Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Will Robertson wrote: Sorry, I didn't know how you went about actually creating this package. The packages are created from the actual TeX Live release, or better from the security branch of the subversion repository, the tag 2007.1 or how it is called. It sounds like it would be easiest to stick with the official releases of TeXLive, despite the long-ish lag-time. Well yes and no. If the changes are not too invasive we can do it, but you remember what I said ... ;-) The problem is when lenny gets stable there will be *no* changes besides security changes. We will not have the chance to get fixes for stupid bugs that creeped in into lenny. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- LOW ARDWELL (n.) Seductive remark made hopefully in the back of a taxi. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On 17/04/2008, at 2:48 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: And we should at the same time update the necessary packages (is euenc and fontspec enough?) xltxtra has seen a couple of bug fixes too. That one -is- in the current repository. W smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On 17/04/2008, at 3:08 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: Honestly, I fear to open a pandora's box here. Bleah, I can see your concern. Sorry, I didn't know how you went about actually creating this package. It sounds like it would be easiest to stick with the official releases of TeXLive, despite the long-ish lag-time. W smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)
Hans Hagen wrote: Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slight tangent: Is there any support for using any of the OpenType math fonts (I know of Cambria Math, STIX, and Asana Math—this last on tug.org) in mkiv? cambria ... probably in the near future (as tex gyre will also have math and), since stix is type 1 and spread over many fonts, it will not be supported (that is: i will not make the typescripts for pdftex, but someoneelse may see it as a challenge) So will Stix be supported in mkiv or ConTeXt+XeTeX? quite probably not You can read that as: It depends on whether the released version of the Stix fonts will be packaged in a predictable manner. It should either follow the cambria math example (otf, for mkiv) or the cm/ams example (pfb, for mkii) to make it work in context. From the beta program so far, neither seems to be likely to happen, but we will have to wait and see (some more). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats
Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update luatex, texlua, texluac? How can I tell? The banners (first line of luatex --version, texlua --version, texluac --version) should all be the same and mention at least snapshot-0.25.2 Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On 17 Apr 2008, at 1:09 am, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote: On 16 Apr 2008, at 7:56 pm, Norbert Preining wrote: Given that there won't be TL2008 in lenny, I think it would be very desirable to update xetex to a more recent version than 0.996 as shipped with TL2007. (I don't know much about the context situation). ConTeXt would be happy to have the \supressfontnotfounderror fix available (which means: happy to have a binary version of XeTeX later than the one in TL 2007), OK, but for Debian it'll need to be provided as a source patch, we can't simply give them a binary. JK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats
Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update luatex, texlua, texluac? they all should be the same binary but with different names - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] announce of new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello I've commited new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows. http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-installer/ContextMinimalInstall.exe Added possibility to select between Beta and Stable (current) version + new rsync + internal changes. --- The question to Hans: why --force switch is now required for mtx-update script? And why it reloads all files, not synchronize them? --force is needed because i don't want to spoil my trees when i'm testing i dunno why it does not synchronize ... is there a status file? did you --update? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On 17 Apr 2008, at 7:23 am, Norbert Preining wrote: On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Will Robertson wrote: Sorry, I didn't know how you went about actually creating this package. The packages are created from the actual TeX Live release, or better from the security branch of the subversion repository, the tag 2007.1 or how it is called. There's a tag 2007.0, which matches the actual release DVD, and there's a branch2007 which has had a few bug fixes applied (mostly bugfixes in xetex, also apparently some security fixes in dviljk). What I suggest is that I review xetex bug-fixes since the 2007 release, and back-port the most important ones to branch2007 in TeX Live; we can also include the \suppressfontnotfounderror or whatever it's called, for the sake of the new context. But we won't try to include any of the major new features (like Graphite font support, or the new ICU version, etc), which would make for a massive patch. This would give you a xetex 0.996-patch2 in Lenny (what's in branch2007 is currently 0.996-patch1), should work for both context and non-context users, and should be non-invasive as far as the rest of TL is concerned. If I do this, and create a tag 2007.1 in TL with the updated branch2007 version, are you able to use this as the base for your package? I presume you don't use the actual binaries from TL Master/ bin anyway, so what matters is what we have in the source tree. JK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Hi all, Preface most of the discussions in the last weeks on the list concerned LuaTeX and MkIV with the topic fonts, xml and bugs, currently not implemented functions and bug and in the last few days also mplib. I will try start with this mail a hopefully interesting discuassions wuth many people about the current state to use ConTeXt for correspondence in personal and business live. Introduction Although ConTeXt has many features and can be used for nearly every type of document with many features to adapt the layout to ones personal requirements we have still a few places where something is missing or force us to use another tool. I will focus myself for the moment on the missing support for a real module to write letter and other correspondence. The Past and the present A few modules had been written in the past to write letter but wether they are not available like Hans own module or it is to complicated to use. Hans own module m-letter.tex was never included in the main distribution and the documentation [1] was never finished but it is now possible to find a older version in the list archives. The strong point on the module are the possibility to change the size and position of the address and reference fields but it was nearly impossible to add extra information like values for sender or to make big changes in the layout. The second option to write a letter was and is Holger Schöners letterstyle environment [2], he provided a layout for german letters with a DIN style and macros to store address and sender information. What looked like a good solution to me at first glance had also many disadvatages, the names for the fields in the refrence line used hard to memorize name like \lettersenderkey... and no high level interface to set them. Another point to me which prevented me from using the style was the hard way to change the layout, the environment provided commands to change the values but all was done with simple definition and no setup command. A few user write their own simple setups and environemnts to write letter [2,3] but none of them was really confugrable or provided a real interface. The future The lack of any good soution for this topic forced me to write my own letter module for ConTeXt. I started myself with Hans letter module and added a extra field to add my own address but this was at a time where I was still new to ConTeXt and most of the content in m-letter.tex where confusing to me and I had problem to adapt the layout to my own requirements. After I gained a little bit more knowledge in TeX and ConTeXt is started to write a new module from scratch with the option to load style files and set the information for the address and all other information with a better interface. After nearly one and a helf years and 2 major revisions I have nearly finished my module and would will make it now available also to other users. But before I make my last stable version online I want to discuss a few points with interested users. The discussion Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). After this interesting question for me I will now make a few information about my module available. The module use by default the definition for german business letters as layout where the position for the address block and the reference line are defined. To change the layout for your own letter I provide the option to change the default settings with the one for all command \setupletterstyle, you could use it to set the page layout, the position for the different blocks for address and sender information and also for the bodyfontsize and parskip and parindent. To use once defined for many letter you could save them in so called letterstyle files which can be loaded either with the module \usemodule[letter][style=...] or within the letter with the command \useletterstyle[...]. The lettertext is written between the \startletter ... \stopletter environment and it is possible to write in adcouemnt as many letters as you want, you could write serial letters and use the correspodence modul to save the address information in a XMl file. The values for letter are set with the \setupletter command but this is one of the still open points, the current implemtation requires sometimes to many lines for just a few information and I plan to replace it with a simpler system. Take the following minimal example \usemodule[letter] \setupletter [sender] [name={Mike Meiers}, address={Mustergasse 12\\25694 Musterstadt}] \setupletter [address] [name={Hans Hansen}, address={Zielweg 34\\78561 Tiny Town}] \starttext \startletter [opening={Dear Hans,}] letter text \stopletter \stoptext As you can see the opening for the letter is set as optional argument for \startletter because it is
[NTG-context] announce of new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows
Hello I've commited new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows. http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-installer/ContextMinimalInstall.exe Added possibility to select between Beta and Stable (current) version + new rsync + internal changes. --- The question to Hans: why --force switch is now required for mtx-update script? And why it reloads all files, not synchronize them? -- Best regards Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] t-bib and interactivity for url= and doi=
Tobias Burnus wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: I can fix that pretty easily, but a small real-life testfile will be helpful, also for the DOI problem. See attached TeX file. Here is it again. Any idea? (Sorry for the length, but \setuppublicationlayout and \startpublication make it a bit lengthy.) See typset text in the TeX file (very bottom of this mail) about how the issues; I verified with ConTeXt Live (pdfeTeX and LuaTeX) that it is not a local problem. Thanks, Tobias % \usemodule[bib] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupurl[style=,urlspace=yes] \chardef\urlhyphenmethod=1 % Hyphenate very agressively (=1), use =0 for default \setuppublications[alternative=aps,interaction=start] \setuppublications[numbering=yes,refcommand=num] \setuppublicationlist[ width=3in, authoretallimit=40, editoretallimit=40, artauthoretallimit=40, interaction=start] \unprotect \setuppublicationlayout[article]{% \insertartauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{ }{}}% \insertarttitle {\unskip, \bgroup\it }% {\/\egroup }{}% \insertjournal{\unskip, \bgroup }{\egroup} {}% \insertcrossref{In }{}{}}% \insertvolume { \bgroup \bf } {\egroup %\insertissue{(}{)}{}% \insertfirstpage{, }{}{}} {\insertfirstpage{ }{}{}}% \insertpubyear{ (}{). }{\unskip.}% \insertdoi{ DOI: }{.}{}% \insertbiburl{ }{.}{}% \insertNote{ }{.}{}% \insertcomment{}{.}{}% } \protect \startpublication[k=Almbladh1985,t=article, a={{Almbladh},{von Barth}},y=1985,o={10.1103/PhysRevB.31.3231}, n=21,s=AvB85] \artauthor[]{C.-O.}[C.-O.]{}{Almbladh} \artauthor[]{U.}[U.]{von}{Barth} \pubyear{1985} \arttitle{Exact results for the charge and spin densities, exchange-correlation potentials, and density-functional eigenvalues} \journal{Physical Review B} \volume{31} \issue{6} \pages{3231-3244} \doi{10.1103/PhysRevB.31.3231} \stoppublication \starttext Let's cite it \cite[Almbladh1985]. The following should write \quote{DOI:10.1103/PhysRevB.31.3231}, but it is prefixed by \quote{http://dx.doi.org/}: \cite[alternative=doi,left={DOI:},right=][Almbladh1985] But my actual problem is \dots \subsection{References} \dots that the following DOI link does not work: \placepublications[criterium=chapter] \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] t-bib and interactivity for url= and doi=
Tobias Burnus wrote: Tobias Burnus wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: I can fix that pretty easily, but a small real-life testfile will be helpful, also for the DOI problem. See attached TeX file. Here is it again. Any idea? (Sorry for the length, but \setuppublicationlayout and \startpublication make it a bit lengthy.) Problem moved to my shortlist (and yes, that is fairly short, just a few days worth of work). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pb with ConTeXt ver: 2008.04.16 17:34 and mkiv
Problem solved as mysteriously as it appeared, after updating anew ConTeXt… Thanks for your attention: OK On 17 avr. 08, at 01:15, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: For your information, I am running this on MacBook Pro Intel running MacOS X 10.5.2, and I follow Thomas Schmitz' indications to install LuaTeX. Thomas - you should be happy not to attend the conference, else you would probably be punished there for all the problems that Mac users experience with LuaTeX recently :) Mojca PS: do not be taken seriously, of course :) (I gave up the idea of enabling luatex system-wide already after some unsuccessful tries last year.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Jonathan Kew wrote: If I do this, and create a tag 2007.1 in TL with the updated branch2007 version, are you able to use this as the base for your Of course, that would be great. And if you want to be nice to me, too, send me a simple diff (svn diff output) of what you did and I am settled. package? I presume you don't use the actual binaries from TL Master/ No, of course not. bin anyway, so what matters is what we have in the source tree. Right. Big thanks a lot. That leaves the changes to euenc, fontspec, xltx..., ??? TO do or not to? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CHIPPING ONGAR (n.) The disgust and embarrassment (or 'ongar') felt by an observer in the presence of a person festooned with kirbies (q.v.) when they don't know them well enough to tell them to wipe them off, invariably this 'ongar' is accompanied by an involuntary staccato twitching of the leg (or 'chipping') --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adding custom key/value pairs
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Can't the abstract just placed after the text has been set with \start/\stopabstract. Better not, because placement and spacing around and between and relative ordering of abstracts and keywords are often bound to very specific rules. Rules you don't want to burden users with, like if there is an english abstract, it should come before the german abstract. If there are freestyle keywords on top of the required classifications, they should follow the abstracts with a space above of 12pt and below of 12ot, otherwise there should be space below the classifications of 24pt, unless a motto (see below) is also given. You get the idea? Journal editors can be evil bastards sometimes Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adding custom key/value pairs
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Why not, I have nothing against a few predefined title pages layouts. Somewhat related: it would be nice if there was some common code for titles (books as well as articles). [snip] Anyway, the maps module contains all the code to do everything. And the same is true for the TUG module. And for quite a few others I have laying around. Lots of duplicate code all over, so a common framework would be great. I've been meaning to write one for a long time, but somehow I never quite get around to actually doing it. Just saying this to let you know that I would really welcome a module with commands like \setuptitle, \definetitle, and \placetitle. I agree with that. It will be really nice to have a module that does a few simple titles (alternate=(a|b|c), etc.) For one of my personal modules, I was following something along the lines of the maps module. But I find Wolfgang's solution on the wiki to be more ConTeXtish than what all other modules use. Hi Aditya, could you use a few lines what do you expect from a placetitle/placetitlepage command or a titlepage environment. Some of the things that I use \placetitle for: * Writing academic papers. Currenly, I have a macro that I use like this: \article [title ={...}, author={...}, publication={...},% This just goes to pdf subtitle date={...}, bottom={...}, %text placed at page bottom, %usually current revision number thanks={...}, %placed on the footer of the first page ] \startabstract ... \stopabstract \startkeywords \stopkeywords The abstract environment places a head (Abstract) followed by its content. The formatting depends on whether it is a journal article, or a conference article. keyword also places a head followed by its content. Currently, what I have is that \article places all its contents, and so do abstract and keyword. So, I do not have to store anything. * TUGBoat articles: This uses a style file originally by Hans, which I have modified considerably, but still uses the same interface. This uses \setvariables [tugboat] [title={...}, author={...}, address={...}, email={...}, year={...}, volume={..}, number={...}, page={...}] The title and the author go to the document title. The address and email go at the end of the article. The year, volume, number, and page go to the header and footer of the article. The rest of the article is somethng like \starttext \startArticle \startAbstract \stopAbstract ... \stopArticle \stoptext This structure is the reason I think something like \setuptitle (or \setupdocumenttitle) is needed. * Practex journal, which uses http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/Pracjourn * My Ways which use http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/MyWay * and finally Maps which use http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules/Maps Notice that almost all of them so similar things, but in slightly different manner. What I wish for is a common interface, and I really like your idea of \setuptitle. In fact, I think that something like that should be part of the core. I module should be enogh for the start, makes it easier to test without the need to create a new relase or replace one of the core files and to generate a new format file. The module does not need to take care of all the formatting requirements: just provide the interface. For a particular publications, the module for that publication can modify the \placetitle command to do what they want. With this, the user documentation can just say that use \setuptitle[title=...,author=..., date=] %and maybe setups={...} So, we will have a consistent user inteferface for all documents. What should we do with the abstract, did it depend on the document title ... In general, the formatting of the abstract will depend on the kind of the document. Just need something like \definetitlesubstructure% or something more appropriate [abstract] [headtext={Abstract}, headstyle=bold, headcolor=blue, headalign=middle, inbetween=\blank,%between the head and the body style=small, %for the contents color=black, %for the contents ] I would replace headetext with \setuphead[abstract] and the format for the table of content (is this what do you mean with for the content) with \setuplist but should abstract use a own command to place the title \definehead[abstract] or can we use one of the predefined ones (title -- new page or subject -- if you need a abstract in different languages on one page). This should
[NTG-context] Strange problem with metapost graphics
Hi all, Here is minimal example of some trouble I have: ... \startMPinclusions numeric u; u=1cm; \stopMPinclusions \starttext \startuseMPgraphic{dummy} drawarrow (0,0)..(8u,0); label.bot(\sometxt{temps}, (7u,-.5u)); \stopuseMPgraphic \placefigure[fig:Uncontratdanslaflèchedutemps]{Un contrat dans la flèche du temps}{\useMPgraphic{dummy}} \startuseMPgraphic{ummy} pair A[]; A[0]:=(-1u, -1u); A[1]:=( 6u, -1u); A[2]:=( 6u, 4u); A[3]:=(-1u, 4u); draw A[0]--A[1]--A[2]--A[3]--cycle withpen pencircle scaled 1pt; label.bot(\sometxt{Dupont}, A[0]); label.top(\sometxt{Smith}, A[2]); \stopuseMPgraphic \placefigure[fig:Boîte d'Edgeworth]{Boîte d'Edgeworth}{\useMPgraphic{ummy}} \stoptext . The trouble is that this compiles nicely with pdftex, a little less nicely with xetex, and badly with luatex, tested at home and on context live. - xetex: the label in the first graphic appears with bad size. - luatex: first label in the second graphic appears with bad size and font, and second label disappears; but if I comment out the label in the first graphic, the second graphic is as expected. Any idea? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange problem with metapost graphics
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: - luatex: first label in the second graphic appears with bad size and font, and second label disappears; but if I comment out the label in the first graphic, the second graphic is as expected. Any idea? A much smaller luatex test is possible: \startuseMPgraphic{a} label.bot(textext(a), origin); \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{a} \startuseMPgraphic{b} label.bot(textext(b), origin); \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{b} There is some problem with the textext array indices, it seems: report error: (0,0,_tt_w_2,0,0,1) ! Transform components aren't all known. to be read again yscaled argument ...square.xscaled._tt_w_[_tt_n_]yscaled (_tt_h_[_tt_n_]+_tt_d_[_tt... image-...ture;currentpicture:=nullpicture;(TEXT2) ;currentpicture.endgroup textext-...ipttswithpostscript.decimal._tt_n_;) fi.endgroup * ...; ;randomseed:=1403; label.bot(textext(b) , origin); ; ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange problem with metapost graphics
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hi all, Here is minimal example of some trouble I have: ... \startMPinclusions numeric u; u=1cm; \stopMPinclusions \starttext \startuseMPgraphic{dummy} drawarrow (0,0)..(8u,0); label.bot(\sometxt{temps}, (7u,-.5u)); \stopuseMPgraphic \placefigure[fig:Uncontratdanslaflèchedutemps]{Un contrat dans la flèche du temps}{\useMPgraphic{dummy}} \startuseMPgraphic{ummy} pair A[]; A[0]:=(-1u, -1u); A[1]:=( 6u, -1u); A[2]:=( 6u, 4u); A[3]:=(-1u, 4u); draw A[0]--A[1]--A[2]--A[3]--cycle withpen pencircle scaled 1pt; label.bot(\sometxt{Dupont}, A[0]); label.top(\sometxt{Smith}, A[2]); \stopuseMPgraphic \placefigure[fig:Boîte d'Edgeworth]{Boîte d'Edgeworth}{\useMPgraphic{ummy}} \stoptext . The trouble is that this compiles nicely with pdftex, a little less nicely with xetex, and badly with luatex, tested at home and on context live. - xetex: the label in the first graphic appears with bad size. - luatex: first label in the second graphic appears with bad size and font, and second label disappears; but if I comment out the label in the first graphic, the second graphic is as expected. Any idea? at the end of mp-mlib.mp add def resettextexts = _tt_n_ := 0 ; enddef ; extra_endfig := extra_endfigresettextexts ; ; then run ctxtools --touch context --make (or texexec --make --luatex) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
This may be a surprise, but I use only oowriter/oocalc currently. Why? Traitor ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] announce of new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: And why it reloads all files, not synchronize them? Maybe that has happend only after you have upgraded rsync. Does in still reload everything if you try it for the second time? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:18:49 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has not been an update to mswincontext.zip since last August... Are there any plans to update this? For years now mswincontext.zip has been my one and only TeX distribution. With the new TeX-Gyre and Latin Modern fonts, as well as the rest of our developments, I think the time is way overdue for a new release. And it is safer to install a fresh distribution than to muck around with replacing the fonts etc. i could update it ... Please do! but i was wondering if i still should supply it now that we have a new minimals system ... Well, mswincontext is rather maximal, not minimal :-) ok, we need to add scite to and docs tree, and... Thanks and Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The discussion Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). This may be a surprise, but I use only oowriter/oocalc currently. Why? * I have many different envelopes to cater for, with and without address windows. This is why I seperate content and layout, the input for the data and text is always the same but layout and fields/information depend on the output. * I sometimes need DIN letters, but sometimes just an informal note to accompany an item Nothing can be more formal than a german letter in DIN style, lots of rules with fixed values from the typewriter and many exceptions. * Quite a bit of correspondence is invoices and quotes, with automatic calculations in them (VAT etc). I already played with a few basic styles but this should go into a seperate module and should be a MkIV only thing to get correct values in the output, although MkII is possible but I won't trust the results. Most of this can be done in tex/luatex of course, but it is a lot of effort compared to hitting enter a few extra times in oowriter. Now, if there was a great letter module for context ;-) Hans provides a Example interface for his own interface but I never got it working for myself but a simple user interface would be nice. Ideas for the input are welcome, it is completely independant from the backend and I could also offer the original interface from Donal Knuth. Before I release I first public bety version of the modul I want to hear which interface to set the letter information do you prefer and do you have things do want in the module. I definately would like an easy way to switch envelope formats, and automatic page 1 of ... would be nice too. As I told, saw what you want and I could write a letter style. The total number of page can be set with subpagenumber and I tried hard to get it working with MkII and MKIV and spend a few hours to find the last remaining bugs. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip
ok, we need to add scite to and docs tree, and... and ruby, perl, unzip, xml tools. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
The discussion Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). This may be a surprise, but I use only oowriter/oocalc currently. Why? * I have many different envelopes to cater for, with and without address windows. * I sometimes need DIN letters, but sometimes just an informal note to accompany an item * Quite a bit of correspondence is invoices and quotes, with automatic calculations in them (VAT etc). Most of this can be done in tex/luatex of course, but it is a lot of effort compared to hitting enter a few extra times in oowriter. Now, if there was a great letter module for context ;-) Happy to read that I'm not the only one ! But with a « great letter module » (with french positions, of course :))… Show me a few example or give me values for the positions (address block, opening, line distance etc.) I can only provide solutions if you give me information. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Happy to read that I'm not the only one ! But with a « great letter module » (with french positions, of course :))… Show me a few example or give me values for the positions (address block, opening, line distance etc.) I can only provide solutions if you give me information. Of course. I must find them… maybe the french association of TeX user. What do you think about a wiki page about this in order to put all the specifications ? Cheers, Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The discussion Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). This may be a surprise, but I use only oowriter/oocalc currently. Why? * I have many different envelopes to cater for, with and without address windows. * I sometimes need DIN letters, but sometimes just an informal note to accompany an item * Quite a bit of correspondence is invoices and quotes, with automatic calculations in them (VAT etc). Most of this can be done in tex/luatex of course, but it is a lot of effort compared to hitting enter a few extra times in oowriter. Now, if there was a great letter module for context ;-) Happy to read that I'm not the only one ! But with a « great letter module » (with french positions, of course :))… Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot module
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:24 PM, John Devereux wrote: Mojca Miklavec writes: I really like gnuplot and the gnuplot module. It is great to be able to include the data inline with the document. And it would be nice to see it part of the distribution. I am using a stock debian gnuplot, so I don't know the implications of the context and TikZ terminals. No major difference. But it would (should, at least) be compatible with all the three: LaTeX/plain/ConTeXt. Does it mean I would not end up with so many *-gnuplot-* files? :) When I have developed the terminal with enormous Hans's and Taco's help, I have asked him to implement some functionality to delete the files with ctxtools --purge. He has implemented some functionality (\registertempfile or something - need to check), but it deletes the files automatically at the end of run, so one either needs to: - delete the files - leave the files - no option to delete files with ctxtools The problem with deleting the files immediately is that if you make a trivial mistake in the gnuplot script, gnuplot won't create any output, and it's rather difficult to spot the error in the long bunch of ConTeXt messages. You just get no graphic, any you wonder why. Do you have any suggestions about how to reduce the number of files in some sensible way? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Hi Wolfgang, On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:13:54 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take the following minimal example \usemodule[letter] \setupletter [sender] [name={Mike Meiers}, address={Mustergasse 12\\25694 Musterstadt}] \setupletter [address] [name={Hans Hansen}, address={Zielweg 34\\78561 Tiny Town}] \starttext \startletter [opening={Dear Hans,}] letter text \stopletter \stoptext You need a closing (Sincerely,) and signature, and don't forget enough topspace to accommodate a company logo/letterhead :-) FWIW: Here is the basic structure of my setup (based on someone else's work, I forget his name): = \protect %\setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuppapersize[letter][letter] \setuplayout[header=.5in, topspace=1.37in, backspace=1.5in, footer=0mm, %header=0in, %,width=middle, width=middle, lines=60, height=middle] % margins etc. \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \long\def\addresser#1{\leavevmode\blank[1*line] \lbox{#1}} % Defines field for receiver's address and places it at right position. \long\def\addressee#1{\rbox{#1}} % Subject line, in bold face. \long\def\lettersubject#1{\blank[2*line]{\BF %Re: #1}} \long\def\letteropening#1{\blank[line]#1} % opening... \definestartstop [letter] [before={\blank[line]\setupwhitespace[medium]}, after={}] \long\def\letterclosing#1#2{\vbox{\blank[line]#1\blank[3*line]#2}} % and the closing formula \unprotect = Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Am 2008-04-17 um 10:13 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). I normally use InDesign for my business letters and invoices. But I coded my last job applications completely in ConTeXt and adapted Holger Schöner's environment for my needs. I remember it was not that easy to get my address and logo exactly in the same places as in my InDesign template - I use sheets with some pre-printed elements. Another problem were different letter heads for first, odd and even pages. (It would have been *much* easier to use InDesign for that stuff, like for most other designs that I do...) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Olivier Guéry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy to read that I'm not the only one ! But with a « great letter module » (with french positions, of course :))… Show me a few example or give me values for the positions (address block, opening, line distance etc.) I can only provide solutions if you give me information. Of course. I must find them… maybe the french association of TeX user. What do you think about a wiki page about this in order to put all the specifications ? I don't care, you could also send me a picture with boxes and the values but I created now a page on the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/letter where you can collcet your information. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-04-17 um 10:13 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). I normally use InDesign for my business letters and invoices. Dou you use a template for your letters. LaTeX has two packages to create invoices and we could also have one for ConTeXt but it makes only sense to use it with LuaTeX, TeX's arithmetic to limited for longer calculations. But I coded my last job applications completely in ConTeXt and adapted Holger Schöner's environment for my needs. I remember it was not that easy to get my address and logo exactly in the same places as in my InDesign template - I use sheets with some pre-printed elements. Another problem were different letter heads for first, odd and even pages. Different header for the first and another one for the following headers is simple and possible with my module. The option to change the layout for odd and even pages is currently not supported but should be possible but it has to be integrated in the normal interface. (It would have been *much* easier to use InDesign for that stuff, like for most other designs that I do...) This is also possible with ConTeXt because you could setup layers to place content dependent on left and right pages and the page layout could also change for left and right pages as long as you don't change the text width. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot module
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:27 PM, John Devereux wrote: Mojca Miklavec writes: Do you have any suggestions about how to reduce the number of files in some sensible way? The ideal would be an option when processing the source file, to turn off file deletion. Like texexec document.tex --keep-temporaries So by default the source directory would be kept clean, but when debugging the intermediate files would be available. Or perhaps some option passed to \startGNUPLOTscript (or \useGNUPLOTgraphic) if that is possible? \startGNUPLOTscript[example][keeptemporaryfile=yes] This sounds fine (having a --debug-like option), but one more question - what about caching existing results? (If all files are deleted, then it's not possible to ask for --ifchanged, so gnuplot needs to be run each time.) That might be better otherwise debugging a big document could result it hundreds of files. Another possibility would be to put the files in /tmp. That's not too practical. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:13:54 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take the following minimal example \usemodule[letter] \setupletter [sender] [name={Mike Meiers}, address={Mustergasse 12\\25694 Musterstadt}] \setupletter [address] [name={Hans Hansen}, address={Zielweg 34\\78561 Tiny Town}] \starttext \startletter [opening={Dear Hans,}] letter text \stopletter \stoptext You need a closing (Sincerely,) and signature, and don't forget enough topspace to accommodate a company logo/letterhead :-) You set closing and signature also with the optional argument for \startletter \startletter [opening=Dear Idris\textcomma, closing=Sincerely\textcomma, signature=Wolfgang Schuster] You could define your own letterhead but by default I use just name and address from the sender. FWIW: Here is the basic structure of my setup (based on someone else's work, I forget his name): = \protect %\setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuppapersize[letter][letter] \setuplayout[header=.5in, topspace=1.37in, backspace=1.5in, footer=0mm, %header=0in, %,width=middle, width=middle, lines=60, height=middle] % margins etc. \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \long\def\addresser#1{\leavevmode\blank[1*line] \lbox{#1}} % Defines field for receiver's address and places it at right position. \long\def\addressee#1{\rbox{#1}} % Subject line, in bold face. \long\def\lettersubject#1{\blank[2*line]{\BF %Re: #1}} \long\def\letteropening#1{\blank[line]#1} % opening... \definestartstop [letter] [before={\blank[line]\setupwhitespace[medium]}, after={}] \long\def\letterclosing#1#2{\vbox{\blank[line]#1\blank[3*line]#2}} % and the closing formula \unprotect Simple but working solution but a formal german requires a little bit more work because most of the field use fixed positions whereas blocks styles are written from top to bottom and each field use only as much space as the text needs. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot module
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:27 PM, John Devereux wrote: Mojca Miklavec writes: Do you have any suggestions about how to reduce the number of files in some sensible way? The ideal would be an option when processing the source file, to turn off file deletion. Like texexec document.tex --keep-temporaries So by default the source directory would be kept clean, but when debugging the intermediate files would be available. Or perhaps some option passed to \startGNUPLOTscript (or \useGNUPLOTgraphic) if that is possible? \startGNUPLOTscript[example][keeptemporaryfile=yes] This sounds fine (having a --debug-like option), but one more question - what about caching existing results? (If all files are deleted, then it's not possible to ask for --ifchanged, so gnuplot needs to be run each time.) Actually the configurable temp dir would be OK too. texexec document.tex --tempdir=./temporaries Regarding cacheing, this would be nice but I don't know if it can be done. I think you still need to run gnuplot in case the data has changed. That might be better otherwise debugging a big document could result it hundreds of files. Another possibility would be to put the files in /tmp. That's not too practical. -- John Devereux ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Am 2008-04-17 um 16:32 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I normally use InDesign for my business letters and invoices. Dou you use a template for your letters. Not an InDesign template file (.idt), but a single document (with master pages) for every purpose (German/Swiss/English, letter/ invoice, private/business) that I overwrite every time. (I save a copy if the matter is important.) LaTeX has two packages to create invoices and we could also have one for ConTeXt but it makes only sense to use it with LuaTeX, TeX's arithmetic to limited for longer calculations. For other purposes I simply write my TeX code with a script, mostly only one file that contains the dynamical data and gets included. E.g. - cover for backup CD/DVDs (that script even has a GUI - it reads a disk; shows the directory tree, so you can select which parts you'd like to be visible; writes a TeX file; calls ConTeXt and opens the PDF) - my address book (pulls and formats data from a MySQL database) - business cards for one big company (I receive an Excel file with personnel data, save it as CSV and convert that to ConTeXt, PDF with one page per person gets imposed and printed on cardboard with pre-printed logo) Another problem were different letter heads for first, odd and even pages. Different header for the first and another one for the following headers is simple and possible with my module. The option to change the layout for odd and even pages is currently not supported but should be possible but it has to be integrated in the normal interface. My sheets have a pre-printed logo, I use the same for all pages of a letter. On the first page I need address and bank data. On even pages (back side) there's no logo, so I don't need the big top border. Normally I leave out the first even page, e.g. my job application starts with an one-side letter, the following data (CV, references etc.) uses front and back page. The application had the additional difficulty that there's the photo on the CV page, and I wanted the title in white *on* the photo... At least in the online PDF - I used modes to produce both printed version (without logo, because that's pre-printed on my sheets) and email version (with logo) (It would have been *much* easier to use InDesign for that stuff, like for most other designs that I do...) This is also possible with ConTeXt because you could setup layers to place content dependent on left and right pages and the page layout could also change for left and right pages as long as you don't change the text width. I used layers and setups, but I had difficulties switching them on and off. And what not - can't remember everything. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Windows tools in XeTeX - what do they do?
Hello, There are some new executables in w32tex's XeTeX. sfconv.exe teckit_compile.exe txtconv.exe What are they used for (I have no windows computer here to try)? So far, I only kept extracting the following files: fc-cache.exe fc-list.exe icudt38.dll kpathsea35671.dll msvcp71.dll msvcr71.dll xdvipdfmx.exe xetex.dll xetex.exe and wonder whether the other files are needed too or not. Thanks, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Windows tools in XeTeX - what do they do?
Sorry, wrong mailing list ... Mojca On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There are some new executables in w32tex's XeTeX. sfconv.exe teckit_compile.exe txtconv.exe What are they used for (I have no windows computer here to try)? So far, I only kept extracting the following files: fc-cache.exe fc-list.exe icudt38.dll kpathsea35671.dll msvcp71.dll msvcr71.dll xdvipdfmx.exe xetex.dll xetex.exe and wonder whether the other files are needed too or not. Thanks, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Windows tools in XeTeX - what do they do?
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello, There are some new executables in w32tex's XeTeX. sfconv.exe teckit_compile.exe txtconv.exe What are they used for (I have no windows computer here to try)? just wait till something fails ... the less binaries the better - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Bug with typing in mkiv
Hi Hans, In MKIV, \starttyping ignores the block if it starts with a blank line. For example, \starttext blah blah blah \starttyping Can you see me \stoptyping \stoptext Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug with typing in mkiv
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi Hans, In MKIV, \starttyping ignores the block if it starts with a blank line. For example, Another bug (not sure if it is a bug, just something that is different from mkii). In mkiv, starttyping block gets indented; mkii used to ignore indentation. For example, compare mkii and mkiv output: \setupindenting[5cm,yes] \starttext blah blah blah \starttyping blah blah blah blah \stoptyping \stoptext Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip
and ruby, perl, unzip, xml tools. It's not public yet, but I have prepared ruby, perl scite. If you can send me exact urls and instructions, I will add xml tools as well. gswin is on the stack (didn't touch it yet). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Strange problem with metapost graphics
Le 17 avril à 13:17:44 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: | Hi all, | Here is minimal example of some trouble I have: | | ... | \startMPinclusions | numeric u; u=1cm; | \stopMPinclusions | \starttext | \startuseMPgraphic{dummy} | drawarrow (0,0)..(8u,0); | label.bot(\sometxt{temps}, (7u,-.5u)); | \stopuseMPgraphic | \placefigure[fig:Uncontratdanslaflèchedutemps]{Un contrat dans la flèche du temps}{\useMPgraphic{dummy}} | | | \startuseMPgraphic{ummy} |pair A[]; |A[0]:=(-1u, -1u); |A[1]:=( 6u, -1u); |A[2]:=( 6u, 4u); |A[3]:=(-1u, 4u); |draw A[0]--A[1]--A[2]--A[3]--cycle withpen pencircle scaled 1pt; | label.bot(\sometxt{Dupont}, A[0]); | label.top(\sometxt{Smith}, A[2]); | \stopuseMPgraphic | \placefigure[fig:Boîte d'Edgeworth]{Boîte d'Edgeworth}{\useMPgraphic{ummy}} | \stoptext | . | | The trouble is that this compiles nicely with pdftex, a little less nicely | with xetex, and badly with luatex, tested at home and on context live. | | - xetex: the label in the first graphic appears with bad size. | | - luatex: first label in the second graphic appears with bad size and font, | and second label disappears; but if I comment out the label in the first | graphic, the second graphic is as expected. | | Any idea? | at the end of mp-mlib.mp add | def resettextexts = | _tt_n_ := 0 ; | enddef ; | extra_endfig := extra_endfigresettextexts ; ; | then run | ctxtools --touch | context --make (or texexec --make --luatex) Done! But same result :-( -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip
Mojca Miklavec wrote: and ruby, perl, unzip, xml tools. It's not public yet, but I have prepared ruby, perl scite. If you can send me exact urls and instructions, I will add xml tools as well. gswin is on the stack (didn't touch it yet). http://xmlsoft.org/XSLT/xsltproc2.html - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] announce of new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've commited new version of Context Minimals Installer for Windows. http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-installer/ContextMinimalInstall.exe Could you please update the online source as well? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases
Dear all, I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my research group, and I'm looking at software like refbase http:// refbase.sourceforge.net/ or refdb http://refdb.sourceforge.net/ to replace the somewhat random collection of personal BibTeX .bib files we have. Does anyone have any experience or advice to offer in using such things, and hooking them up to ConTeXt? Most of these systems will of course emit a .bib file which will obviously work, but will any emit the .bbl so I can forget about BibTeX? Will luatex one day connect to a bib database and fetch the details of a cited reference? Is there a ConTeXt approved way forward for this sort of thing? Thanks in advance, Robin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases
Hello Robin, hello list, * Robin Kirkham wrote on Apr/18/2008: I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my research group, and I'm looking at software like refbase http://refbase.sourceforge.net/ or refdb http://refdb.sourceforge.net/ to replace the somewhat random collection of personal BibTeX .bib files we have. Does anyone have any experience or advice to offer in using such things, and hooking them up to ConTeXt? Most of these systems will of course emit a .bib file which will obviously work, but will any emit the .bbl so I can forget about BibTeX? Will luatex one day connect to a bib database and fetch the details of a cited reference? Is there a ConTeXt approved way forward for this sort of thing? Not that I am able to help you very much further, but I am right now in a similar situation. I am in the process of setting up a db with wikindx http://wikindx.sf.net/ The main developer is obviously not working with any TeX flavour, but there is some Bibtex im-/export (which also concerns only .bib files) that I am ATM fiddling with, but I thought I might add that one to the list of databases you mentioned. Cheers, Andreas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
Wolfgang == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wolfgang LaTeX has two packages to create invoices and we could also Wolfgang have one for ConTeXt but it makes only sense to use it with Wolfgang LuaTeX, TeX's arithmetic to limited for longer calculations. Let me just say that I'd found a use for invoices and letters in ConTeXt with LuaTeX... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgp3CzIGx6HiK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Roll-Your-Own Stand-Alone (Was re. ConTeXt ultraminimals)
I'm working on ConTeXt+SciTE-on-a-USB-Stick. A downloadable program is still far off, as is a version that can be put on PortableApps.com, but I've gotten to the point of mapping out the basic parameters: • We need to have a start-up program, which will set up the environment and start SciTE and/or a command prompt. • Legacy-free is nice, but if ConTeXt+XeTeX (which I'll call mkiii whether that's an official name or no) requires texexec then we need to include Ruby anyway, so we may as well keep PDFTeX (mkii), BUT: • Since my Windows machine already has Perl, Python, Ruby, I'm going to defer working on that last point. • In fact, I'm going to defer including SciTE also, until I have a working stand-alone ConTeXt… I've put my rsync invocations on the wiki. (Since the calls are so closely tied to the directory structure of the Minimals, I added them to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals/Structure as an example of how to use customize them, but I'll move it if folks think it belongs elsewhere.) Also, the commands I'm using to generate my formats are on that page. Could someone please check them for sanity? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: After nearly one and a helf years and 2 major revisions I have nearly finished my module and would will make it now available also to other users. But before I make my last stable version online I want to discuss a few points with interested users. Hello Wolfgang, Already in advance: thank you very much! With such a module, I can finally forget really all about LaTeX. Sometimes I still use scrlttr2.cls and at these moments I swear to write a letter module one day. Now I know, that I won't need to do this difficult (for me) task. Before I start to give you information about my module and give you the chance to mention your own wishes or thoughts about the inteface I'm interested what do you use currently to write you own correspondence (letter, invoices etc.). First, I used lettre.cls (LaTeX class). It has one really great feature: the vertical spaces are recalculated at every pass, in order to get a last page filled at least to 50%. Without this, you can easily get a second page with only the closing and the signature. Then, for some reason that I forgot, I switched to scrlttr2.cls. And I patched it to get the same minimum-50%-feature. Unfortunately, this patch is no more working with recent versions of scrlttr2... (- http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/LaTeX/lettre.lco ) I would welcome such a feature in your module! Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Discussion: correspondence with ConTeXt
On Thu, Apr 17 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: * Quite a bit of correspondence is invoices and quotes, with automatic calculations in them (VAT etc). Hello Taco, Quite funny: Just 3 days ago, I wrote t-invoice.tex for my personal needs, just 1 command and very very simple: \startInvoice \invoiceItem[description=Ballon eau chaude, price={5063,4 + 1115,87}] \invoiceItem[description=Vase d'expansion, price={386,25}] \invoiceItem[description=Plan d'implantation du bâtiment, price={257,14}] \invoiceItem[description=Branchement d'eau, price={2891,62}] \stopInvoice \stopInvoice prints the total. Here the definitions (can be enhanced and/or wikified): \startluacode -- namespace thirddata = thirddata or { } thirddata.invoices = {} thirddata.invoices.total = 0 thirddata.invoices.pos = 1 -- get price with right format -- p: the price -- return price with right format function thirddata.invoices.format(p) local s = string.format(%.2f, p) s = s:gsub(%., ,) return s end -- print new item -- d: the description -- p: the price function thirddata.invoices.new_item(d, p) thirddata.invoices.total = thirddata.invoices.total + p tex.print(\\bTR\\bTD .. string.format(%03d, thirddata.invoices.pos) .. \\eTD\\bTD .. d .. \\eTD\\bTD .. thirddata.invoices.format(p) .. \\eTD\\eTR) thirddata.invoices.pos = thirddata.invoices.pos + 1 end \stopluacode \def\invoiceItem{\dosingleargument\doinvoiceItem} \def\doinvoiceItem[#1]{\getparameters[IV][#1] \ctxlua{thirddata.invoices.new_item(\IVdescription, \ctxlua{local s = string.gsub(\IVprice, ,, .); tex.print(s)})}} \def\invoiceTotal{% \ctxlua{tex.print(thirddata.invoices.format(thirddata.invoices.total))}} \def\startInvoice{\start \setupTABLE[frame=off,textwidth=\textwidth,option=stretch] \setupTABLE[r][first][bottomframe=on] \setupTABLE[r][2,last][top=\blank] \setupTABLE[c][first,2][align=flushleft] \setupTABLE[c][last][align={flushright,lohi}] \bTABLE\bTR\bTH Position \eTH\bTH Description \eTH\bTH Prix \eTH\eTR} \def\stopInvoice{\bTR\bTD[nc=2,align=flushright]Total:\eTD \bTD \invoiceTotal\eTD\eTR\eTABLE\stop} Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Roll-Your-Own Stand-Alone (Was re. ConTeXt ultraminimals)
Joel C. Salomon wrote: I'm working on ConTeXt+SciTE-on-a-USB-Stick. A downloadable program is still far off, as is a version that can be put on PortableApps.com, but I've gotten to the point of mapping out the basic parameters: • We need to have a start-up program, which will set up the environment and start SciTE and/or a command prompt. • Legacy-free is nice, but if ConTeXt+XeTeX (which I'll call mkiii whether that's an official name or no) requires texexec then we need just mkii, at least for a long time -) to include Ruby anyway, so we may as well keep PDFTeX (mkii), BUT: • Since my Windows machine already has Perl, Python, Ruby, I'm going to defer working on that last point. we dont't need full perl and ruby; perl only when you want to use mptopdf, which is not needed because texexec can do the same; so, a small ruby is enough • In fact, I'm going to defer including SciTE also, until I have a working stand-alone ConTeXt… there is a startup script in the cdwincontext zip Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Roll-Your-Own Stand-Alone (Was re. ConTeXt ultraminimals)
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to defer working on [Perl Ruby]. we dont't need full perl and ruby; perl only when you want to use mptopdf, which is not needed because texexec can do the same; so, a small ruby is enough So does anyone on the list have any experience in packaging a stripped-down Ruby? I'm going to defer including SciTE until I have a working stand-alone ConTeXt there is a startup script in the cdwincontext zip Do you mean cscite.bat? Looks like a good place to start. --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___