Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisa#322;(a): On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: Hi, you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text wherever you want in Keynote. In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be done. achieve the easiness I mean. positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than do that with keyboard, and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the right result. Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)... My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document, and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables, is to: 1. think about it 2. sketch it on a piece of paper 3. think a bit more 4. write down the important coordinates etc. 5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4. This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice or thrice). not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables, make simple drawings, metafun or tikz get fancy templates, apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or believable shade) Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX, but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach (using metafun?) quite unproductive. As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is *thinking* (and writing the *text*). Even two or three hours of typing don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position and/or size...) So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX, using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is always not a good idea. This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you consider your presentation slides unstructured, maybe it's time to devote more thinking to it... But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz. I agree that in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything. Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why vim users don't use the ESC key? - It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Update bug under Windows not fixed yet
I know it is fixed under Linux. Thanks.
But on Windows, it is still broken:
D:\Programs\contextfirst-setup.bat
receiving incremental file list
sent 91 bytes received 205 bytes 84.57 bytes/sec
total size is 4983352 speedup is 16835.65
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTOLOC set to D:/Programs/context/bin
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTODIR set to D:/Programs/context
MTXrun | fileio: variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to D:/Programs
MTXrun | fileio: variable TEXMFCNF set to {$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/shar
e,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}
MTXrun | fileio: no cnf files found (TEXMFCNF may not be set/known)
MTXrun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.lua
D:\Programs\context\bin\mtxrun.lua:1611: attempt to call field 'env' (a table va
lue)
When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree with:
D:\Programs\context\tex\setuptex.bat D:\Programs\context\tex
You can associate this command with a shortcut to the cmd prompt.
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:21:30 +0800 Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com scribit: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: Hi, you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text wherever you want in Keynote. In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be done. achieve the easiness I mean. positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than do that with keyboard, no and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the right result. not many, max three times : too low/high, too high/low, and then right ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
R. Bastian: CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT luigi: To be general, i think MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END R. Bastian: I dont understand the sense of \end\starttext sense==semantic \end\starttext is a valid string for a hypothetical bnf grammar of ContTeXt which is not valid for your bnf ; \end\starttext\stoptext is in your bnf grammar and has the same semantic of \end\starttext . The point is : a bnf for Context can be hard to define luigi: think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of standard-ConTeXt or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt ie a ConTeXt to use as reference R. Bastian: Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light Exactly what can be hard to define and capture in a bnf . wolfgang How could a BNF grammar help to learn ConTeXt, a bnf can help to build a syntax checker, a highlighter etc. Actually the only way to say that you have a valid ConTeXt string is running context on that string . The semantic is another story. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:48:40 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: R. Bastian: CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT luigi: To be general, i think MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END R. Bastian: I dont understand the sense of \end\starttext sense==semantic \end\starttext is a valid string for a hypothetical bnf grammar of ContTeXt which is not valid for your bnf ; \end\starttext\stoptext is in your bnf grammar and has the same semantic of \end\starttext . The point is : a bnf for Context can be hard to define luigi: think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of standard-ConTeXt or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt ie a ConTeXt to use as reference R. Bastian: Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light Exactly what can be hard to define and capture in a bnf . wolfgang How could a BNF grammar help to learn ConTeXt, a bnf can help to build a syntax checker, a highlighter etc. Actually the only way to say that you have a valid ConTeXt string is running context on that string . The semantic is another story. OK - but isn't it not worth to try it ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:48:40 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: R. Bastian: CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT luigi: To be general, i think MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END R. Bastian: I dont understand the sense of \end\starttext sense==semantic \end\starttext is a valid string for a hypothetical bnf grammar of ContTeXt which is not valid for your bnf ; \end\starttext\stoptext is in your bnf grammar and has the same semantic of \end\starttext . The point is : a bnf for Context can be hard to define luigi: think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of standard-ConTeXt or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt ie a ConTeXt to use as reference R. Bastian: Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light Exactly what can be hard to define and capture in a bnf . wolfgang How could a BNF grammar help to learn ConTeXt, a bnf can help to build a syntax checker, a highlighter etc. Actually the only way to say that you have a valid ConTeXt string is running context on that string . The semantic is another story. OK - but isn't it not worth to try it ? sure, and I encourage you to go on and possibly write something x next eurotex. My suggestions to start : 1) define a **simple but significative** domain ,ie this grammar is for subset of ConTeXt language dedicated to variable-data pdf forms 2) make a bnf grammar spec 3) build a parser lex/yacc for 2) 4) make a lpeg grammar 5) user lpeg inside context for 3) PS it was just a coincidence , but for other reasons I have found this link http://martinfowler.com/dslwip/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Yue Wang wrote: Please design a few fancy slides in both Powerpoint/Keynote and TeX, and compare the efforts you should take. Good exercises to follow are Steve Jobs' WWDC presentations and Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth. After doing so, you can come back and tell us that only twice re-compilation are needed to design a good presentation. Could you please take this discussion somewhere else? This is neither of interest for a ConTeXt mailing list, nor is the tone appropriate for this list. Thank you. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
Could you please take this discussion somewhere else? This is neither of interest for a ConTeXt mailing list, nor is the tone appropriate for this list. Thank you. I don't think this topic is unrelated to ConTeXt (or TeX). For a long time TeX macro packages has been focused on structured documents (and it is obviously not WYSIWYG). If someone can develop a GUI frontend (even a simple one to set figure/textblock position) for TeX, it will be as meaningful as what the TeX community is doing now (like developing TeX engines, formats, source editors, fonts, etc.) Obviously, all recent GUI frontends (texmacs, texword, etc.) are not meant to do so, they only help the beginners to structure their documents, not truly for document design purpose. As to the tone, i admit it is unappropriate, sorry about that. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:57:04 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:48:40 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: R. Bastian: CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT luigi: To be general, i think MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END R. Bastian: I dont understand the sense of \end\starttext sense==semantic \end\starttext is a valid string for a hypothetical bnf grammar of ContTeXt which is not valid for your bnf ; \end\starttext\stoptext is in your bnf grammar and has the same semantic of \end\starttext . The point is : a bnf for Context can be hard to define luigi: think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of standard-ConTeXt or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt ie a ConTeXt to use as reference R. Bastian: Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light Exactly what can be hard to define and capture in a bnf . wolfgang How could a BNF grammar help to learn ConTeXt, a bnf can help to build a syntax checker, a highlighter etc. Actually the only way to say that you have a valid ConTeXt string is running context on that string . The semantic is another story. OK - but isn't it not worth to try it ? sure, and I encourage you to go on and possibly write something x next eurotex. My suggestions to start : 1) define a **simple but significative** domain ,ie this grammar is for subset of ConTeXt language dedicated to variable-data pdf forms yes 2) make a bnf grammar spec yes 3) build a parser lex/yacc for 2) later 4) make a lpeg grammar 5) user lpeg inside context for 3) PS it was just a coincidence , but for other reasons I have found this link http://martinfowler.com/dslwip/ -- luigi I think a wiki would be a better forum than this mailing-list ? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
My suggestions to start : 1) define a **simple but significative** domain ,ie this grammar is for subset of ConTeXt language dedicated to variable-data pdf forms yes 2) make a bnf grammar spec yes 3) build a parser lex/yacc for 2) later why ? There is no difference between 2 and 3 I think a wiki would be a better forum than this mailing-list ? hmm this mailing-list is ok for this kind of discussions a wiki is wiki.contextgarden.net and you should put your results in your personal page -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt
In a recent MkIV you even have the option to enable a key-val-checkers which mention invalid keys on the terminal. Oh, dear! How!? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt
Am 30.04.2009 um 12:45 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: In a recent MkIV you even have the option to enable a key-val-checkers which mention invalid keys on the terminal. Oh, dear! How!? Example: \usemodule[letter] \enablecheckparameters \starttext \setupletterstyle[subject][style=bold,foo=bar] \startletter[subject=Subject] \input knuth \stopletter \stoptext Log file: syntax : invalid key 'foo' for 'lettersection:subject' in line 8 Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] presentation module
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl wrote: Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisa#322;(a): On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: Hi, you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text wherever you want in Keynote. In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be done. achieve the easiness I mean. positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than do that with keyboard, and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the right result. Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)... My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document, and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables, is to: 1. think about it 2. sketch it on a piece of paper 3. think a bit more 4. write down the important coordinates etc. 5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4. This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice or thrice). Please design a few fancy slides in both Powerpoint/Keynote and TeX, and compare the efforts you should take. Good exercises to follow are Steve Jobs' WWDC presentations and Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth. After doing so, you can come back and tell us that only twice re-compilation are needed to design a good presentation. not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables, make simple drawings, metafun or tikz there is an old saying in China: 站着说话不腰疼. (you won't hurt your hip when you stand still while speaking) get fancy templates, apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or believable shade) Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX, but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach (using metafun?) quite unproductive. As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is *thinking* (and writing the *text*). Even two or three hours of typing don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position and/or size...) It is funny to say ConTeXt results will be better... Please try the grid positioning feature in Keynote or InDesign CS4. but even the picture are in slightly different position/size, the viewer wont notice that. As a contrast, trying again and again for tuning/positioning/compiling TeX document (and lookup TeX commands on manual) will distract me from real thinking So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX, using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is always not a good idea. This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you consider your presentation slides unstructured, maybe it's time to devote more thinking to it... I admit it is easy to create bulletpoint presentations in ConTeXt (even easier than Keynote and PowerPoint, \item will do all the stuffs) But bear in mind structured presentation handout \neq structured presentation slides As far as I know, for most time, the presentation handout should be structured (point 1, point 2, point3.1, point 3.2 ...) so the speaker can cover the topic throughly. However, a structured presentation slide (e.g., bulletpoint) is too monotonous-dull to put the audience to sleep easily. Only by careful reorganization of materials can the speaker makes an awesome presentation. That's why Steve Job's presentations are all unstructured, but the audience know clearly what the key points are, and excited-scream when watching his presentation. TeX and XML are good for creating structured stuffs (books, journal papers) where only item point/chapter/float/ref are needed, but concerning unstructured stuffs like presentation slides, it will be difficult to do that in just a few \items or \sections. But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz. I agree that in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything. Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why vim users don't use the ESC key? - It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive :
Re: [NTG-context] FiXme module
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: What is this module for? (Sorry, I'm not from Latex world.) see here: http://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/fixme/ Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] excuse me.
Wolfgang and all, excuse me, I didnt know I was doing something wrong. I thought that is ok to reply a message changing the subject. It will not happen again. Horacio Suarez _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I'll update http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style as soon as I get my other problems sorted out. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 30.04.2009 um 17:40 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole sectionworld stuff was yours, as documented in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style (see %start/stop WS; there \Titel is called \MyChapter) I still don't understand what the (additional?) problem was that you solved with that solution. Apparently we needed to tinker with the chapter counter. What part of your recent solutions wasn't possible one year before? \define[#] ? (At least I didn't know that one.) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] ConTexT minimals problem
The latest beta (Minimals) fails to compile and complains: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! and context --version gets MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua' Alan___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 30.04.2009 um 20:33 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole sectionworld stuff was yours, as documented in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style (see %start/stop WS; there \Titel is called \MyChapter) I still don't understand what the (additional?) problem was that you solved with that solution. Apparently we needed to tinker with the chapter counter. why the counter (can't remember)? What part of your recent solutions wasn't possible one year before? \define[#] ? (At least I didn't know that one.) Nothing but you where looking for method to set the author and a subtitle and sectionworld was perfect suited for this with his key-val-syntax while your own \MyChapter changed everything because I could have used a different method than I needed for sectionworld. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Update bug under Windows not fixed yet
Aaron Chen wrote: I know it is fixed under Linux. Thanks. But on Windows, it is still broken: i cannot rsync the zips from here so some patience is needed - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Update bug under Windows not fixed yet
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 21:36, Hans Hagen wrote: Aaron Chen wrote: I know it is fixed under Linux. Thanks. But on Windows, it is still broken: i cannot rsync the zips from here so some patience is needed The patch is hopefully online now (the network is incredibly slow from time to time, sorry). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTexT minimals problem
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 20:38, Bowen Alan C. wrote: The latest beta (Minimals) fails to compile and complains: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! I'm afraid the problem lies here: #!/bin/sh mtxrun --usekpse --execute texexec $@ Most probably one can get over it by changing mtxrun to texmfstart.rb again, though this will be overwritten next time when you'll try to update. (Hans was just afraid to be too bored during long Polish talks, so he had to make sure to have a few challenges left to solve during the conference :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] BNF grammar for ConTeXt (was: What happened with sectionworld?)
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:12:10 +0200
luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit:
My suggestions to start :
1) define a **simple but significative** domain ,ie this grammar is for
subset of ConTeXt language dedicated to variable-data pdf forms
yes
2) make a bnf grammar spec
yes
3) build a parser lex/yacc for 2)
later
why ? There is no difference between 2 and 3
True, but I think that the aim of such a BNF-grammar
is to help in a concise way the newbie and tell him _what_ can be
made and _when_ {\it in quel tempo}.
(In fact, I dont like lex/yacc because it seems not a good idea to
intervene on the generated code).
I think a wiki would be a better forum than this mailing-list ?
hmm
this mailing-list is ok for this kind of discussions
a wiki is wiki.contextgarden.net
and you should put your results in your personal page
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTexT minimals problem
Thanks, Mocja. I will play around with it. Alan On Apr 30, 2009, at 15;50,10 , Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 20:38, Bowen Alan C. wrote: The latest beta (Minimals) fails to compile and complains: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! I'm afraid the problem lies here: #!/bin/sh mtxrun --usekpse --execute texexec $@ Most probably one can get over it by changing mtxrun to texmfstart.rb again, though this will be overwritten next time when you'll try to update. (Hans was just afraid to be too bored during long Polish talks, so he had to make sure to have a few challenges left to solve during the conference :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTexT minimals problem
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 22:14, Bowen Alan C. wrote: Thanks, Mocja. I will play around with it. We now tried to fix texmf.cnf, so maybe that helps. (It works here, but my system might be set up in some weird way at the moment.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Stable version
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 15:50, Mohamed Bana wrote: Thank you all! When was \mainlanguage[ukenglish] added? Most probably after patterns have been generated out of hyph-utf8. Is there an alternative? Yes, en-gb. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTexT minimals problem
It still does not work for me. Alan On Apr 30, 2009, at 16;21,04 , Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 22:14, Bowen Alan C. wrote: Thanks, Mocja. I will play around with it. We now tried to fix texmf.cnf, so maybe that helps. (It works here, but my system might be set up in some weird way at the moment.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
