[NTG-context] pdf forms
I wrote a simple context file for pdf form filling. Translates fine, but the resulting pdf simply shows text but no fillable forms. What's needed to actually get forms? Here's the tex code: % interface=en tex=pdfetex output=pdftex \starttext Field 1: \fillinfield[name]{text that defines field length} \definefield [Email] [line] [ShortLine] [] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Field 2: \field [Email] [your email] \stoptext Thanks! Bernhard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf forms
try \setupinteraction[state=start] Greetings Lutz 2008/5/29 Bernhard Boser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wrote a simple context file for pdf form filling. Translates fine, but the resulting pdf simply shows text but no fillable forms. What's needed to actually get forms? Here's the tex code: % interface=en tex=pdfetex output=pdftex \starttext Field 1: \fillinfield[name]{text that defines field length} \definefield [Email] [line] [ShortLine] [] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Field 2: \field [Email] [your email] \stoptext Thanks! Bernhard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2008, Maurício wrote: Hi, Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX be if it was created today? luatex http://www.luatex.org There is ant http://ant.berlios.de/ River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX. http://osdir.com/ml/tex.context/2001-01/msg00057.html -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
There is ant http://ant.berlios.de/, but it is supposed to be saner form of TeX (in terms of source code, and easy of configuration) which was developed from scratch. The user interface is quite similar to TeX. I do not know much about the internal differences between Ant and TeX. ANT have many major improvements. But as to the output pdf file of ANT, I cannot see much difference:( River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX. Also since the computers now are more powerful, I think that doing page breaking on a global manner (or atleast by looking two three pages down, rather than just the current page), will make certain things (like long mathematical forumlas, and complex footnotes) appear nicely without a lot of manual tweaking. Agreed. River detection and global page break are very important for an advanced Typesetting system. I think control arbitrary streams on pages (available many advanced software, like InDesign) are also useful. I hope they will be in LuaTeX soon. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Maurício wrote: Hi, Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it seems dead. Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that could be used if we would write a new typesetting system from scratch? Practically speaking, I expect it would be a lot like lyx with tex built in. Who would design a document language without front-end these days? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that could be used if we would write a new typesetting system from scratch? River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX. If there was a clear algorithm I could implement that in luatex. But I have not seen any whitepaper on the subject and I cannot read OCaml source well enough to understand what is going on ... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] markup format --- ConTeXt
Hi! At the moment I use Emacs Muse for writing my study notes which I then have to submit as *.doc file (muse -- html - OO -- doc). I like it 'cause it enables me to combine all the notes and convert into ConTeXt later. However, the only disadvantage of it is that Muse markup is tied to Emacs editor and not so popular for those using other editors. Therefore I am considering some other 'easy' markup with the ConTeXt back-end. Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html), but according to what I see both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgphp0M7JDuZ8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Hi. Practically speaking, I expect it would be a lot like lyx with tex built in. Who would design a document language without front-end these days? Maybe using LuaTeX + wxLua + Poppler is a better approach? Yue Wang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang: advanced software, like InDesign well ... cough ... Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] markup format --- ConTeXt
On Fri, 30 May 2008, Gour wrote: Hi! At the moment I use Emacs Muse for writing my study notes which I then have to submit as *.doc file (muse -- html - OO -- doc). I like it 'cause it enables me to combine all the notes and convert into ConTeXt later. However, the only disadvantage of it is that Muse markup is tied to Emacs editor and not so popular for those using other editors. Therefore I am considering some other 'easy' markup with the ConTeXt back-end. Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html), but according to what I see both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? Have a look at pandoc which converts markdown to ConTeXt and also to many other formats including html. There was also some discussion for conversion to OO, but I do not know the current status of that. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
2008/5/30 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aditya Mahajan wrote: River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX. If there was a clear algorithm I could implement that in luatex. But I have not seen any whitepaper on the subject and I cannot read OCaml source well enough to understand what is going on ... AFAIK it doesn't work. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang: advanced software, like InDesign well ... cough ... There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it seems dead. I think that the input language would be xml in order to be easily adapt to html, epub, odt… The today difference is that we need to be able to put the text on many different devices : paper, screen, epaper… Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Hi Yue, On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:24:56 -0600, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: advanced software, like InDesign well ... cough ... There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. Can you give a precise list of the features contained in InDesign that are missing in (lua)TeX or which TeX does not support well? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 30.05.2008 um 14:24 schrieb Yue Wang: On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang: advanced software, like InDesign well ... cough ... There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. ;o) ... you can buy a czech version or a polish version, for working with hebrew you may buy a hebrew or a middle eastern version ... and wasn't there also an arabic version to buy? With TeX you only have one piece for all ... and you can't even buy it. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
On Friday 30 May 2008 16:15:08 Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 30.05.2008 um 14:24 schrieb Yue Wang: On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang: advanced software, like InDesign well ... cough ... There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. ;o) ... you can buy a czech version or a polish version, for working with hebrew you may buy a hebrew or a middle eastern version ... and wasn't there also an arabic version to buy? With TeX you only have one piece for all ... and you can't even buy it. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ You are also free to purchase future new versions of InDesign, Illustrator, and the like, not to mention that of the operating system that it runs under! -- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-dna2006.cea.fr/ .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] markup format --- ConTeXt
Aditya == Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Mahajan ;) Aditya Have a look at pandoc which converts markdown to ConTeXt and Aditya also to many other formats including html. There was also some Aditya discussion for conversion to OO, but I do not know the current Aditya status of that. Heh, shortly after posting to the list I found out about pandoc. One thing which worries me is the info from user-guide: ...For example, it doesn’t handle tables, option lists, or footnotes. Do you have any experience with pandoc and reST as well as quality of ConTeXt output? It looks that markdown is first class citizen in pandoc, but no idea how it compares with ReST. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpZPYgYfYrVB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] split cells ? world lost !
Hi, hope the answer to my question is not too obvious: How do I split not only TABLE but cells? Please, have a look at this minimal: \starttext \bTABLE[split=yes,option=stretch] \bTR \bTD \input tufte \input knuth Hello world ... \eTD \bTD \input tufte \eTD \bTD \input knuth \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD Test \eTD \bTD Test \eTD \bTD Test \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoptext (Hello) world lost? Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] split cells ? world lost !
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, hope the answer to my question is not too obvious: How do I split not only TABLE but cells? Please, have a look at this minimal: \starttext \bTABLE[split=yes,option=stretch] \bTR \bTD \input tufte \input knuth Hello world ... \eTD \bTD \input tufte \eTD \bTD \input knuth \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD Test \eTD \bTD Test \eTD \bTD Test \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoptext not possible -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Am 2008-05-30 um 14:31 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the internationalization of InDesign is better. Can you give a precise list of the features contained in InDesign that are missing in (lua)TeX or which TeX does not support well? - much faster (i.e. I don't need to wait for several TeX runs e.g. if I need to check if some tweak fixed my page breaking) - optical (vs. metrical) kerning - a GUI ;-) and thus layout by let's try how it looks - layout definition (I struggle with ConTeXt's \setuplayout every time) - better page breaking constraints (you can define in your style sheets keep n lines together and keep this together with the next paragraph) - PDF/X output - color profile conversions - image processing features like crop paths, feathered edges, drop shadow (in ConTeXt I need to prepare such in Photoshop in the right size - but I guess it would be possible to write a module that uses ImageMagick to achieve something similar) Problems in TeX *and* InDesign: - Unicode handling (composed and decomposed UTF-8 with or without BOM, UTF-16, different line endings) Working with InDesign as a developer I know that TeX's documentation is far better. Adobe's developer docs (e.g. on API, XML format, InDesign tagged text) are incomplete and errorneous. I don't think you can call the one or other better or more advanced, it's just a different approach, and I choose the right tool for every project. (I.e. I only use TeX if I need the same content in different versions, if I can automate something or for books.) But the layout applications like InDesign (there's still also ugly old QuarkXPress, coming-of-age Scribus and some others) have learned a lot of the former domains of TeX, like registers and toc generation. There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts). Isn't indesign programmable too ? I know people who use it in an automatic workflow for db publishing -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___