Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/5/14, Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com: I think in Professional typesetting, the same amount of space should be left for all full stop/comma/whaever. Not always: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_spacing Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.05.2009 um 03:51 schrieb Ryo Furue: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \d...@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official version I'd like to know. ... USA.\ ...

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ryo Furue fu...@hawaii.edu wrote: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \d...@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, I can't fix everything, but I believe I have made some progress. The new structure and referencing code is totally different from the old code and I understand less than half of it. What's worse: I seem to be really bad at explaining to Hans all the things that should happen wrt. references

Re: [NTG-context] \inmargin followed by \startlines = alignment fault?

2009-05-14 Thread Corsair
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:11:04AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Corsair wrote: Hi guys, I find that the `lines' environment (or description, itemize, etc.) after text in margin does not align right. Consider the following code: in that case you can try \margintext {...} which saves the

[NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread bbvogel
Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) The 32bit version works fine with glibc2.6. Regards, Bernard ___ If your question is of

[NTG-context] How to prevent header at page bottom

2009-05-14 Thread Jos van Gisbergen
Hi, I have defined my own header: \definehead[myhead][subsection] \setuphead[myhead][ page=no, number=no ] All works fine, except sometimes the head appears at page bottom and the text starts on the next page. How can I specify that if less than, say, 3 lines of text fit on the current page

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)

2009-05-14 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On May 14, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I can't fix everything, but I believe I have made some progress. Hi Taco, thanks a lot for looking into it! Your redefinitions make the minimal example work; I'll have to see how I can transfer them to my non- minimal files where

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica You fixed the problem with the felltype

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0

Re: [NTG-context] The ultimate (?) float problem

2009-05-14 Thread Piotr Kopszak
I think I more or less got the idea of what is possible. But let me describe my project. Maybe you might come up with a better solution. I'm going to typeset a diary written and drawn by an illustrator and graphic designer 70 years ago. What is unique, it consists of handwritten pages which were

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- -

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Maybe

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. Best

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead.

Re: [NTG-context] mplib logging

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Rolf
Peter Rolf schrieb: Hi, how do I enable (verbose) logging of mplib? I have problems with a corrupt pdf (the last paint form xobject is empty: .../Fm6 Do Q endstream endobj). No errors or warnings in the ConTeXt log (actual? beta). The same code works with mkii. No minimal example yet.

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the most recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion from cubic to quadratic splines.

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:03:10AM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name      type  emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C  

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Rounding errors are not that important in this case, and there are downsides to both (o3-o2 touches *only* control points, so in some sense it is more precise than upm change). True, you can see it that way, too. We really need Karel Píška here :-)

[NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread R. Bastian
Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ?

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:04:51AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ryo Furue fu...@hawaii.edu wrote: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Not only OOo, InDesign does that too, moreover, someone said even if LuaTeX (XeTeX too) output looked OK in Adobe reader 7, the print isn't OK. On what printer? It's probably a bug in the driver, too. LuaTeX does exactly according to specification, I discussed this strategy with Taco years

[NTG-context] OpenType Features

2009-05-14 Thread Arun Dev
Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I tried the following code but it is not working. \definefontfeature[myfontfea][+onum] \definetypeface[Libertine][rm][Xserif][Linux Libertine

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote: arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A

Re: [NTG-context] OpenType Features

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Arun Dev wrote: Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I tried the following code but it is not working. \definefontfeature[myfontfea][+onum] \definetypeface[Libertine][rm][Xserif][Linux

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)

2009-05-14 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Taco Hoekwater taco at elvenkind.com writes: The new structure and referencing code is totally different from the old code and I understand less than half of it. What's worse: I seem to be really bad at explaining to Hans all the things that should happen wrt. references in the bib module.

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need  to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. On the one hand it's a good idea to write an introduction / a tutorial for

Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. Is this intended?

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread Diego Depaoli
2009/5/14 R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need  to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. Is it

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :(

Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. Is

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For

Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent header at page bottom

2009-05-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jos van Gisbergen wrote: Hi, I have defined my own header: \definehead[myhead][subsection] \setuphead[myhead][ page=no, number=no ] All works fine, except sometimes the head appears at page bottom and the text starts on the next page. How can I specify that if less than,

Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in

Re: [NTG-context] bugs in beta (footnotes)

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 12.05.2009 um 19:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Only footnotes in section titles don't work - should they? [...] I couldn't construct a minimal failing example - any hints? No solution but here is a test file: \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread Mari Voipio
R. Bastian wrote: -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? I assume it depends on what you are planning to do with ConTeXt. I've been using ConTeXt for at least five years now, but I've never touched TeX (nor LaTeX nor any others, just ConTeXt). I've got a vague idea what it is about and that's it.

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread bbvogel
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: bbvo...@home.nl wrote: Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. If it was any other distro I would be surprised ;) Lenny is glibc 2.7, right? Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread R. Bastian
On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu scribit: On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: [...] I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). Also see

Re: [NTG-context] beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting

2009-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, just in case this slipped someone's mind :) I still get an error about an undefined control sequence (\PDFobjectreferenceB) and the footnote marker (star) is not moved with the footnote (\moveright). The attached example code (with overprinting) breaks with the

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread R. Bastian
On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:45:20 +0200 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net scribit: 2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need  to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 17:21, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals.  Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even

Re: [NTG-context] docs

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.05.2009 um 17:12 schrieb R. Bastian: Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? When you want you complete document in one language you can write \startmode[de] Was

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread bbvogel
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread bbvogel
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: bbvo...@home.nl wrote: This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. If it was any other distro I would be surprised ;) Lenny is glibc 2.7, right? Right

Re: [NTG-context] beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, just in case this slipped someone's mind :) I still get an error about an undefined control sequence (\PDFobjectreferenceB) and the footnote marker (star) is not moved with the footnote (\moveright). The attached example code (with overprinting)

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Peter, may I ask you to recompile the luatex beta binary (in src/luatex) and commit it to current/luatex-0.40.1/luatex? Of course. Compilation has just been started. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64

2009-05-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 20:43, Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Peter, may I ask you to recompile the luatex beta binary (in src/luatex) and commit it to current/luatex-0.40.1/luatex? Of course. Compilation has just been started. Thanks, Mojca

Re: [NTG-context] OpenType Features

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
You asked the same questions a few days ago, what's your problem with the answers you got last time? Wolfgang Am 14.05.2009 um 14:18 schrieb Arun Dev: Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Ryo Furue
| I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version | of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence | period). I can define | | \d...@{\spacefactor1000} | | and use it, but if there is an official version | I'd like to know. | | ... USA.\ ... Thanks, but that doesn't change the

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 14.05.2009 um 21:59 schrieb Ryo Furue: I know there is a typographic style where the inter-word and inter-sentence spacings are the same. But, by default, ConTeXt uses a larger inter-sentence spacing than the inter-word spacing. In such a case, there has to be a means to indicate an

Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: each language can has its own rules ... spacing after period or comma is one, but also think of quotes in quotations etc; and, the french have spacing before and after : ; . , (it has always been a selling point for tex to be able to deal with it) Hello

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion

2009-05-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open

[NTG-context] Font features

2009-05-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello, I also have a question about font features. Minion Pro has old style numerals. How to display them, provided that I enabled this feature? In the following test script, I get ordinary numbers, no old style. \starttypescript [serif] [MinionPro] \definefontsynonym