-files (which I created with
BibDesk)
It works fine when I am using english commands like \starttext, but if I am
using dutch commands like \starttekst it just says `undefined control
sequence´.
Is there a possibilty to change that or do I have to stick with the english
commands when using the Bib module?

Thank you in advance.

Tristan



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Re: [NTG-context] No header text on last page

2007-08-22 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi!

On 8/22/07, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What am I doing wrong?
 I don't know, but file in attachment compiles well.
 Maybe something with components.
 --
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I fail to see the link between your file and mine?

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Re: [NTG-context] No header text on last page

2007-08-22 Thread luigi scarso
On 8/22/07, Jeff Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 On 8/22/07, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What am I doing wrong?
  I don't know, but file in attachment compiles well.
  Maybe something with components.
  --
  luigi

 I fail to see the link between your file and mine?
I simply merge
env_these.tex
with
chap1.tex
without using
 \startproduct test
\environment env_these

\startbodymatter
\component chap1
\stopbodymatter

\stopproduct


The result is almost the same, but in my pdf headings are good.
I don't know very well \component machinery,
are you sure that your file is correct ?

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[NTG-context] setting up quotations

2007-08-22 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

i have just finished reading the archives from the times
when there was no \setupquotation only \setupquote

i am glad that now a \setupquotation exists, but my problem
seems to be that \setupquotation affects all quotations...
consider the following example:


\setupquotation [style=italic]

\quote{I am \quotation{not} here,} he said, then he went on singing

\startquotation
Maybe I just want to fly\crlf
I want to live I don't want to die\crlf
Maybe I just want to breath\crlf
Maybe I just don't believe\crlf
Maybe you're the same as me\crlf
We see things they'll never see\crlf
You and I are gonna live forever\crlf
\stopquotation



all 3 quotations are in italics.  i think this is incorrect...
all 3 quoting styles have their place and function.

\startquotation should have some \blank before and after, different
margins, etc.  that's what i want to set up with \setupquotation
a lot of publisher make even typeset these in smaller fonts.

how can i make this happen?  this is really important for typesetting
books, it is not?

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Re: [NTG-context] setting up quotations

2007-08-22 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi f,

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:38:03 -0600, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 all 3 quotations are in italics.  i think this is incorrect...
 all 3 quoting styles have their place and function.

 \startquotation should have some \blank before and after, different
 margins, etc.  that's what i want to set up with \setupquotation
 a lot of publisher make even typeset these in smaller fonts.

 how can i make this happen?  this is really important for typesetting
 books, it is not?

Just roll your own! Here is what i use:

\definestartstop
   [quote]
   [before={\startnarrower[1*middle]\blank[big]},
 after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}]

This gives you the commands

\startquote-\stopquote

Just edit the definition to get the effect you want. And/or make new ones!

Note that ConTeXt by default is rather bland. The defaults are not  
intended as some typographic ideal, in contrast to LaTeX.

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] setting up quotations

2007-08-22 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 04:01:12PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid said that
 Note that ConTeXt by default is rather bland. The defaults are not  
 intended as some typographic ideal, in contrast to LaTeX.

thanks.  i realize that flexibility is a plus here, on the other hand
creating macros even for the most basic functionality becomes
counterproductive at some point.  

there are great basic building blocks in context.
some of them are just not as consistent as the others :)

i think consistency and 'logic' helps making the learning curve
softer and work easier and faster.

for example:

\quote  - \setupquote
\quotation  - \setupquotation
\startquotation - \setupquotationenvironment :)

or some such.

the problem is, that the manuals are not really verbose
and help create wrong assumptions because at some places
context is wonderfully 'logical' and consistent.

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[NTG-context] TeX-Gyre package?

2007-08-22 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear Hans and gang,

Has TeX-Gyre been released as part of MKIV yet? I was in the processing of  
updating my mswincontext distribution of 2007.08.07 and I noticed that  
cont-tmf does not contain the TeX-Gyre fonts.

The reason I don't want to install the fonts from the official TeX-Gyre  
site is because, before the release of MKIV, I installed them (with the  
ConTeXt support files on that site of course) and they did not all work  
:-( So I'd prefer to install them from a single ConTeXt package/zip so  
that we could all have easier installation (just unzip) as well as a  
common benchmark, especially if things go wrong ;-)

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] No header text on last page

2007-08-22 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi,

I merged the files too and, just as you said, they worked.

Toying around a bit with my files, I found out what's the problem, but
I can't understand it! It's in my product file:

\startproduct test
\environment env_these

\startbodymatter
   \component chap1
\stopbodymatter

\stopproduduct

The culprit is \startbodymatter ... \stopbodymatter. If I remove the
bodymatter command and compile, my header text appears on the last
page.

What's wrong, anyone?! I know that ConTeXt can compile at the product
level, but is it because I specify no project at all? I'm going to
investigate further in this direction.

Thanks!
Jeff
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Re: [NTG-context] No header text on last page

2007-08-22 Thread luigi scarso
On 8/23/07, Jeff Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I merged the files too and, just as you said, they worked.

 Toying around a bit with my files, I found out what's the problem, but
 I can't understand it! It's in my product file:

 \startproduct test
 \environment env_these

 \startbodymatter
\component chap1
 \stopbodymatter

 \stopproduduct

 The culprit is \startbodymatter ... \stopbodymatter. If I remove the
 bodymatter command and compile, my header text appears on the last
 page.

 What's wrong, anyone?! I know that ConTeXt can compile at the product
 level, but is it because I specify no project at all? I'm going to
 investigate further in this direction.

I don't know very well project/product/component
following
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Project_structure
these work ok.

%%% tprj.tex
\startproject tprj
\environment env_these
\product test
\stopproject

%%% test.tex
\startproduct test
\project tprj
\component chap1
\stopproduct

%%% chap1.tex
\startcomponent chap1
\project tprj
\product test
\Chapitre{Introduction générale}
\dorecurse{1}{\input tufte}
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte}
\Sujet{Pourquoi l'épistémologie?}
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
\Sujet{Linguistique et philosophie}
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte}
\dorecurse{6}{\input knuth}
\Aspect{Épistémologie et philosophie des sciences}
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
\Aspect{Histoire et philosophie des sciences}\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}
\stopcomponent



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Re: [NTG-context] Column enumerations start at zero

2007-08-22 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
  I recently observed that column enumerations start at zero instead of at
  one. Has anyone else seen this?

 Update, this is already fixed.

I'm not sure.  I can reproduce the problem with this test file:

  \starttext
  \startitemize[n]
  \item a
  \stopitemize
  \stoptext

I put it in e.tex and did (via AUCTeX) texexec --once e.tex and the
e.pdf numbers the items from 0 rather than from 1.  Without the
--once, it works fine.

This output is with the new Debian ConTeXt packages, which have
  ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.09 13:04 MKII  fmt: 2007.8.16

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Re: [NTG-context] Column enumerations start at zero

2007-08-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

 I recently observed that column enumerations start at zero instead of at
 one. Has anyone else seen this?

 Update, this is already fixed.

 I'm not sure.  I can reproduce the problem with this test file:

  \starttext
  \startitemize[n]
  \item a
  \stopitemize
  \stoptext

 I put it in e.tex and did (via AUCTeX) texexec --once e.tex and the
 e.pdf numbers the items from 0 rather than from 1.  Without the
 --once, it works fine.

This is because the way itemize works has changed. It stores the 
number of items in the tui file. The reason for this change is the new 
'reverse' key.

I think that the --once key does not read data from the temp files. 
Probably better will be something like --runs=1 (untested).

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Column enumerations start at zero

2007-08-22 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Aditya,

Thanks for the explanation.

 I think that the --once key does not read data from the temp files. 
 Probably better will be something like --runs=1 (untested).

Same problem when using --runs=1, but probably the reason is the same
as for --once not working.

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Re: [NTG-context] No header text on last page

2007-08-22 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi,

Your example works Luigi because it doesn't make use of
\startbodymatter ... \stopbodymatter. So, anyone, *where* are those
supposed to go?

Thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] start/stop and sections

2007-08-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hi,

 There is now an experimental:

 % options :
 % dodo: listtext

 \setupsectionworld
   [chapter]
   [before after setups page text number label bookmark]

 \startsectionworld[chapter][text={Test}]

 \stopsectionworld

 Later I will adapt sectioning to working with variables (low level
 issue) but this is what I needed now -)

Interesting. How do you come up with code like this :)

\def\csnameexpanded#1#2%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Bookmark does not seem to work correctly. Also can the extra 
grouping (using begingroup) in \startsectionworld be avoided?


\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter,section,subsection][chapter,section]

\def\test{Outside value}
\starttext

\startsectionworld[section][text={Test},bookmark={changed}]

\def\test{Inside value}
This is the first chapter

\stopsectionworld

The value of test is \test.
\stoptext


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Column enumerations start at zero

2007-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/8/23, Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Aditya,

 Thanks for the explanation.

  I think that the --once key does not read data from the temp files.
  Probably better will be something like --runs=1 (untested).

 Same problem when using --runs=1, but probably the reason is the same
 as for --once not working.

Hi Sanjoy,

as Aditya mentioned the counter for itemize is now saved in the tui file
and the correct value is read from the tuo file in the second.

The --once or --runs=1 option for texexec did not generate a tuo file and
the correct start value for itemize will be zero, but Hans corrected this in
one of the last releases and itemize did now start with 1 even with
the --once option.

Wolfgang
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