Re: [NTG-context] urw-garamond with MKIV

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Peter Münster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> > Try the following setups.
> >
> > \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
> >   \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> >   \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [Garamond-Regular]
> >   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [Garamond-Medium]
> >   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic]
> >   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
> >   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular]  [file:ugmr8a]  
> > [features=default]
> >   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium]   [file:ugmm8a]  
> > [features=default]
> >   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic]   [file:ugmri8a] 
> > [features=default]
> >   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:ugmmi8a] 
> > [features=default]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
> >   \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [urwgaramond] [default]
> > \stoptypescript
>
> Hello Wolfgang,
>
> I tried:
>
> % engine=luatex
>
> [ your setup ]
>
> \usetypescript[urwgaramond]
> \setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]
>
> \starttext
> \rm\input knuth
>
> \it\input knuth
>
> \bf\input knuth
>
> \bi\input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> But unfortnuatly only rectangles instead of letters in the pdf...

Hi Peter,

I tried yesterday to use the type1 of the luximono fonts with MkIV
and got myself weird results in the output.

I'm don't what the correct way to use type1 fonts in MkIV without
map files is but Hans should be able to tell use this.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2008-04-20 um 23:00 schrieb Keith McKay:
> I'm not sure if this is available to those of you outside of the UK  
> but here is the link to the BBC iPlayer for the show

Unfortunately they block it:
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/outsideuk


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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

[Keith McKay]

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Von: Martin Schröder
Datum: 20. April 2008 16:55:12 GMT+02:00
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
Antwort an: German Language TeX Users Group Communication List [EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Wonderful 60 minutes of the BBC showing Stephen Fry recreating an the
original Gutenberg printing process.

http://www.fontblog.de/auf-den-spuren-gutenbergs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91smRXrEPRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0FKWpNTUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souzdLjgrzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIur4eiOR38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNCvgSICbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWeMK-Q9NMQ

Best
   Martin





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I'm not sure if this is available to those of you outside of the UK but 
here is the link to the BBC iPlayer for the show


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009wynj.shtml

It was a brilliant presentation.

Best Wishes

Keith McKay
Hamilton, Scotland, UK
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[NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Von: Martin Schröder
> Datum: 20. April 2008 16:55:12 GMT+02:00
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
> Antwort an: German Language TeX Users Group Communication List  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Wonderful 60 minutes of the BBC showing Stephen Fry recreating an the
> original Gutenberg printing process.
>
> http://www.fontblog.de/auf-den-spuren-gutenbergs
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91smRXrEPRs
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0FKWpNTUc
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souzdLjgrzM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIur4eiOR38
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNCvgSICbc
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWeMK-Q9NMQ
>
> Best
>Martin



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Re: [NTG-context] urw-garamond with MKIV

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Apr 14 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Try the following setups.
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
>   \setups[font:fallback:serif]
>   \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [Garamond-Regular]
>   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [Garamond-Medium]
>   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic]
>   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
>   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular]  [file:ugmr8a]  [features=default]
>   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium]   [file:ugmm8a]  [features=default]
>   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic]   [file:ugmri8a] [features=default]
>   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:ugmmi8a] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
>   \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [urwgaramond] [default]
> \stoptypescript

Hello Wolfgang,

I tried:

% engine=luatex

[ your setup ]

\usetypescript[urwgaramond]
\setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]

\starttext
\rm\input knuth

\it\input knuth

\bf\input knuth

\bi\input knuth
\stoptext

But unfortnuatly only rectangles instead of letters in the pdf...

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Re: [NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

[Peter Münster]

On Sun, Apr 20 2008, Tobias Burnus wrote:

> \stopformula
> 
> \indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

There are at least 3 possibilities:

1.) \indentation Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

2.) \setupformulae[indentnext=yes]

3.) \setupformulae[indentnext=auto]
(for me the best one)

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Re: [NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Tobias Burnus wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> how does one get an indention after a formula? The last paragraph shall
> be indented, but it is not. Any idea?

\setupformulas[indentnext=auto] (also try yes, default is no)

> Tobias
>
> \setupindenting[yes,1em,first]
> \starttext
> We start with a formula,
> \placeformula
> \startformula
> a^2+b^2=c^2,
> \stopformula
> \noindent which was found by a Greek; it can also be written as
> \placeformula
> \startformula
> a^2+b^2-c^2 = 0.
> \stopformula
>
> \indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

Use \indentation instead of \indent.

Aditya

> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi all,

how does one get an indention after a formula? The last paragraph shall 
be indented, but it is not. Any idea?

Tobias

\setupindenting[yes,1em,first]
\starttext
We start with a formula,
\placeformula
\startformula
a^2+b^2=c^2,
\stopformula
\noindent which was found by a Greek; it can also be written as
\placeformula
\startformula
a^2+b^2-c^2 = 0.
\stopformula

\indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

[Bruce D\'Arcus]

Taco Hoekwater  elvenkind.com> writes:

[snip]

> But the few times I've had to work with TEI stuff I found that you
> can easily get much more than you bargained for. Bibliographic data
> is not easy on its own, and a format that allows (almost promotes)
> extra tags to be embedded also is not helping at all.

... MODS has some of these issues too. Consider these are both valid:


  Jane Doe
  
creator
  



  Jane
  Doe
  
creator
  


So in many formats there's a balance between flexibility and
brevity/predictability. 

FWIW, I've just settled on RDF for my own data needs between it provides the
formal rigor of relational databases (that XML per se lacks), but much more
flexibility. 

But as I said in the previous note, I don't think the data format has to matter
that much to formatting software (at its core that is).

Bruce

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

[Bruce D'Arcus]

Taco Hoekwater  elvenkind.com> writes:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Andreas Wagner wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity: What are your reasons for preferring this over TEI:
> 
> MODS was a logical choice mostly my background (scientific publishers
> => MARC databases => MODS), and that BruceD'Arcus liked it.  Btw,
> his blog is full of bibliographic articles, if you are interested:
> 
>http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/
> 
> (but it looks like he has switched over to RDF now)

Yes, but ...
 
> I am not really set to any particular xml format, and there are
> more mainstream choices (risx comes to mind).

... I'd say for the design of something like mbib v2 I'd advocate an internal
model that abstracts away from any particular more concrete representation. So
think in terms of maybe a standard input driver, but leave room for easy
development of others. 

There's some work going on a Python version of my citeproc effort, for example,
and he's planning input drivers for MODS, RDF, BibTeX, etc.



This makes is easy for someone to write another input driver for some SQL model.
 
> But the few times I've had to work with TEI stuff I found that you
> can easily get much more than you bargained for. Bibliographic data
> is not easy on its own, and a format that allows (almost promotes)
> extra tags to be embedded also is not helping at all.
> 
> Look at this:
> 
>http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/html/ref-author.html
> 
> Just the 'core' module is already pretty complex, but 'namesdates'
> and 'linking' are definately also required for a useful bibliographic
> database.
> 
> The nice, consise examples in the TEI docs are misleading because
> 
>Lucy Allen Paton
> 
> is useless, more specifics are needed. We need at least this:
> 
>
>  
>Lucy
>Allen
>Paton
>  
>
> 
> But with the use of , there are suddenly a gazillion
> ways an author can encode the same name  (and it does not
> preclude any of the other ways to encode a name).
> 
>http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/html/ND.html#NDPER
> 
> Etc. etc. Imagine having to support that in a simple context module.

In the XML citation style language I designed [1] (which *could* serve as the
basis for that "internal model" I mention above), there's an implicit notion
that any name can have both a sort form and a display form, and that they may
(but in contexts like Eastern Europe or Asia often don't) differ. 

This makes things in many ways both simpler, and more general (works for
organizations, as well as is more international-friendly than traditional
first/last). You just handle the details you note above in the input drive code.

Bruce

[1]


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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Otared Kavian wrote:
>> How about the MacBook Air?…
>> It is some 1300 grams (but indeed more expensive).
>
> indeed much more expensive (my current workhorse is a dell M90); i  
> have
> a 17 in mac sitting dead on a desk for year snow ... too closed
> hard/software to figure out the problem (i could have bought 10  
> EEEPC's
> for the money)
>
> anyhow, for me the ieee solution sounds like a nice way to carry tex  
> to
> a conference instead of a production machine -)
>
> Hans

Yes, the MacBook Air is nice, but in a completely different league -  
price, specs etc. For me, the form factor was also very important: I  
wanted something as small as possible, and the MBA has the same size  
as a regular laptop.  As for carrying TeX to a conference: the really  
great thing is that you can have different operating systems on SDHC  
cards. I have one with Mandriva and one with SuSE and want to try  
Ubuntu next week. So you could have different TeX installs and switch  
very quickly and cleanly.

I would've gone for the 9" as well, but given the looong wait for  
the first generation, I don't think you'll be able to actually buy one  
of those before the end of the summer. The 7" was announced for  
November, then December, then February...

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

[Hans Hagen]

Otared Kavian wrote:
> How about the MacBook Air?…
> It is some 1300 grams (but indeed more expensive).

indeed much more expensive (my current workhorse is a dell M90); i have 
a 17 in mac sitting dead on a desk for year snow ... too closed 
hard/software to figure out the problem (i could have bought 10 EEEPC's 
for the money)

anyhow, for me the ieee solution sounds like a nice way to carry tex to 
a conference instead of a production machine -)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

[Suno Ano]

 >| On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:56 +0200,
 >| Matija Šuklje
 >| who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >| (whose comments are cited below with " Matija> "),
 >| had this to say in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >| in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 >| concerning the subject of Re: Fonts and other tips for thesis and other 
 >academic works
 >| (see <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more details)

 Matija> Done. I've translated the comments. I hope it's comprehensible
 Matija> for non-slovenian users now :)
Yes. thank you :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

[Otared Kavian]

How about the MacBook Air?…
It is some 1300 grams (but indeed more expensive).

Best regards: OK

On 19 avr. 08, at 11:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> maybe this is off-topic, but I just wanted to tell you about my
> experiences (and sorry if this sounds like a sales pitch, it isn't!).
> Since I have a fairly long commute to work, I spend a lot of time on
> the train and like/need to do serious work there. When you have to
> schlepp it almost every day, a normal laptop seems pretty heavy after
> a while, that's why I got me one of those eeepc thingies. Its tiny
> screen and small keyboard scream "I'm just a mobile device, not a
> replacement for a real computer," and it's not the fastest machine
> around. However, my joy is great whenever I stuff the little thing in
> my bag and lift it.
>
> I got the 8GB variant. To do work, I always want all my documents with
> me (so I can easily sync my entire Documents directory between work,
> home, and laptop) and, of course, my TeX installation. My texlive-
> texmf tree now is 1.6 G, so I needed a bit more space than the 4G
> model offers (models with larger screens and hard disks will be
> available soonish). It has a SDHC card reader, so I copied my
> Documents and the TeX installation to the internal disk (a SSD) and
> have my linux installation on a card from which I boot. With a shell
> script, I set the $PATH so I can mount the internal disk and run
> ConTeXt off of it. Everything works wonderfully. As I said, it's a
> slow machine, so you don't want to compile very long documents too
> often, but it does run every flavor of ConTeXt. I often prepare my
> presentations on the train, and this works great: I have the
> environment to which I'm used for editing the source files (emacs +
> ConTeXt) and a pdf viewer open in another workspace. This setup is one
> of the reasons why I prefer a texlive installation to a minimal
> ConTeXt tree: that way, I have to maintain it only once and can sync
> it between my computers. So whoever has to travel a lot: I find it
> wonderful to have such a small and light computer on the road.
>
> All best, have a nice weekend
>
> Thomas
>
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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:
> http://www.ink-media.com/index.html

the via c7 is ok but not enough mem for a decent tex installation and 
tex job; maybe we should define a kind of 'suited for tex' spec

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

[Robin Kirkham]

On 20 April 2008, "George N. White III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robin Kirkham  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my
>>  research group, [...]
>
> I can tell you a few things that don't work!  In our lab we have both
> TeX and Word users.  Many of them had been using a DOS package
> called papyrus, using a special markup that could be translated
> to tex (.bbl) files.  Nothing we found was really satisfactory, so
> we bought EndNote, which could import from papyrus via "refer"
> format and can export to "almost bibtex".  One problem is that
> EndNote uses unicode, so we end up with è, etc. that must
> be translated for some user's versions of bibtex.  The database
> now has a nearly infinite variety of different quote marks:
> `a`, 'a', ``a'', "a", etc. depending on how the entry was made
> (many are pasted from online or pdf sources).
>
> EndNote is really designed for individual users, although sold
> in bulk.  If 2 people open the same database on a shared
> drive they end up with a corrupt database.
>
> In my view, a bibliographic database needs to store each
> reference in the "source" or original format, whether bibtex,
> refer, or one of the newer forms, and provide translators
> and version tracking, so each file can have forks for different
> uses (e.g., ascii vs unicode char. sets) and edits can be
> preserved for the next user.  In practice, people just dump
> selected refs to a bib file, make the .bbl file, and fix problems
> there, so fixes rarely make it back to the master database.
> If they did, we would still have accents and quote marks
> being switched back and forth depending on who last used
> the entry.


Thanks George. EndNote is I believe the corporately-approved solution  
here, and similar disasters occur when people try and share its data  
files. For this reason I don't call these sorts of personal-level  
programs "databases" (any more than I'll call a .bib file a database).

The TeX folk don't fare much better. Multiple personal .bib files are  
common, often with duplicate references but different citation keys,  
leading to rather variable results depending on who run LaTeX/ConTeXt  
on the file. Inconsistency in data entry is also a problem, although  
for us, accents and quotes don't seem to too big a problem.  
(`Authorless', i.e., corporate author documents, like data sheets,  
seems to be more of an issue).

For this reason I'm looking for a proper SQL database solution like  
refdb or refbase (or maybe wikindx, thanks Andreas) with a web front- 
end that will hopefully enforce somewhat more consistent data entry,  
and maybe even auto-generate citation keys. Taco, your remarks  
regarding interchange formats are valuable (both refdb and refbase  
support MODS XML output).

Robin
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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

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Re: [NTG-context] new options for \setupinteractionscreen

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Vit Zyka wrote:
>> Dear ConTeXters,
>>
>> for PDF document one can set /PageLayout. It is a mode in which reader 
>> shows us pages (Single, Continous, Facing, ...). in ConTeXt one can set
>>
>>\setupinteractionscreen[option=doublesided]
>>
>> which set layout /TwoColumnRight (understand two facing continuous 
>> pages with odd pages on the right side). Since PDF 1.5 there is a 
>> possibility to set 3 more layouts:
>>
>>/TwoColumnLeft
>>/TwoPageRight
>>/TwoPageLeft
>>
>> I poropose to incorporate next lines of code to sources to enable 
>> setting of these layouts
>>
>>% double=facing, column=continuous, right|left=where odd page
>>\setupinteractionscreen[
>>  option=doublecolumnleft,
>>  option=doublepageright,
>>  option=doublepageleft,
>>  option=doublecolumnright, % for compatibility = doublesided
>>  option=doublecolumn,  % for simplicity = doublecolumnright
>>  option=doublepage,% for simplicity = doublepageright
>>]
> 
> another option is (less new keywords)
> 
> option={doublesided,left,continue} % any order

Much cleverer! But in this case there is a backward incompatibility

   {doublesided,continue} = current {doublesided}
   {doublesided} = would mean NONcontinuous

Actually whenever I wanted to use facing layout, I wanted NONcontinuous. 
So I do not bother with this backward incompatibility. May be somebody 
else do?

Vit

>> These names are derrived from curren naming convention (doublesided) 
>> and PDF names. May be we can use more intuitive variants:
>> option=facingright,
>> option=facingleft,
>> option=facingcontinuousright,
>> option=facingcontinuousleft,
>>
>> Sorry I know English and Czech interface only and for FDF driver. May 
>> be somebody add more.
>>
>> Vit
>>
>> Proposal:
>> -
>> % mult-con.tex
>> \startvariablesdutch english
>> germanczech
>> italian   romanian
>> french
>>
>>  doublecolumnright: doublecolumnright doublecolumnright
>> doublecolumnright dvasloupcevpravo
>> doublecolumnright doublecolumnright
>> doublecolumnright
>>   doublecolumnleft: doublecolumnleft  doublecolumnleft
>> doublecolumnleft  dvasloupcevlevo
>> doublecolumnleft  doublecolumnleft
>> doublecolumnleft
>>   doublecolumn: doublecolumn  doublecolumn
>> doublecolumn  dvasloupce
>> doublecolumn  doublecolumn
>> doublecolumn
>>doublepageright: doublepageright   doublepageright
>> doublepageright   dvestrankyvpravo
>> doublepageright   doublepageright
>> doublepageright
>> doublepageleft: doublepageleftdoublepageleft
>> doublepageleftdvestrankyvlevo
>> doublepageleftdoublepageleft
>> doublepageleft
>> doublepage: doublepagedoublepage
>> doublepagedvestranky
>> doublepagedoublepage
>> doublepage
>> \stopvariables
>>
>> % core-int
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumnright}{4} % compatibility
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumnleft}{5}  % new
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepageright}{6}   % new
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepageleft}{7}% new
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumn}{4}  % compatibility
>>\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepage}{6}% compatibility
>>
>> % spec-fdf.tex
>> \def\doPDFsetupscreen#1#2#3#4#5#6% watch the extra argument
>>{\bgroup
>>\xdef\currentPDFpagemode
>>   {\ifnum#6=4
>>  /PageLayout /TwoColumnRight
>>\else\ifnum#6=5
>>  /PageLayout /TwoColumnLeft
>>\else\ifnum#6=6
>>  /PageLayout /TwoPageRight
>>\else\ifnum#6=7
>>  /PageLayout /TwoPageLeft
>>\else
>>  /PageMode \ifcase#6
>>  /UseNone\or/FullScreen\or/UseOutlines\else/UseNone\fi
>>\fi\fi\fi\fi}%
>> \xdef\currentPDFviewerprefs % space after #6 needed, else \relax
>>   {\ifcase#6 \or\or\else /ViewerPreferences << /FitWindow true 
>> >>\fi}%
>> \egroup}
>> 

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