Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Hans van der Meer
Recently I reported the following problem:

On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:

 I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in footnotes. 
 It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the bib module 
 for some time.
 It looks like a problem has crept in with the inproceedings type.
 
 The error message:
 to be read again 
   \pbd: 
 \bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname 
 \plussix 

Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending 
citation being of type t=inproceedings was missing the title item. Then I 
observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to a missing 
\endcsname error message.

Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the code 
changed since my previous work on the project.

Hans van der Meer


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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Meer, H. van der
An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing book 
title.

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:

 Recently I reported the following problem:
 
 On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:
 
 I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in 
 footnotes. It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the 
 bib module for some time.
 It looks like a problem has crept in with the inproceedings type.
 
 The error message:
 to be read again 
  \pbd: 
 \bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname 
\plussix 
 
 Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending 
 citation being of type t=inproceedings was missing the title item. Then I 
 observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to a missing 
 \endcsname error message.
 
 Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the code 
 changed since my previous work on the project.
 
 Hans van der Meer
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Meer, H. van der
Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used to 
work but now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the booktitle in 
those cases came from a crossref = item in the bib file. Could it be the 
\crossref{} macro is not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt bib module?

In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
%D \macros{bib@crossref}
%D
%D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
%D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
%D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
%D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
%D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.

In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
\placepublications.
Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has been 
switched out of the loop?
Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:

 An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing book 
 title.
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:
 
 Recently I reported the following problem:
 
 On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:
 
 I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in 
 footnotes. It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the 
 bib module for some time.
 It looks like a problem has crept in with the inproceedings type.
 
 The error message:
 to be read again 
 \pbd: 
 \bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname 
   \plussix 
 
 Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending 
 citation being of type t=inproceedings was missing the title item. Then 
 I observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to a missing 
 \endcsname error message.
 
 Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the code 
 changed since my previous work on the project.

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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller

Hi,

I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The 
booktitle key is ignored in inproceedings entries when crossref is 
present.  See the following excerpt from cont-ab.bst:



FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


So title is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the 
only one who's having trouble with that.


I didn't know what I should expect when using crossref, so I decided 
to not mind the missing booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen 
in your example) if the actual citation style could decide whether or 
not to use booktitle aka title.


HTH,
Stefan.


[1] 
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html


On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used to work but 
now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the booktitle in those cases came 
from a crossref = item in the bib file. Could it be the \crossref{} macro is 
not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt bib module?

In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
%D \macros{bib@crossref}
%D
%D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
%D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
%D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
%D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
%D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.

In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
\placepublications.
Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has been switched 
out of the loop?
Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:


An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing book 
title.

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:


Recently I reported the following problem:

On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:


I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in footnotes. 
It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the bib module for 
some time.
It looks like a problem has crept in with theinproceedings  type.

The error message:
to be read again
 \pbd:
\bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname
   \plussix


Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending citation being of type 
t=inproceedings was missing the title item. Then I observe a call with #1 
in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to a missing \endcsname error message.

Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the code 
changed since my previous work on the project.

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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Meer, H. van der
Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess. 
The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be processed 
as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my case boils down 
to the fact that the title-entry is called without being actually present. 

With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#1 from 
the following bbl entry:

\startpublication[k=campbell:92,t=inproceedings,
a={{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=1992,
.. (no \title)
\stoppublication

and log printing in the log from the modified macro:
\def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter #1 on bibgetvart 
\expandafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}%

I find the log:
ERRORParameter campbell:92 on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92
ERRORParameter  on bibgetvart \pbd:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.

Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliography 
entry that does not exist.
This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem.

Hans van der Meer


On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan Müller wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The booktitle 
 key is ignored in inproceedings entries when crossref is present.  See 
 the following excerpt from cont-ab.bst:
 
 
 FUNCTION {inproceedings}
 { start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
 }
 
 
 So title is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the only 
 one who's having trouble with that.
 
 I didn't know what I should expect when using crossref, so I decided to not 
 mind the missing booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen in your 
 example) if the actual citation style could decide whether or not to use 
 booktitle aka title.
 
 HTH,
 Stefan.
 
 
 [1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html
 
 On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used 
 to work but now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the 
 booktitle in those cases came from a crossref = item in the bib file. 
 Could it be the \crossref{} macro is not recognized any longer by the 
 ConTeXt bib module?
 
 In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
 %D \macros{bib@crossref}
 %D
 %D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
 %D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
 %D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
 %D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
 %D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.
 
 In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
 \placepublications.
 Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has 
 been switched out of the loop?
 Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?
 
 Hans van der Meer
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 
 An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing 
 book title.
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:
 
 Recently I reported the following problem:
 
 On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:
 
 I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in 
 footnotes. It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use 
 the bib module for some time.
 It looks like a problem has crept in with theinproceedings  type.
 
 The error message:
 to be read again
 \pbd:
 \bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname
   \plussix
 
 Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the 
 offending citation being of type t=inproceedings was missing the title 
 item. Then I observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading 
 to a missing \endcsname error message.
 
 Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the 
 code changed since my previous work on the project.
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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller

Maybe one could modify


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


to


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
  format.incoll.inproc.crossref
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


in cont-*.bst? I don't know if this would cause any trouble...

Stefan

On 27.09.2011 12:35, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess.
The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be processed 
as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my case boils down 
to the fact that the title-entry is called without being actually present.

With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#1 from 
the following bbl entry:

\startpublication[k=campbell:92,t=inproceedings,
a={{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=1992,
.. (no \title)
\stoppublication

and log printing in the log from the modified macro:
\def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter#1  on bibgetvart 
\expandafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}%

I find the log:
ERROR  Parametercampbell:92  on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92
ERROR  Parameter  on bibgetvart \pbd:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.

Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliography 
entry that does not exist.
This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem.

Hans van der Meer


On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan Müller wrote:


Hi,

I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The booktitle key is ignored in 
inproceedings entries when crossref is present.  See the following excerpt from 
cont-ab.bst:


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


So title is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the only one 
who's having trouble with that.

I didn't know what I should expect when using crossref, so I decided to not mind the missing 
booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen in your example) if the actual citation style could decide 
whether or not to use booktitle aka title.

HTH,
Stefan.


[1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html

On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used to work but 
now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the booktitle in those cases came 
from a crossref = item in the bib file. Could it be the \crossref{} macro is 
not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt bib module?

In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
%D \macros{bib@crossref}
%D
%D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
%D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
%D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
%D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
%D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.

In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
\placepublications.
Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has been switched 
out of the loop?
Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:


An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing book 
title.

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:


Recently I reported the following problem:

On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:


I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in footnotes. 
It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the bib module for 
some time.
It looks like a problem has crept in with theinproceedings   type.

The error message:
to be read again
 \pbd:
\bibgetvart #1-\csname pbd:#1\endcsname
   \plussix


Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending citation being of type 
t=inproceedings was 

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Meer, H. van der
This does not help. The error is still there. I guess because this doesn't add 
the missing title. I cannot see in the FUNCTION a format.title. But somwhere 
the bibmodule calls it from the proceedings entry.

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:50, Stefan Müller wrote:

 Maybe one could modify
 
 
 FUNCTION {inproceedings}
 { start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
 }
 
 
 to
 
 
 FUNCTION {inproceedings}
 { start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
  format.incoll.inproc.crossref
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
 }
 
 
 in cont-*.bst? I don't know if this would cause any trouble...
 
 Stefan
 
 On 27.09.2011 12:35, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess.
 The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be 
 processed as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my 
 case boils down to the fact that the title-entry is called without being 
 actually present.
 
 With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#1 
 from the following bbl entry:
 
 \startpublication[k=campbell:92,t=inproceedings,
 a={{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=1992,
 .. (no \title)
 \stoppublication
 
 and log printing in the log from the modified macro:
 \def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter#1  on bibgetvart 
 \expandafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname 
 pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}%
 
 I find the log:
 ERROR  Parametercampbell:92  on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92
 ERROR  Parameter  on bibgetvart \pbd:
 ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
 
 Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliography 
 entry that does not exist.
 This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem.
 
 Hans van der Meer
 
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan Müller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The booktitle 
 key is ignored in inproceedings entries when crossref is present.  See 
 the following excerpt from cont-ab.bst:
 
 
 FUNCTION {inproceedings}
 { start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
 }
 
 
 So title is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the only 
 one who's having trouble with that.
 
 I didn't know what I should expect when using crossref, so I decided to 
 not mind the missing booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen in 
 your example) if the actual citation style could decide whether or not to 
 use booktitle aka title.
 
 HTH,
 Stefan.
 
 
 [1] 
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html
 
 On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used 
 to work but now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the 
 booktitle in those cases came from a crossref = item in the bib file. 
 Could it be the \crossref{} macro is not recognized any longer by the 
 ConTeXt bib module?
 
 In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
 %D \macros{bib@crossref}
 %D
 %D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
 %D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
 %D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
 %D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
 %D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.
 
 In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
 \placepublications.
 Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has 
 been switched out of the loop?
 Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?
 
 Hans van der Meer
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 
 An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing 
 book title.
 
 On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:
 
 Recently I reported the following problem:
 
 On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:
 
 I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in 
 footnotes. It worked without problems until 

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller

On 27.09.2011 13:33, Meer, H. van der wrote:

This does not help. The error is still there. I guess because this doesn't add 
the missing title. I cannot see in the FUNCTION a format.title. But somwhere 
the bibmodule calls it from the proceedings entry.

Hans van der Meer


In my test file the booktitle was present as \title (used by 
bibl-apa.tex) when the crossref was missing... so I guessed this 
should work...


Stefan


On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:50, Stefan Müller wrote:


Maybe one could modify


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


to


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
  format.incoll.inproc.crossref
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


in cont-*.bst? I don't know if this would cause any trouble...

Stefan

On 27.09.2011 12:35, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess.
The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be processed 
as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my case boils down 
to the fact that the title-entry is called without being actually present.

With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#1 from 
the following bbl entry:

\startpublication[k=campbell:92,t=inproceedings,
a={{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=1992,
.. (no \title)
\stoppublication

and log printing in the log from the modified macro:
\def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter#1   on bibgetvart 
\expandafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}%

I find the log:
ERROR   Parametercampbell:92   on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92
ERROR   Parameter   on bibgetvart \pbd:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.

Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliography 
entry that does not exist.
This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem.

Hans van der Meer


On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan Müller wrote:


Hi,

I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The booktitle key is ignored in 
inproceedings entries when crossref is present.  See the following excerpt from 
cont-ab.bst:


FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
  format.authors
  format.year
  format.arttitle
  crossref missing$
{ format.in.booktitle.or.series
  format.number.series
   \city address do.out
  format.pages
}
{ format.incoll.inproc.crossref
  format.pages
}
  if$
   \pubname publisher do.out
   \organization organization do.out
  stop.entry
}


So title is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the only one 
who's having trouble with that.

I didn't know what I should expect when using crossref, so I decided to not mind the missing 
booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen in your example) if the actual citation style could decide 
whether or not to use booktitle aka title.

HTH,
Stefan.


[1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html

On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:

Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used to work but 
now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the booktitle in those cases came 
from a crossref = item in the bib file. Could it be the \crossref{} macro is 
not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt bib module?

In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
%D \macros{bib@crossref}
%D
%D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
%D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
%D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
%D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
%D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.

In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not 
\placepublications.
Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has been switched 
out of the loop?
Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:


An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing book 
title.

On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:


Recently I reported the following problem:

On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:


I used the following 

Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater

On 09/27/2011 02:51 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote:

My best guess now is the description of the
FUNCTION {format.crossref}
{  \crossref crossref do.out
}
entry on the .bst file. Probably this generates the bad code leading to a 
missing \endcsname.


I do not have time to pay close attention right now, but the .bst has 
not changed in years, as far as I know.


Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller

On 27.09.2011 14:56, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

On 09/27/2011 02:51 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote:

My best guess now is the description of the
FUNCTION {format.crossref}
{  \crossref crossref do.out
}
entry on the .bst file. Probably this generates the bad code leading
to a missing \endcsname.


I do not have time to pay close attention right now, but the .bst has
not changed in years, as far as I know.

Best wishes,
Taco


Maybe the problem is already present for so long.  It occurs only if 
title of an inproceedings that has crossref set is accessed.  The 
bibl-*.tex files don't do that.


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[NTG-context] double line spacing in list (table of contents, publication list)

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller

Hi list,

how can I get double line spacing in the table of contents and in the 
publication list?  I tried \setupcombinedlist[content][after=\blank] 
but this produces to much vertical spacing.  \setupinterlinespace[big] 
doesn't influence those lists.


I'm using 201100920 00:09 MKIV standalone.

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \columnsetspan

2011-09-27 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Hello,

now that the ConTeXt meetting is over, I hope that someone looks into
this issue (note: I don't want to be rude or ironic or anything-I really
do appreciate you all helping us, poor users, on this list; but this
seems to be a bug in MkIV, so I hope it gets resolved somehow!)

Best,
Marcin

PS. As I wrote earlier, it works in MkII; in MkIV, instead of the span,
I get cs:title][none] Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer
of a new system must not only be the... in a frame, in one line (with
most of it disappearing to the right), spanning the columns.



Dnia 2011-09-20, wto o godzinie 21:27 +0200, Marcin Borkowski pisze:
 Dnia 2011-09-20, o godz. 09:13:47
 Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl napisał(a):
 
  Hello,
  
  I tried columnsets today, and the following minimal example shows that
  something is wrong with columnsetspans (which I wanted to use to make
  a title).
  
  \definecolumnset[main][n=2]
  \definecolumnsetspan[title][n=2]
  
  \starttext
  \startcolumnset[main]
  
  \startcolumnsetspan[title]
\input knuth
  \stopcolumnsetspan
  \dorecurse{10}{\input knuth}
  
  \stopcolumnset
  
  \stoptext
  
  Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?
 
 Update: it works fine in MkII, so I am afraid that it might be a bug.
 
  
  BTW: is there a better way to have a title centered on the top of the
  page and then text in columnsets?
  

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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Stefan Müller
On a related note, there's a more serious issue with this. 
\setuphead[section][style=bolditalic] used to put the heading in bold 
and italic style.  This too does not work anymore, but also 
style=\bf\it doesn't.  What can I do to get bold and italic in a 
heading back (APA style for fourth level headings)?


TIA and best regards,
Stefan.

On 20.09.2011 11:12, Stefan Müller wrote:

Hi,

In ConTeXt standalone MkIV 2011.08.04 00:42 this used to work:

\setuphead[section][style=bold]
\starttext
\section{Ward}
\input ward
\stoptext

In 2011.09.20 00:09 it doesn't anymore. If I use style=\bf I still get
bold face. Is this a bug or was the interface changed deliberately?

Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 27.09.2011 um 15:29 schrieb Stefan Müller:

 On a related note, there's a more serious issue with this. 
 \setuphead[section][style=bolditalic] used to put the heading in bold and 
 italic style.  This too does not work anymore, but also style=\bf\it 
 doesn't.  What can I do to get bold and italic in a heading back (APA style 
 for fourth level headings)?

Use “style=\bi” to set a bolditalic style for your heading.

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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2011-09-27, wto o godzinie 15:29 +0200, Stefan Müller pisze:
 On a related note, there's a more serious issue with this. 
 \setuphead[section][style=bolditalic] used to put the heading in bold 
 and italic style.  This too does not work anymore, but also 
 style=\bf\it doesn't.  What can I do to get bold and italic in a 
 heading back (APA style for fourth level headings)?

What about something like

\def\bfit{\bf\it}

style=\bfit

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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 27-9-2011 16:04, Marcin Borkowski wrote:


\def\bfit{\bf\it}

style=\bfit


that's \bi


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Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule acquired problem

2011-09-27 Thread Meer, H. van der
This problem MIGHT BE SOLVED. I cross my fingers!

I tried to analyze what happens. The following is seen when typesetting 
[campbell:92] with a crosslink to [crypto92]:

 Parameter campbell:92 on bibgetvard\pbd:campbell:92
 -- crossref crypto92 CALLED FROM \bib@crossref#1
 Parameter campbell:92 on bibgetvart\pbd:campbell:92
 -- authoretallimit 
 -- authoretaldisplay 
 -- firstnamesep 
 -- lastnamesep 
 -- firstnamesep 
 --  |  | NOTE THIS COMES FROM \bibinsertcrossref#1#2#3 
  all 3 are empty
 -- left 
 Parameter  on bibgetvard\pbd:
 -- \writestatus {ERROR}{Parameter  on bibgetvart\pbd:}\pbd: \plussix  
 
 Parameter  on bibgetvart\pbd:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.

I can see that \bibinsertcrossref gets the proper reference because the defined 
variable is: @@pb@crossref=crypto92

Experimenting on \bibinsertcrossref (inside \unprotect-\protect):
Redefine \def\bibinsertcrossref#1#2#3{\cite[crypto92]} CITE WORKS!
But redefine: \def\bibinsertcrossref#1#2#3{\cite[\@@pb@crossref]} CITE GIVES AN 
ERROR
The redefine: 
\def\bibinsertcrossref#1#2#3{\edef\tmp{\@@pb@crossref}\cite[\tmp]} CITE WORKS

Therefore I propose to change the definition of \bibinsertcrossref to:

\def\bibinsertcrossref#1#2#3{\bibdoifelse\@@pb@crossref{\edef\tmp{\@@pb@crossref}#1\cite[\tmp]#2}{#3}}

Hans van der Meer

On 27 sep. 2011, at 15:07, Stefan Müller wrote:

 On 27.09.2011 14:56, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 On 09/27/2011 02:51 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote:
 My best guess now is the description of the
 FUNCTION {format.crossref}
 {  \crossref crossref do.out
 }
 entry on the .bst file. Probably this generates the bad code leading
 to a missing \endcsname.
 
 I do not have time to pay close attention right now, but the .bst has
 not changed in years, as far as I know.
 
 Best wishes,
 Taco
 
 Maybe the problem is already present for so long.  It occurs only if title 
 of an inproceedings that has crossref set is accessed.  The bibl-*.tex 
 files don't do that.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:



Am 27.09.2011 um 15:29 schrieb Stefan Müller:


On a related note, there's a more serious issue with this. 
\setuphead[section][style=bolditalic] used to put the heading in bold and italic style.  
This too does not work anymore, but also style=\bf\it doesn't.  What can I do 
to get bold and italic in a heading back (APA style for fourth level headings)?


Use “style=\bi” to set a bolditalic style for your heading.


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[NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread luigi scarso
http://wiki.contextgarden.net
This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...

Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net
 This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
 
 Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

Especially when you can see the template with colors :)

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Re: [NTG-context] style=bold in \setuphead does not work anymore

2011-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 20.09.2011 um 11:12 schrieb Stefan Müller:

 Hi,
 
 In ConTeXt standalone MkIV 2011.08.04 00:42 this used to work:
 
 \setuphead[section][style=bold]
 \starttext
 \section{Ward}
 \input ward
 \stoptext
 
 In 2011.09.20 00:09 it doesn't anymore.  If I use style=\bf I still get 
 bold face.  Is this a bug or was the interface changed deliberately?

It’s a bug, I’ll send a patch to Hans.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Alan Braslau
*WOW*

Alan

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:22:59PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:
 
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net
  This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
  
  Nice work, thank you very much Siep.
 
 Especially when you can see the template with colors :)
 
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Re: [NTG-context] handling fonts with missing math (was: math signs in itemize)

2011-09-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 26-9-2011 08:46, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:29, R. Ermers wrote:


Snippets from log file:

! Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set.


Independent of everything else that has been said in that thread:
wouldn't it be nice to simply fall back on Latin Modern for math when
some font doesn't provide accompanying math glyphs instead of giving
up in the middle of the run? Of course that will give suboptimal
result (in particular everything inside $math$ will be in LM as
opposed to original font), but at least it won't complain about a
missing $\bullet$ and one can always use $\frac{\text{1}}{\text{2}}$
or something similar :).


there is some fall back mechanism that does that but as soon as one 
defined his/her own typescript that can interfere


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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography related questions

2011-09-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2011 12:03, Christian wrote:

- Can I get hyperlinks working with references in Context ? For example, with
Biblatex with a citation and its reference, if I select the authoryear style, 
then
I get : my citation (author year). And the reader can click on the year and be
redirected to the reference in the bibliography. The year is a hyperlink. Can
we get the same behaviour with Context ?


Unfortunately, interaction only works if one uses the default ref-style, with the shitty 
[1]. Then
this is clickable. Other alternatives like authoryear are NOT clickable.

+1 for implementing interaction for other reference styles.


up to Thomas to add that to the 'todo' list (that he manages)

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Re: [NTG-context] handling fonts with missing math (was: math signs in itemize)

2011-09-27 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:

 there is some fall back mechanism that does that but as soon as one defined
 his/her own typescript that can interfere

How should we define trypescripts to avoid interference then?

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Re: [NTG-context] handling fonts with missing math

2011-09-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 27-9-2011 19:52, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:


there is some fall back mechanism that does that but as soon as one defined
his/her own typescript that can interfere


How should we define trypescripts to avoid interference then?


A typeface definition normally has a matching monospace and math 
definition (so: ss + tt + mm or rm + tt + mm or in some cases rm + ss + 
tt + mm). Of course some relative scaling has to be considered then.


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \columnsetspan

2011-09-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 27-9-2011 15:26, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

Hello,

now that the ConTeXt meetting is over, I hope that someone looks into
this issue (note: I don't want to be rude or ironic or anything-I really
do appreciate you all helping us, poor users, on this list; but this
seems to be a bug in MkIV, so I hope it gets resolved somehow!)


fixed in next beta

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[NTG-context] upload file on wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

The upload seems to be broken:

Upload warning
The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \columnsetspan

2011-09-27 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2011-09-27, o godz. 20:05:14
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl napisał(a):

 On 27-9-2011 15:26, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
  Hello,
 
  now that the ConTeXt meetting is over, I hope that someone looks
  into this issue (note: I don't want to be rude or ironic or
  anything-I really do appreciate you all helping us, poor users, on
  this list; but this seems to be a bug in MkIV, so I hope it gets
  resolved somehow!)
 
 fixed in next beta

Wow, that was quick, thanks!

Now the remaining problem is: when and where is this beta going to be
available?  (I don't need it very soon, but am just curious-last
release notes on contextgarden are from May, I guess.)

Best,

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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net
 This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
 
 Nice work, thank you very much Siep.


Yes indeed. A great improvement ... context now looks represented like a real 
lively movement (what it is in earnest!) Thank you for your efforts Siep!

Steffen

PS: But I wonder -- what Alan said -- if this wouldn't be even more impressive, 
when you/Siep could also find appropriate images going through 
autum/winter/spring? What do other think?


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[NTG-context] errors with simpleslides (style-specific)

2011-09-27 Thread Ondřej Hošek
Greetings,

I'm using ConTeXt Standalone 2011.09.27 20:05.


\usemodule[simpleslides][style=Shaded]
\starttext
\SlideTitle{The first slide}
Hello, world.
\SlideTitle{The second slide}
Greetings, world.
\stoptext


! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 5 in file slides.ctx: Undefined
control sequence ...

1 \usemodule[simpleslides][style=Shaded]
2 \starttext
3 \SlideTitle{The first slide}
4 Hello, world.
5   \SlideTitle{The second slide}
6 Greetings, world.
7 \stoptext
8

argument \@@MPG \simpleslidescounter

\executeifdefined #1-\ifcsname #1
  \endcsname \csname #1\expandafter \expanda...
\includeMPgraphic ...\executeifdefined {\@@MPG #1}
  ;
argument ...udeMPgraphic {\simpleslidescounter }
   ; fi StopPage ;
\processMPgraphic ...ntMPgraphicformat , \!!bs #1
  ;\!!es , \!!bs \currentMPi...
\handleuseMPgraphic ...hics \processMPgraphic {#3}
  \endgroup
...
l.5 \SlideTitle{The second slide}


Changing the style to Swoosh throws a different error message
(Undefined x coordinate has been replaced by 0., apparently by
Metapost). Presentations consisting of a single slide are processed
without errors; from my cursory glance at the code, the problem lies
either with the setups or with the slide counter.

Cheers,
~~ Ondra
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Re: [NTG-context] errors with simpleslides (style-specific)

2011-09-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 09/27/2011 11:15 PM, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

Greetings,

I'm using ConTeXt Standalone 2011.09.27 20:05.


\usemodule[simpleslides][style=Shaded]
\starttext
\SlideTitle{The first slide}
Hello, world.
\SlideTitle{The second slide}
Greetings, world.
\stoptext

Thanks for reporting these problems. Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce 
them; your example compiles here both with the Shaded and with the 
Swoosh style. How did you obtain the module?


Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 22:50, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 PS: But I wonder -- what Alan said -- if this wouldn't be even more 
 impressive, when you/Siep could also find appropriate images going through 
 autum/winter/spring? What do other think?

Nothing against the idea, but in my opinion unifying the design with
meeting.contextgarden.net, group.contextgarden.net, apache listings,
live.contextgarden.net, modules.contextgarden.net etc. would have a
much higher priority than having four different color for wiki, at
least at the time being.

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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Mojca Miklavec
I'm just curious. Why didn't anyone complain about page is too wide
with the old style and wikipedia looks bad because it is s wide?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] errors with simpleslides (style-specific)

2011-09-27 Thread Ondřej Hošek
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:21, Thomas A. Schmitz
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote:
 How did you obtain the module?

sh first-setup.sh --context=beta --fonts=all --modules=all --goodies=all

Just did a clean installation using this command; the problem's still
there. I should probably mention that I only tried mkiv.

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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/9/27 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com:
 Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
browser window?

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/9/27 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de:
 Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
 browser window?

Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] new look for wiki

2011-09-27 Thread John Haltiwanger
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote:

 2011/9/27 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de:
  Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
  browser window?

 Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)


Rather simpler, and still with the same skin, is zooming with 'ctrl+'.




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   Martin

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[NTG-context] slides proceedings from ConTeXt Meeting

2011-09-27 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello everyone, in particular those who missed all the fun at the
ConTeXt Meeting in Belgium.

The slides from conference have been uploaded to the web page:
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/programme.shtml
and most of talks will also be available as articles in printed
proceedings that will be sent to all new members of the ConTeXt Group
(group.contextgarden.net).

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Re: [NTG-context] errors with simpleslides (style-specific)

2011-09-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 09/27/2011 11:40 PM, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:21, Thomas A. Schmitz
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de  wrote:

How did you obtain the module?


sh first-setup.sh --context=beta --fonts=all --modules=all --goodies=all

Just did a clean installation using this command; the problem's still
there. I should probably mention that I only tried mkiv.


Bizarre, I just checked, you must have the same version I have, and I 
just upgraded to the latest beta; everything works fine here. Can you 
send me (via private mail) the full log and/or terminal output of your 
aborted run?


Thomas
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